Poly String Tension Questions

[tennisnewbie229]

Hi everyone. I have a couple of questions about poly strings that I hope people can answer.

1. I was considering stringing my Pure Aero on low-tension with a poly, at like 45lbs to begin. I usually string at 58lbs but wanted to give low-tension a try because of the added power and also because of arm pain. We all know that polys lose their tension very fast to the point where they are "unplayable" as some members claim. If that's the case, wouldn't the tension loss eventually equate to a low-tension string after playing? Because I have to pay to get my racquet strung, I have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.

2. Does stringing a poly at low tension cause the ball to propel off the racquet? I am trying to replicate this "feeling" of the ball rocketing off my racquet when I hit. Maybe that is considered the "trampoline effect" that some refer to. I have only noticed this feeling when I was using a Head Liquidmetal 4 strung with Luxilon Savage Black. However I don't know the tension because I didn't ask the person that strung it and I am no longer in contact with him. In my quest to replicate this effect, I was considering it is either due to the string tension, racquet balance, or the string itself.

So far, I have moved to head-light racquets but the Liquidmetal was a head-heavy racquet and a high powered racquet so I was thinking the trampoline effect was due to that balance and not the string or string tension. Prior to stringing with the Luxilon Savage, I don't recall my hits having the effect so I was considering it was the Luxilon Savage but I just don't know the tension. I am trying to help my fiance, who is now using a Wilson ProStaff 97LS, try to reproduce this trampoline-type effect. The balls actually don't sail long as some have experienced.

3. When stringing polys on low-tension, do you lose tension faster, slower, or equal to if you were to string at high-tension?

4. This is not a string question but for racquets, if they were made head-light, can I add lead tape and change it to head heavy without issues to the overall frame? Or does that cause damage to the racquet in the long run?

Thank you in advance. If my wording is confusing, I'll be more than happy to clarify.

 

[2nd Serve Ace]

have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.


This is already the best that you could hope tennis strings could offer.

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[Mark-Touch]

tennisnewbie229 said:


have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.


This is already the best that you could hope tennis strings could offer.

Really?
Then how do you explain some of my rackets that have strings that haven't been changed for over a decade?
Or decades in the case of my wood racket?
And that play just fine, thank you very much.

 

[2nd Serve Ace]

Really?
Then how do you explain some of my rackets that have strings that haven't been changed for over a decade?
Or decades in the case of my wood racket?
And that play just fine, thank you very much.

You must be in some ultra low-humidity environment, probably.

 

[Muppet]

Hi everyone. I have a couple of questions about poly strings that I hope people can answer.

1. I was considering stringing my Pure Aero on low-tension with a poly, at like 45lbs to begin. I usually string at 58lbs but wanted to give low-tension a try because of the added power and also because of arm pain. We all know that polys lose their tension very fast to the point where they are "unplayable" as some members claim. If that's the case, wouldn't the tension loss eventually equate to a low-tension string after playing? Because I have to pay to get my racquet strung, I have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.

Usually people can recognize a big difference in the playability of a fresh set of poly strings.

 

[SavvyStringer]

Hi everyone. I have a couple of questions about poly strings that I hope people can answer.

1. I was considering stringing my Pure Aero on low-tension with a poly, at like 45lbs to begin. I usually string at 58lbs but wanted to give low-tension a try because of the added power and also because of arm pain. We all know that polys lose their tension very fast to the point where they are "unplayable" as some members claim. If that's the case, wouldn't the tension loss eventually equate to a low-tension string after playing? Because I have to pay to get my racquet strung, I have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.

2. Does stringing a poly at low tension cause the ball to propel off the racquet? I am trying to replicate this "feeling" of the ball rocketing off my racquet when I hit. Maybe that is considered the "trampoline effect" that some refer to. I have only noticed this feeling when I was using a Head Liquidmetal 4 strung with Luxilon Savage Black. However I don't know the tension because I didn't ask the person that strung it and I am no longer in contact with him. In my quest to replicate this effect, I was considering it is either due to the string tension, racquet balance, or the string itself.

So far, I have moved to head-light racquets but the Liquidmetal was a head-heavy racquet and a high powered racquet so I was thinking the trampoline effect was due to that balance and not the string or string tension. Prior to stringing with the Luxilon Savage, I don't recall my hits having the effect so I was considering it was the Luxilon Savage but I just don't know the tension. I am trying to help my fiance, who is now using a Wilson ProStaff 97LS, try to reproduce this trampoline-type effect. The balls actually don't sail long as some have experienced.

3. When stringing polys on low-tension, do you lose tension faster, slower, or equal to if you were to string at high-tension?

4. This is not a string question but for racquets, if they were made head-light, can I add lead tape and change it to head heavy without issues to the overall frame? Or does that cause damage to the racquet in the long run?

Thank you in advance. If my wording is confusing, I'll be more than happy to clarify.

PureAero at 45 is a good tension, I've had plenty of players go that low. With the amount of spin that racket imparts it should be fine and you should get more of the trampoline you're looking for. I don't know the science but IMO poly tension loss is poly tension loss. It's typically a percentage of total tension not a set poundage. Because of that, in theory less tension would mean less tension loss in reference to the initial tension. Lastly, feel free to add weight to the head of the racket. It won't cause structural issues but if you're strokes aren't good enough for the mass it may cause more arm issues.

 

[SavvyStringer]

Really?
Then how do you explain some of my rackets that have strings that haven't been changed for over a decade?
Or decades in the case of my wood racket?
And that play just fine, thank you very much.

At some point, even poly quit losing tension. It's as far as they'll stretch without breakage. I don't know where that point is, but clearly you can look at a racket strung 5, 10, 20, 30 years ago and know that it has lost tension but at some point it stopped because the strings didn't just disappear or let go.

 

[esgee48]

Strings can only lose tension thru permanent plastic deformation. Elastic deformation is also a form of tension loss, but is 100% recovered if the string does not exceed the plastic defomation's modulus. Ball impacts are a combination of both. At low tensions, it takes more energy or higher RHS to deform the plastic permanently. So starting at a lower ref tension helps in tension maintenance somewhat. Does not apply to NG since that is not a plastic.

 

[blai212]

jus go for a well made copoly that they prestrech during the manufacturing process like yonex or tecnifibre...volkl cyclone tour also has great playability duration...dunlop black widow is a nice soft copoly that is shaped. Shaped strings tend to have higher launch angle whereas round strings hit lower cuz ball slips off the strings while the shaped ones bite into the ball and grab it. Heard great things about isospeed cream but havent gotten the chance to try it yet, heard its soft and great tension maintenance. Jus have to figure out the main attributes you’re looking for in a string and find the appropriate one to complement your game.


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[LocNetMonster]

1. I was considering stringing my Pure Aero on low-tension with a poly, at like 45lbs to begin. I usually string at 58lbs but wanted to give low-tension a try because of the added power and also because of arm pain. ..., I have not changed out my Volkl Cyclones for the past 2 months and to me, they work fine.

How many hours a week are you playing? Did you develop the arm pain while playing with the PA or did you have some discomfort before hand?

 

[tennisnewbie229]

Oh wow. I didn't know that this thread was still going. Thank you all for your feedback.

@LocNetMonster I play usually play on the weekend, 2 hours each day. But if the weather is nice during the weekday, I play about 1.5-2 hours during the weekday, ranging from 2-4 of the weekdays when the weather is nice. I'm currently thinking of making my PA more headlight so it'll be more maneuverable and maybe it'll help some issues. The pain is not too bad but I know I will have consequences in the long run.