Poly with long lasting playability

BillKid

Professional
I’m in search of a poly that would keep a decent feel after more than 10h (or more). And that would still be as soft and arm friendly as possible. What do you suggest?
I was thinking Isospeed cream, did some of you tried it full bed?
 

BillKid

Professional
Polys lose 50% of their tension after 10 hours of use, so playability won't last long even if the string doesn't break.
Yes
That’s why I was meaning longer playability (rather than durability)
The problem is that softer ones tend to lose their tension and their feel even faster
I think I will order Hyper G or Hyper G soft and Isospeed cream to demo
Recently I was disappointed by Tourna Black zone: plays OK at the beginning but feel gets significantly worse after just a few hours
 
Signum Pro Xperience, Solinco Confidential and Hyper G and Head Lynx Tour are all long lasting strings for me.

Hyper G soft holds tension well for a softer string - not quite as well as regular Hyper G but better than a lot of stiffer strings.
 

BillKid

Professional
Signum Pro Xperience, Solinco Confidential and Hyper G and Head Lynx Tour are all long lasting strings for me.

Hyper G soft holds tension well for a softer string - not quite as well as regular Hyper G but better than a lot of stiffer strings.
From what I read regular Hyper G is also in the « relatively comfortable poly » category
Since it will hold tension better than soft HyperG, I will probably buy one or two sets to make my opinion
I did not like the feel of Head lynx but I did not demo it on my racquet so I’m not sure about this one.
 
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tennisbike

Professional
Off Topic alert:
Remember that there is really only one universal law in the strings, when under tension, higher tensioned string WILL creep or stretched out more and more permanently. This is true regardless of string make. Thus the only conclusion can be drawn is, use lower tension to minimize the creeping. Another solution is pre-stretching. The simplest way to do that is to do long-pull, holding the string at tension for 20 sec. before clamping. Or one more route is to make the main and cross work more equally by increasing the cross tension. Yes, that will increase the string bed stiffness, but then you can reduce the tension.
My point is instead of chasing the next magical string (what) there are other ways to approach the same problem, such as using different way to string(how).
 

socallefty

Legend
I second HyperG Soft. It is more comfortable and doesn’t go dead as quickly as most other polys including HyperG. I notice the discomfort from poly going dead even before it loses enough tension to affect control too much.
 
From what I read regular Hyper G is also in the « relatively comfortable poly » category
Since it will hold tension better than soft HyperG, I will probably buy one or two sets to make my opinion
I did not like the feel of Head lynx but I did not demo it on my racquet so I’m not sure about this one.
Hyper G soft is more comfortable than Head Lynx Tour and actually it was one of the only polys I could comfortably hit with in a full bed when I had a tennis elbow flare up last year. I play slightly better with Confidential than I do with Hyper G regular or soft but frankly I would be happy playing with any of these strings.

Hyper G soft plays a lot like normal Hyper G - I didn’t notice a huge difference in playability or feel but my arm pain was reduced with the soft while I had tennis elbow. Now that my arm is back to normal, the only poly where I can feel the stiffness on my arm is Confidential if I’ve played 2-3 days in a row.
 
Anyone tried to prestretch hyper G soft on electric stringing machine? If yes, how does it affect it? Will it delay moving in a hybrid set up?
 

Yamin

Professional
G soft goes dead in like 6 hours. Go thinner gauge hyper g. If you have an 18x20 18 gauge is great. Revolve was decent was well.
 

BillKid

Professional
I have ordered 2 sets of HyperG soft 1.25
Will see how it compares with Volkl cyclone Tour, which is my favorite soft poly until now
Next step after demoing this one may be to test regular HyperG
I think the difference between VCT and regular Cyclone is significant with regards to feel and comfort, don’t know how it is for HyperG and HyperG soft
I will share my thoughts about these strings, I know I’m not the sole guy being careful about is old arm
 

Louis33

Semi-Pro
I’m in search of a poly that would keep a decent feel after more than 10h (or more). And that would still be as soft and arm friendly as possible. What do you suggest?
I was thinking Isospeed cream, did some of you tried it full bed?
If you are able to find the correct reference tension VCT will work well for what you are looking for. The first hour of playing there will be a large tension drop with VCT but after it plays consistently and easy on the arm. Keep in mind I only play it in the mains with a different poly cross that has above average tension maintenance so it might not play as consistent in a full bed.
 

antony

Professional
4G Soft has only dropped 9 lbs to 50lbs for me in about a month of playing. It is a prestretched string so it does not lose much tension at all.
 
