ryushen21
Legend
Unless you are producing Pro level racquet head speed. Then no. There is no way that you are bending those strings strung that tight.
As a side note, I recommend that everyone here read J011yroger's guide to strings....
Poly String life- enough is enough
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Unless you are producing Pro level racquet head speed. Then no. There is no way that you are bending those strings strung that tight.
As a side note, I recommend that everyone here read J011yroger's guide to strings....
tlm
G.O.A.T.
You have enough nerve to say i want to argue over nothing. Ya right once i post the exact instructions from the blog being discussed now you try to spin things. It is sad that you have to turn things around because you are proven wrong. Talk about weird it is weird when i show the blogs quote but yet you still can argue it.
I did say that at the beginning of the article it stated that 52lbs. should never be exceeded, so there is more of your bs. Now more spin from you- quote while he wants you to try in the 30's or 40's you can max out at 52lbs. I listed the exact instructions that say 30's-40's, it does not say try, it says set your machine in the upper 30's-40's. These are the instructions plain+simple i know you want to avoid them but they are plain as day for everyone to see.
You are the one that came out saying i did not follow the instructions correctly+did not understand this or that. But i listed the instructions that where given which i followed to the tee. But i am lost when it comes to this technique, kinda obvious who is lost here.
You are the one that likes to keep arguing even when proven wrong, i am just stating the facts. Something that you obviously are avoiding, but go ahead+spin things so it makes you feel better.
Power Player
Bionic Poster
You are obviously a little kid or something. So Ill just put you on ignore. I am having trouble understanding what you wrote since you don't really believe in commas or proper syntax either.
Just to summarize.
tlm has been stringing at 52#s, the maximum range you should string poly according to the blog.
tlm states that 52#s is great for him.
tlm says that blog is full of crap because he can't handle tension under 45#s.
It is pointed out to tlm that he has been stringing still within range of the blog's specs (once again, 52#s is the max), and he is happy, so the blog is correct.
tlm instead argues that you have to string between 30-40s even though the blog clearly lists 52#s as the max.
power player realizes tlm is a lost cause and puts him on perm ignore, so to never have to suffer his mind numbing posts again.
Hopefully that brings us up to speed and we can move on from this poor guy's struggle.
Just to summarize.
tlm has been stringing at 52#s, the maximum range you should string poly according to the blog.
tlm states that 52#s is great for him.
tlm says that blog is full of crap because he can't handle tension under 45#s.
It is pointed out to tlm that he has been stringing still within range of the blog's specs (once again, 52#s is the max), and he is happy, so the blog is correct.
tlm instead argues that you have to string between 30-40s even though the blog clearly lists 52#s as the max.
power player realizes tlm is a lost cause and puts him on perm ignore, so to never have to suffer his mind numbing posts again.
Hopefully that brings us up to speed and we can move on from this poor guy's struggle.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
You are obviously a little kid or maybe a big kid that will never grow up.
Just to summarize.
Power players lies about what the instructions clearly lists.
Power player continually changes 30-40's to 52.
Can not admit that the range is 30-40's even with the exact instructions shown.
Tim realizes that power player is a lost cause that can not face the truth.
Power player has to put Tlm on ignore because power play ignores the facts.
Hopefully that brings us up to speed on this poor kids struggles.
Just to summarize.
Power players lies about what the instructions clearly lists.
Power player continually changes 30-40's to 52.
Can not admit that the range is 30-40's even with the exact instructions shown.
Tim realizes that power player is a lost cause that can not face the truth.
Power player has to put Tlm on ignore because power play ignores the facts.
Hopefully that brings us up to speed on this poor kids struggles.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
To get back to the real topic of low tension poly. There is some good information in the blog being discussed, i have read other informative articles from guts+glory. I like the part about not pulling to fast or over stretching the string. However i did not understand why they want you to hold the pull for 5 seconds + then clamp the string off. First they say to not let the weight down fast because this will pull the spring out of the poly but then they tell you to wait to clamp. I know this method is used for nat. gut + multis that have a lot of stretch to them, but it seems odd for poly.
I also do agree that many players do string poly to tight. But i think the article should point out that this tension range is not going to always work with every poly string on every racket. I have been trying many different string set ups in my donnay white.
I was able to use poly star strike at 48 lbs. in this racket+ it played pretty well. But when i tried the weiss cannon turbo twist it did not work until i raised it to 52lbs. This is an example of what i mean, i don't believe that these low tensions can be used successfully in every racket with every poly.
But i think anyone wondering should give it a try, start real low+keep going up until you find the right tension for your racket+string. You will probably have to waste some string jobs, but you may find a lower tension that works well.
I do agree that the lower you can go the easier it will be on your arm+the poly should last longer. But again a lot depends on your racket, strings+your playing style. I have tried many many strings in many different rackets.
There where posts in the past suggesting really low tensions. I have tried this with a lot of different strings, because i have had arm problems in the past so i like to string as arm friendly as possible.
But at really low tensions like say the 30's you can get to a point where you have control but the string bed is not consistent playing. There is a point if you go low enough you wont have hardly any power. Plus the racket just plays strange, it seems like there is a certain level of stiffness that is needed.
