Polling Peakovic

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Slams+YEC+Olympics.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Peakovic >>> Peakerer >>> Peakdal

So be it

 

[Deleted member 780630]

Nope, Djokovic does not have a top 3 peak at any of the biggest events.

AO: Agassi, Safin, Federer
RG: Nadal, Borg, Lendl
WB: Federer, Sampras, Mac
USO: Federer, Sampras, Mac
YEC: Sampras, Becker, Mac
Olympics: Nadal, Agassi, Kafelnikov

 

[TheNachoMan]

AO: Agassi, Safin, Federer

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

 

[Nadal_Django]

Name me one player with higher peak than Peakovic aside maybe from PETE on grass and indoors. I'm waiting.

 

[Third Serve]

Nope, Djokovic does not have a top 3 peak at any of the biggest events.

AO: Agassi, Safin, Federer
RG: Nadal, Borg, Lendl
WB: Federer, Sampras, Mac
USO: Federer, Sampras, Mac
YEC: Sampras, Becker, Mac
Olympics: Nadal, Agassi, Kafelnikov

oh dear

 

[RS]

Slams+YEC+Olympics.

Why not tag some posters in?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Why not tag some posters in?

They can let themselves in.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Nope, Djokovic does not have a top 3 peak at any of the biggest events.

AO: Agassi, Safin, Federer
RG: Nadal, Borg, Lendl
WB: Federer, Sampras, Mac
USO: Federer, Sampras, Mac
YEC: Sampras, Becker, Mac
Olympics: Nadal, Agassi, Kafelnikov

Excellent list, except the AO one is upside down.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Peak Federer destroys any version of Novak, Australian open 2007 and Wimbledon 2006 Federer vs any “Peakovic“ and the cyborg gets dismantled and no updates or cpu changes can change that.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Peakovic >>> Peakerer >>> Peakdal

So be it

Pancho > Laver > Borg > PETE > Lendl > Fred > Noel

 

[TheNachoMan]

Peak Federer destroys any version of Novak, Australian open 2007 and Wimbledon 2006 Federer vs any “Peakovic“ and the cyborg gets dismantled and no updates or cpu changes can change that.

AO 2011 Novak vs AO 07 Fed would be interesting. Novak‘s clutch would get him over the finish line though…as it always does against Fed

 

[T007]

Name me one player with higher peak than Peakovic aside maybe from PETE on grass and indoors. I'm waiting.

Federers peak on Grass he made 7 Finals in a row winning 6 of them. He had won 40 consecutive sets with a 65 match winning streak on the surface.

Djokovic Neither on AO or Wimbledon has such stats

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

These threads get more ridiculous each time. Fed and Rafa fans know the game is up now. Accept the reality instead of living in denial. It’s better for your mental health in the long run LOL

 

[TheNachoMan]

Pancho > Laver > Borg > PETE > Lendl > Fred > Noel

Pancho played club tennis
@Lleytonstation

 

[Deleted member 780630]

Excellent list, except the AO one is upside down.

It's pretty close between the three. Agassi's game is most suited for the surface though, so I have to give it to him.

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

AO 2011 Novak vs AO 07 Fed would be interesting. Novak‘s clutch would get him over the finish line though…as it always does against Fed

I’d enjoy that match!

 

[TheNachoMan]

Anyone denying Novak who is one of the few men to have multiple 3 slam seasons is not a contender for greatest peak, then I fear they suffer from NDS (Novak derangement syndrome)

 

[Sunny014]

Faster HCs : Federer >= Sampras > Djokovic
Slower HCs : Agassi >= Safin >= Federer
Grass : Federer > Sampras > Mac
Clay : Nadal > Borg > Kuerten

For Djokovic Plexicushion is faster HC and USO is slower, for Sampras USO was faster HC while AO was slower, for Federer USO was faster in his peak and Rebound ace was slower ?

