Poly gauge and tension loss?

babar

Professional
So, what I understand is. . .
  1. a thinner poly (18g about 1.20mm or thinner) will probably feel a bit harsher/stiffer than a thicker gauge (17g about 1.23mm and thicker)
  2. and the thinner gauge will lose tension faster than a thicker gauge
Is that the consensus here?
Any differing opinions?
 
Yes, I believe that is the consensus.

Thinner strings have less material to hold that tension and will become permanently stretched and altered quicker.

Thicker strings will absorb a greater amount of energy from the ball on impact and thus feel less harsh.

I could be completely wrong though. I don't have any proof, it is just how I believe the physics would work out.

Edit: apparently I might be wrong about the stiffness feeling, so I'mma assume I'm wrong until I can get a chance to figure it out
 
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babar

Professional
I'm contemplating a switch to a 98 head, 18x20 pattern. Haven't played with with an 18x20 for a long time and I was much younger then and could swing faster to produce spin.
Now, as I get older, I'm debating about using a thinner gauge string to help with spin, but don't want to have anything harsh on the arm.

Any suggestions for a good 18g soft poly for an new18x20 Head Prestige MP?
 

blai212

Professional
So, what I understand is. . .
  1. a thinner poly (18g about 1.20mm or thinner) will probably feel a bit harsher/stiffer than a thicker gauge (17g about 1.23mm and thicker)
  2. and the thinner gauge will lose tension faster than a thicker gauge
Is that the consensus here?
Any differing opinions?
Incorrect. Thinner gauge will have more elasticity while thicker string will have less, making thicker strings feel stiffer. Thinner strings need to be strung 2-3 lbs tighter to produce similar reference tension as a thicker string. Thinner string will lose tension faster because of this increased elasticity while the stiffness of thicker gauge will provide better tension maintenance. Using a thinner gauge will produce the feel of a more open string pattern while thicker gauge will produce the feel of a denser string pattern. Open string pattern will produce more power + spin, more of a springy string bed at the cost of control and durability. Denser string pattern will produce a more boardy feel contributing to increased directional control at the cost of decreased power+spin. I would recommend finding the right balance of power/spin/control. You don’t want to be using open pattern (pure aero) with thin strings because strings will snap in a heartbeat but you also don’t want dense 18x20 with thick strings because no power or spin.
 

Crazy Finn

Professional
I won't wade into the harsher/softer part of thinner stings. However, in general....

- Thinner strings lose tension faster
- Open string patterns lose tension faster than denser ones

or conversely

- Thicker strings hold tension better
- Denser string patterns (like 18x20) tend to hold tension better than more open patterns

That's in general. There are a lot of variables involved (type of string, tension, racquets, etc).
 
I'm contemplating a switch to a 98 head, 18x20 pattern. Haven't played with with an 18x20 for a long time and I was much younger then and could swing faster to produce spin.
Now, as I get older, I'm debating about using a thinner gauge string to help with spin, but don't want to have anything harsh on the arm.

Any suggestions for a good 18g soft poly for an new18x20 Head Prestige MP?
Red devil 18g is a soft poly that lasts ok.
Don't be put off by the price!
It's very cheap
 

babar

Professional
Thx for the advice everyone.
I tried a VCORE Pro HD tonight with a full bed of Hyper G Soft 18g and it felt great.
Nice pocketing, better spin than I was expecting and feel/control was outstanding.
That sweetspot on the Yonex is huge compared to the Prestige MP.
Both felt solid and powerful, but spin was much better with the Yonex.
Hate the grip shape though on the Yonex. Head grip felt much better.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
Random question but how is the tension maintenance of hyper g 1.20? I am debating getting a reel of this or 1.25, but am edging more towards the 1.20 for more spin and comfort. About how long do these strings last?
 

babar

Professional
Random question but how is the tension maintenance of hyper g 1.20? I am debating getting a reel of this or 1.25, but am edging more towards the 1.20 for more spin and comfort. About how long do these strings last?
I've only played it for one 2.5 hr outing so far. Felt pretty good.
Didn't feel mushy at all strung at 47 lbs in a 18x20 Yonex VCORE Pro HD.
 

blai212

Professional
Random question but how is the tension maintenance of hyper g 1.20? I am debating getting a reel of this or 1.25, but am edging more towards the 1.20 for more spin and comfort. About how long do these strings last?
depends if you value comfort/power/spin or durability...i have buddies that break HG 1.20 in dense 16x19 (8 mains throat) pure strike in about 5-7 hrs
 
I string a yonex vcore pro 97 hd with 18g poly at 46/44lbs, this seems to be the best tension.
I have tried 18g string on larger head size rackets or with open string patterns and it's rubbish, but on 97" or less or dence patterns it works very well.
 
Random question but how is the tension maintenance of hyper g 1.20? I am debating getting a reel of this or 1.25, but am edging more towards the 1.20 for more spin and comfort. About how long do these strings last?
By 12 hours 1.20 should be pretty gone. I thought it was pretty decent during that time though. Comfort does drop off pretty good around there so you might want to go with 1.20 if comfort is more a priority for you.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
The comfort of HG18 gets low in 12-15 hours for me, but HG Soft 18 stays comfortable till it breaks in about 20 hours for me. I don’t think that others can give advice on how long a string will last before it breaks as it depends on the player, the swing type, the racquet, the weather conditions etc. Others can advise on how long a string feels comfortable and how long the tension will last before it feels erratic. You just have to try and see how it goes.
 
I'm contemplating a switch to a 98 head, 18x20 pattern. Haven't played with with an 18x20 for a long time and I was much younger then and could swing faster to produce spin.
Now, as I get older, I'm debating about using a thinner gauge string to help with spin, but don't want to have anything harsh on the arm.

Any suggestions for a good 18g soft poly for an new18x20 Head Prestige MP?
1. Just confirming you understand why you had this one wrong. A gauge or two thinner can be significantly softer than its thicker version.

I also have been playing with a prestige mp 18x20 with TB Soft 18g around 45 lbs. I can confirm tension maintenance is a little bit better than when using this in a 16x19. Not quite as comfy but the weight of the racket seems to be taking some of the shock out as well so it sort of equals out.

YPTP 18 could be something to look at too.
 

socallefty

Hall of Fame
@socallefty just played a match with tier one black knight 17/ghostwire 17 today which felt sublime...if you ever feel like experimenting...either could make for a great cross...BK playability duration is quite good and it is softer than HGS, good work @TierOneSportsOfficial
Thanks. Others have highly recommended TierOne strings also. Unfortunately my stringer doesn’t carry them. I might buy some strings and try it just for fun.
 
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