But i hope more people here give it a try, that is the only way to find out for sure. I just don't think that you can use the exact guide lines on a 90sq. inch head + a lower power poly compared to a 100 plus sq. inch head + a thinner higher powered poly.
I also do agree that many players do string poly to tight. But i think the article should point out that this tension range is not going to always work with every poly string on every racket. I have been trying many different string set ups in my donnay white.
I was able to use poly star strike at 48 lbs. in this racket+ it played pretty well. But when i tried the weiss cannon turbo twist it did not work until i raised it to 52lbs. This is an example of what i mean, i don't believe that these low tensions can be used successfully in every racket with every poly.
But i think anyone wondering should give it a try, start real low+keep going up until you find the right tension for your racket+string. You will probably have to waste some string jobs, but you may find a lower tension that works well.
I do agree that the lower you can go the easier it will be on your arm+the poly should last longer. But again a lot depends on your racket, strings+your playing style. I have tried many many strings in many different rackets.
There where posts in the past suggesting really low tensions. I have tried this with a lot of different strings, because i have had arm problems in the past so i like to string as arm friendly as possible.
But at really low tensions like say the 30's you can get to a point where you have control but the string bed is not consistent playing. There is a point if you go low enough you wont have hardly any power. Plus the racket just plays strange, it seems like there is a certain level of stiffness that is needed.
But i hope more people here give it a try, that is the only way to find out for sure. I just don't think that you can use the exact guide lines on a 90sq. inch head + a lower power poly compared to a 100 plus sq. inch head + a thinner higher powered poly.
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PowerPlay...this tIm fellow might be disabled in some way. The blog clearly states 52 pounds as the upper limit but tIm lacks the reading comprehension skills to see that. There are forms of brain damage that can prevent people from recognizing relatives, familiar places, or the obvious. Or maybe he's OCD and can't integrate the broader concepts described in the text with the step by step instructions.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
You are a really funny guy. I clearly said that in the article at the beginning it stated that 52lbs. should never be exceeded. But you say i cant integrate the broader concepts described in the text with the step by step instructions.
I guess when following step by step instructions you should really not follow them exactly like they say. Right genius you should follow them in the broader concepts described in the text. This would be like your car tires saying inflate 30-35 lbs. but instead you would put in 42lbs. What the hell that is close enough, or your manual says your engine takes 4 quarts of oil, ah don't follow that put in 5 quarts.
Okay so it is obvious that you are not capable of following instructions correctly. There are forms of brain damage that can cause people to not follow instructions as described.
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Power Player
Bionic Poster
It's a lost cause. He just likes to argue.
I am going to string some Solinco Tourbite at 48#s tonight..we shall see how it goes. I would love to get a couple of weeks out of this string.
I am going to string some Solinco Tourbite at 48#s tonight..we shall see how it goes. I would love to get a couple of weeks out of this string.
GlenK
Professional
I thought it stated that 52lbs was the highest you could string it without some loss of playability and durablity. BUT, they are recommending tensions in the 30s-40s range as the most efficient for both areas.
In a sense everyone is right about what it said, but the semantics were interpreted differently. I tried the 40s and volleys were not good at all.
Doing fine with mid to low 50s. If having crisp controlled volleys cost me a couple hours durability then so be it. I'm fine with that.
In a sense everyone is right about what it said, but the semantics were interpreted differently. I tried the 40s and volleys were not good at all.
Doing fine with mid to low 50s. If having crisp controlled volleys cost me a couple hours durability then so be it. I'm fine with that.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
Exactly right they mention 52lbs. as the highest tension poly should ever be strung at in the beginning of the article, but in the stringing instructions it states to set machine from high 30's-40's.
I have used tensions in the 40's with good results with some rackets + some strings. But i think they are wrong trying to say these low tensions will work all the time. As you mentioned you may have to go up to mid 50's to get the playability that you need.
tlm
G.O.A.T.
Okay then the stringing directions should say high 30's-52 then, instead they say high 30's-40's.
BigT
Professional
Yes, good suggestion. J011yroger's thread has some good info in it. LOTS of reading but well worth it.
I think it's because we always want something better, and we don't always make objective decisions.
I actually moved to an 18x20 pattern with my last racquet change to get longer string life. I'm still mainly using Kirschbaum poly strings which I found to last a fairly long time. I use either Competition or Spiky Shark. I get roughly 20 hours out of a set of strings now and play them until they break usually. The last hour or so can be a little odd, and depending on conditions I may not play the last hour or two on a set during a match, but usually I do.
Using syn gut or multis I get anywhere from about 3-6 hours. Even though I like some of them quite a bit, I just can't stand stringing so often and buying all that string.
Ok so I'm tempted to give a poly a shot according to this blog:
http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/the-definitive-guide-to-stringing-polys-and-co-polys/
If I were to string the poly mains at say 40, what tension would I put the syngut crosses at? It isn't good to have too high of a tension dispersion between mains and crosses, and syngut definitely needs much more tension than that...
http://ggtennis.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/the-definitive-guide-to-stringing-polys-and-co-polys/
If I were to string the poly mains at say 40, what tension would I put the syngut crosses at? It isn't good to have too high of a tension dispersion between mains and crosses, and syngut definitely needs much more tension than that...