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
Poly and long lasting playability don’t go together. But the poly strings that last longer than most would be 4G, BBO and Tier 1 Black Knight.
 

mark b.

Rookie
Don't take our word for it. Go to Tennis Warhouse and look at the string reviews. Then look at "Playability Duration".
I think the clear winner here is Solinco Confidential at 88/100. Like others have said, give it a good pre-stretch and you'll
be happy for a good long time.
To me, Confidential is underpowered, so I use Solinco Revolution at 86/100 but a whole lot more powerful and comfortable than Confidential.
 

antony

Professional
Don't take our word for it. Go to Tennis Warhouse and look at the string reviews. Then look at "Playability Duration".
I think the clear winner here is Solinco Confidential at 88/100. Like others have said, give it a good pre-stretch and you'll
be happy for a good long time.
To me, Confidential is underpowered, so I use Solinco Revolution at 86/100 but a whole lot more powerful and comfortable than Confidential.
I really liked Solinco Hyper G when it was in good tension. Then I hated it after it lost tension (down to ~45 lbs). I will have to retry it prestretched. thanks
 

BillKid

Professional
Don't take our word for it. Go to Tennis Warhouse and look at the string reviews. Then look at "Playability Duration".
I think the clear winner here is Solinco Confidential at 88/100. Like others have said, give it a good pre-stretch and you'll
be happy for a good long time.
To me, Confidential is underpowered, so I use Solinco Revolution at 86/100 but a whole lot more powerful and comfortable than Confidential.
Thanks for your suggestion
I overlooked the Solinco Revolution but it seems to be a great compromise
The Confidential is probably stiffer than what I’m looking for
I’m still with Tourna Black zone but then I will try HyperG soft that I just received
Next I will give a shot to Solinco Revolution
 
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BillKid

Professional
According to TW string database, HyperG soft should hold tension as well as Revolution. However in TW review, HyperG soft does not perform well in playability duration, contrary to Revolution.
Did some of you compare these two strings in real life. I ordered some HyperG soft but have not tried it yet. Wondering if Revolution would be more interesting in my quest for a « softer » poly with superior playability duration (I admit it’s hard to conciliate both).
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
According to TW string database, HyperG soft should hold tension as well as Revolution. However in TW review, HyperG soft does not perform well in playability duration, contrary to Revolution.
Did some of you compare these two strings in real life. I ordered some HyperG soft but have not tried it yet. Wondering if Revolution would be more interesting in my quest for a « softer » poly with superior playability duration (I admit it’s hard to conciliate both).
I've played a lot with Hyper-G, Hyper-G Soft, and Revolution. Hyper-G Soft is much closer to Revolution, but Revolution still has more crispness than HGS. Revolution does lose its shape fairly quickly, and notches also. Longevity to breakage of either of the Hyper-G variants is probably 25% more than I got from Revolution.

I haven't played Revolution and HGS back to back, but if I had to guess I'd say Revolution might be just a hair more comfortable and have a hair more pop and liveliness. Which offsets its reduced playability duration.
 

Louis33

Semi-Pro
From my experience a stiff poly with good tension maintenance has the longest playability. The most important thing to increase comfort with these stiff polys is to string at a lower reference tension. The longest lasting poly I have played full bed is Head lynx tour and the longest lasting poly cross string I have played is Kirschbaum Max Power. VCT is the best longest lasting poly I have played that is soft, but due to the high initial tension drop it needs to be strung at a much higher reference tension than the other polys I mentioned for it to keep its playability.
 

socallefty

Legend
HyperG Soft lasts much longer than HyperG, Cyclone Tour, Tour Bite, ALU Power, RPM Blast etc. for me. The rest go dead much faster and cause discomfort to my elbow/wrist even before tension loss and lack of control is an issue.
 

