Poly hybrid: Tourna Black Zone vs Wilson Revolve as cross for T1 Firewire mains

Hoping to get you string-o-philes input in deciding on a hybrid setup. I have come to love Tier One Firewire 1.25, and use it as the mains in a hybrid setup. Have strung up an Ai98 as well as a Pure Storm Tour GT with Firewire mains @ 54, and Tourna Black Zone 17 (1.20) cross @ 52. Really like the feel of this setup - its soft/comfortable, spin friendly, low-medium powered. Bonus perk of not being harsh on my tennis elbow.

Have been researching for other cross string options on TW, and Revolve looks like a pretty sweet option too. Revolve is 1.25 in the thinnest gauge, and per TW data, the stiffness is right about the same, but spin potential is much greater (7.7 vs 6). Also, the written review has a longer playability duration for Revolve compared to Black Zone.

Anyone have experience with Revolve hybrided as a cross with a shaped poly main, or have thoughts about whether switching to Revolve would increase performance/durability/etc. If it matters, I have a variety of 16x19 and 18x20 racquets that I would like to try that setup in.

Thanks, folks!
 
Hoping to get you string-o-philes input in deciding on a hybrid setup. I have come to love Tier One Firewire 1.25, and use it as the mains in a hybrid setup. Have strung up an Ai98 as well as a Pure Storm Tour GT with Firewire mains @ 54, and Tourna Black Zone 17 (1.20) cross @ 52. Really like the feel of this setup - its soft/comfortable, spin friendly, low-medium powered. Bonus perk of not being harsh on my tennis elbow.

Have been researching for other cross string options on TW, and Revolve looks like a pretty sweet option too. Revolve is 1.25 in the thinnest gauge, and per TW data, the stiffness is right about the same, but spin potential is much greater (7.7 vs 6). Also, the written review has a longer playability duration for Revolve compared to Black Zone.

Anyone have experience with Revolve hybrided as a cross with a shaped poly main, or have thoughts about whether switching to Revolve would increase performance/durability/etc. If it matters, I have a variety of 16x19 and 18x20 racquets that I would like to try that setup in.

Thanks, folks!
I am also testing poly hybrids (as well as gut/poly hybrids).

Till now I have played Kirschbaum PL II, Signum Pro Hyperion and Wilson Revolve as crosses with a shaped main (T1 Firewire and Dyreex Black Edge Whirl are my favorites).
Hyperion as cross wasn't successful, stringbed got too erratic. But I really liked Revolve and Kirschbaum PL II: they both gave a softer and nice feel to the mains. Also I found it provided longer playability duration.
I cannot compare to Black Zone, depending on your comments it could also be an option. Yonex Poly Tour maybe another one.

My racquet is a Pure Drive.
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
Numbers are a guide, you really have to do the comparison yourself to know for sure. All I can add, is ...from my experience I have found the tension maintenance on the Black zone to be better and the string more comfortable..

Again the values below are just a reference...link is there for you to mess around with..

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/comparestrings.php
Wilson Revolve 17 (1.25) / Tourna Black Zone 17 / Difference %

Stiffness (lb/in) 192/187/-3
Tension Loss (%) 36/31/-14
Energy Return (%) 87/88/1
Spin Potential 7.7/6.0/-22
String to String Friction (COF) 0.066/0.08/21
String to Ball Friction (COF) 0.507/0.477/-6
 

sp1derman

Semi-Pro
I liked them bith. If you restring often. Go with the black zone. I found them to be very similar in terms of playability and resistance to notching. Black zone is just cheaper. I still love the youtek square x as a cross for my shaped mains. Doesn't notch and holds tension great.
 

esgee48

Legend
Revolve is a factory pre-stretched poly, which implies that 1) less static tension loss, 2) better tension maintenance. You should also try pre-stretching (vigoriously) Prince Tournament poly (1st gen and really cheap) because it also hold tension really well as well as being smooth. It was Shroud's go to poly until he started doing his crosses at 80-86#. Now, he's an All Kevlar type of guy. :p
 

sp1derman

Semi-Pro
Revolve is a factory pre-stretched poly, which implies that 1) less static tension loss, 2) better tension maintenance. You should also try pre-stretching (vigoriously) Prince Tournament poly (1st gen and really cheap) because it also hold tension really well as well as being smooth. It was Shroud's go to poly until he started doing his crosses at 80-86#. Now, he's an All Kevlar type of guy. :p
I didn't realize Revolve was factory pre-stretched. It is a decent value as well...
 

esgee48

Legend
I prefer Spinox in lieu of Revolve unless you don't like the gold/yellow of Spinox. The surprise is the tension maintenance of the Prince 1st gen poly when that was pre-stretched by Master Shroud.
 