 

[GabeT]

With so many real matches why the constant emphasis in TTW on hypothetical ones?

given that TTW posters have shown, over and over and over again, that they lack the ability to predict real life matches that are happening right before their very eyes (see the match thread on the RG Nadalovic SF right after it was 5-0 in the first set) why would anyone think they can predict time travel tennis?

so many questions, so little time

 

[ForehandCross]

From what I have seen, absolute peak is something useless. You can argue that Wawrinka hit higher clay peak than what Djokovic ever hope to hit. Or Soderling hit higher levels than Federer ever did.

Peak level is pretty much fanboys copium.

But as for the thread from players I have seen , he definitely deserves top 3 on HC and Grass.

 

[ForehandRF]

AO 2011 Novak vs AO 07 Fed would be interesting. Novak‘s clutch would get him over the finish line though…as it always does against Fed

Djokovic in 5 I think

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Yes, I do.

 

[Biotic]

Anyone denying Novak who is one of the few men to have multiple 3 slam seasons is not a contender for greatest peak, then I fear they suffer from NDS (Novak derangement syndrome)

I think we should let OP have some fun in these demanding times.

 

[megamind]

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

Denying that Novak is not the King of AO is insane

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

I honestly can’t wait to see Novak lose at Wimbledon in a few weeks this place will be absolute comedy!

 

[BlueB]

Peakovic >>> Peakerer >>> Peakdal

So be it

You've got the spelling wrong...
It's Peakovic, Peakerer and Pickdal.
I would still pick the Pickdal for peak FO, though.

 

[TheAssassin]

My stunning senses tell me this is another thread for resident saltmeisters to pat each other on the back after last week's events.

The fact that their time consuming comparisons and other actions won't change the reality is too bad.

Djokovic, on the other hand, as evidenced by both his words and actions, is not too bad.

 

[Sunny014]

This is how Peak Federer looks ..... See the speed of serving ... .See the power in the forehand

No chance for Djokovic against this demon

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

These threads get more ridiculous each time. Fed and Rafa fans know the game is up now. Accept the reality instead of living in denial. It’s better for your mental health in the long run LOL

You just want everyone to be happily lapping up falsehoods you like to believe, after all.

 

[ForehandRF]

This is how Peak Federer looks ..... See the speed of serving ... .See the power in the forehand

No chance for Djokovic against this demon

This final is not a good example as he could have easily lost sets to Djokovic here.2008 or 2009 USO matches would have been a better example

 

[Kralingen]

I don’t know how to make a serious comparison when the surfaces from 20 years ago are different than today’s surfaces - as “peak level” looks far different on a fast carpet than on a 2010s AO.

 

[TheNachoMan]

My stunning senses tell me this is another thread for resident saltmeisters to pat each other on the back after last week's events.

The fact that their time consuming comparisons and other actions won't change the reality is too bad.

Djokovic, on the other hand, as evidenced by both his words and actions, is not too bad.

I can’t help but agree with that assessment, Sergio.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

You just want everyone to be happily lapping up falsehoods you like to believe, after all.

Novaks numbers speak for themselves. Just needs to add the finishing touches to his tennis CV and it will be undisputed soon.

What falsehoods you referring to? Please enlighten us? As far as most of us see, Novak has the least gaps in his resume out of the big 3.

 

[Sunny014]

This final is not a good example.He could have easily lost sets to Djokovic here.2008 or 2009 USO matches would have been a better example

Ya I just brought in 2007 since wanted to show how it looked in 07 and that was still in his peak.
Even in 08 and 09 it was deadly vs Djokovic and he was actually playing well in those years too.

The Fed of those days was a different beast ......

 

[Poisoned Slice]

My stunning senses tell me this is another thread for resident saltmeisters to pat each other on the back after last week's events.

The fact that their time consuming comparisons and other actions won't change the reality is too bad.

Djokovic, on the other hand, as evidenced by both his words and actions, is not too bad.