Muppet

Legend
I strung Black Zone 1.20 crosses with Big Hitter Silver 1.21 mains. It's a great match. BHS is similar to Firewire. I'd try BZ with the FW.
 

Obieseven

New User
TierOne is now selling FireWire packaged with a round poly for hybrid use. I tried it at 50lb mains and crosses in a PS100LS but it was too stiff and hurt my arm a little. Maybe should have went lower tension in crosses. So back to what I've been using all year, FireWire 125 mains and crosses, 50lb one-piece. You have to swing big to get pace but it's easy to leave the ball short, which is good for me playing 3.5 doubles on Har-tru.


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After a few months test with gut/poly and a 1st test of Solinco Hyper-G, back now to poly/poly hybrids.
Has anybody crossed firewire with MSV Co-Focus, Yonex PTP or Kirschbaum PL II ?

Here are the crosses I would like to playtest:
  • Co-Focus
  • YPTP
  • Revolve
  • Kirschbaum PL II
Looking forward to your feedbacks and playing again!
 
My favorite cross with Firewire is Tier One's Strike Force RIP. Stringing RIP 6# less the mains, the combination IMHO produces the most spin, especially on slices, than any other cross I've tried so far. If your play is heavy spin with big targets or you are a slice/spin player, you might really like this combo. If you are small target, thread the needle type, you might be disappointed at times, but increase in rpm can be addictive.
 
Blackbear is coming out with a round poly next year that also might be worth looking into as well. I fell head over heels for it when I playtested it this fall.
 

dr. godmode

Semi-Pro
I have played Revolve as a cross in my SV95 16x20 with GS Snakebite and it was great. Super consistent and definitely decreased notching. I have also tried Lynx and Polytour Fire. Lynx was just average across the board, maybe a tiny bit more feel when fresh compared to Revolve, but it didn't last. Fire was great (big power and feel) for about 2 hours before the coating wore off. BTW I string at 51/48lbs. Lately I have been really digging my full bed of Polytour Pro 125. Spin on the average shot is a little less, but I can generate pretty similar level of spin if I need to. Ball pocketing is also far beyond what I'm used to so I could really rip the ball. Will try as a cross soon.
 

Spoon

New User
@LocNetMonster: Do you mean Firewire 18g + Strike Force Rip 16g as you suggested in some other threads (by the way, did you also try FW 18g + SFR 17g?)? Could you please explain, why you now prefer a 6lbs difference between mains and crosses?
 
@LocNetMonster: Do you mean Firewire 18g + Strike Force Rip 16g as you suggested in some other threads (by the way, did you also try FW 18g + SFR 17g?)? Could you please explain, why you now prefer a 6lbs difference between mains and crosses?
I like the feel on volleys and serves with a 6# differential in a Pure Control with these two strings. Ground strokes have a higher net clearance and sharp drop after the peak. Feels/appears to be more spin on the ball at that differential. Past 6 the string bed gets squirrely and I never could seem to get a consistent response with the same stroke. And yes, I like SFR 17g and 18g FW, too.
 

Spoon

New User
Thanks! I'll try it soon. I'll also try FW + Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution. KB PLE seems to be a very good cross string as well!

Last year, I used FW 18g + Prince XT Tour. A very nice, very "thin" feeling. Before that, I hated playing with old balls. With this combo, it was much better.
On the other side, with fresh balls, control and defensive stability were not optimal in my Pure Aero, that's why I'm searching for a new cross string.
FW + Square-X could be an other option.
 
Thanks! I'll try it soon. I'll also try FW + Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution. KB PLE seems to be a very good cross string as well!

Last year, I used FW 18g + Prince XT Tour. A very nice, very "thin" feeling. Before that, I hated playing with old balls. With this combo, it was much better.
Before moving to RIP as a cross, I plaed with FW 18g with Prince XC 16g and a the same time started experimenting with modifying my racquets. Loved it. ProLine makes a good cross, too. Any string slippery, slick sting, coated or not, pretty much makes an worthy cross for FW. I think RIP maintains its slipperiness longer than all other comers.
 
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