Would you take him at United?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Novaks numbers speak for themselves. Just needs to add the finishing touches to his tennis CV and it will be undisputed soon.

What falsehoods you referring to? Please enlighten us? As far as most of us see, Novak has the least gaps in his resume out of the big 3.

That he is actually the bestest da game has evah seen etck. (in a properly constructed comparative framework)

 

[Sunny014]

Federer's shots at his peak had so much zing and power, his hand movements were so fast, he moved better on court, he had lot more stamina too...... @TheNachoMan would not want his hero of 2011 to face such a beast

 

[TheAssassin]

I can’t help but agree with that assessment, Sergio.

Thank you Nacho. For that I will not injure your shoulder.

Would you take him at United?

Him and Ronnie. Dare to dream and be21eve.

 

[TheNachoMan]

That he is actually the bestest da game has evah seen etck. (in a properly constructed comparative framework)

it’s likely the wider public opinion will accept that should he continue playing the way he is. No amount of copium will save you

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

I don’t know how to make a serious comparison when the surfaces from 20 years ago are different than today’s surfaces - as “peak level” looks far different on a fast carpet than on a 2010s AO.

The less you give to the opponent (whether direct misses or opportunities to attack), the better you are playing - hasn't it always been like that? It seems obvious a hypothetical perfect level would entail blasting balls on the line / angle all match long without errors.

 

[SonicNirvana]

These threads get more ridiculous each time. Fed and Rafa fans know the game is up now. Accept the reality instead of living in denial. It’s better for your mental health in the long run LOL

I mean we've all known their games for a long time..shouldn't be suprising that the GS records are getting close.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Federer's shots at his peak had so much zing and power, his hand movements were so fast, he moved better on court, he had lot more stamina too...... @TheNachoMan would not want his hero of 2011 to face such a beast

It’s hard to speculate on who would win between Peak Novak and Peak Fed, but I doubt the mental fragility would be much different.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

it’s likely the wider public opinion will accept that should he continue playing the way he is. No amount of copium will save you

Do you not care whether said opinion correctly reflects whatever the real truth is (out there somewhere)? Are you not interested in even trying to approximate it somehow by conducting some manner of analysis?

 

[Tiki-Taka]

He just happened to win every significant tournament multiple times at the opportune moment, many past winners were clearly better than him because reasons.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I mean we've all known their games for a long time..shouldn't be suprising that the GS records are getting close.

Exactly at moment the race is very even. They all in contention still but some refuse to admit Djokovic has arrived already and big favourite to win the debate out right now.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Highest Peak Per Surface:

AO: 1995 Agassi
RG: 2008 Nadal
WB: 1993 Sampras
USO: 1995 Sampras
YEC: Becker or Sampras its a toss up
Olympics:Agassi

Yea Djoker isn't on there

 

[40-15 still haunts me]

Novaks numbers speak for themselves. Just needs to add the finishing touches to his tennis CV and it will be undisputed soon.

What falsehoods you referring to? Please enlighten us? As far as most of us see, Novak has the least gaps in his resume out of the big 3.

Novak is still behind at Wimbledon and US Open. Novaks Wimbledon record is also heavily inflated considering the only competition he has had is Federer who was way past his best in every final they have met yet still pushed “Peak” Djokovic to his limits in 2 matches ( further proving Federer in his old age is still as good as Novak is at his apparent best)
His Wimbledon record is also Inflated due to Murray handily humiliating him at every grass match they have ever played including olympics and Wimbledon final. Fed has more WTF, more consecutive weeks at No1 , more slam finals in a row. The list is endless

 

[TheNachoMan]

Do you not care whether said opinion correctly reflects whatever the real truth is (out there somewhere)? Are you not interested in even trying to approximate it somehow by conducting some manner of analysis?

I believe it is already the real truth, he has the most varied resume out of the 3 and has won everything there is to win at least twice. If he becomes GOAT to the public then it’s deserved.

 

[swordtennis]