antony

Professional
HyperG Soft lasts much longer than HyperG, Cyclone Tour, Tour Bite, ALU Power, RPM Blast etc. for me. The rest go dead much faster and cause discomfort to my elbow/wrist even before tension loss and lack of control is an issue.
I could see that as 4G Soft lasts noticeably longer than 4G in my experience
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
HyperG Soft lasts much longer than HyperG, Cyclone Tour, Tour Bite, ALU Power, RPM Blast etc. for me. The rest go dead much faster and cause discomfort to my elbow/wrist even before tension loss and lack of control is an issue.
that’s strange, i thought since HG stiffer than HGS that HG would last longer/tension maintenance would be better…
 

socallefty

Legend
that’s strange, i thought since HG stiffer than HGS that HG would last longer/tension maintenance would be better…
What I’m saying is that the stiffer strings go dead (lose resilience) and cause discomfort faster than softer strings. For me, this happens before the tension loss becomes a problem. Poly going dead due to resilience being lost beyond a certain threshold where all the comfort is gone is a different phenomenon from tension loss which also happens fast when you keep playing with poly. Some players with young arms/elbows note the tension loss and lack of control before they feel the poly going dead while older players like me feel the lost comfort before the tension loss becomes an issue.

While string specs don‘t indicate how soon a poly goes dead and you feel it, it is typically correlated to stiffness - stiff strings get uncomfortable faster especially at higher tensions.
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
i thought stiff strings stay playable longer…aka ‘prestretched’ like 4G and most kirschbaum strings. If you set the tension appropriately low, it should last and feel good for a long time…
 

Injured Again

Hall of Fame
that’s strange, i thought since HG stiffer than HGS that HG would last longer/tension maintenance would be better…
I participated in the Hyper-G Soft test and I found, via RacquetTune, that Hyper-G and Hyper-G Soft lost tension at almost exactly the same rate - close enough to be within the range of error and frankly below the vast majority of people's ability to distinguish.
 

crash

Rookie
I feel Head lynx tour and T1 Black knight have above average durability and maintain their playability fairly well. I break strings within 2-4 hours though so my experience may not apply if you’re getting 10-20 hours out of a string job.
 

blai212

Hall of Fame
What I’m saying is that the stiffer strings go dead (lose resilience) and cause discomfort faster than softer strings. For me, this happens before the tension loss becomes a problem. Poly going dead due to resilience being lost beyond a certain threshold where all the comfort is gone is a different phenomenon from tension loss which also happens fast when you keep playing with poly. Some players with young arms/elbows note the tension loss and lack of control before they feel the poly going dead while older players like me feel the lost comfort before the tension loss becomes an issue.

While string specs don‘t indicate how soon a poly goes dead and you feel it, it is typically correlated to stiffness - stiff strings get uncomfortable faster especially at higher tensions.
IME strings that are too soft become mushy and trampoline like way quicker resulting in zero feel
 

3virgul14

Rookie
I let the statistics speak, strung my Head 293.1 ( 360g strung, 365 SW) 5 months ago with TBHS7T 1.25
@ 22kgs and apart from the 10s of hours doubles play, hitting sessions, serving sessions, played 19 ladder tournament matches with it.

18W - 1 L

I don't think I will break it, still going strong.








This TBHS7T was strung on 21st of January and i have played over 30+ hours atm. Over 15 matches and many hitting sessions.

Still has good tension, very good pocketing and spin. Not a single notching on it.
 

KingBugsy

Rookie
Same here… just ordered a reel
Same here … Solinco Confidential maintains tension really well. Will drop a few lbs in the first 2 to 5 hrs … then level off for a while. Excellent string. Hyper G also holds tension well for me. Haven’t tried the soft version.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Same here … Solinco Confidential maintains tension really well. Will drop a few lbs in the first 2 to 5 hrs … then level off for a while. Excellent string. Hyper G also holds tension well for me. Haven’t tried the soft version.
are you talking about the 1.30 gauge?
 

LOBALOT

Hall of Fame
I participated in the Hyper-G Soft test and I found, via RacquetTune, that Hyper-G and Hyper-G Soft lost tension at almost exactly the same rate - close enough to be within the range of error and frankly below the vast majority of people's ability to distinguish.
Right Hyper G loses tension like crazy. I do not agree with reports of long playability in this thread. It also loses its sharp edges quickly further causing lack of control.

I am not saying it is a bad string but I would not use it thinking it is going to be playable for a long period which was the question posed in this thread.

I just strung up 4 racquets at 53 on Friday prior to a big tournament for my son. They were confirmed with RacquetTune coming off my Alpha Ghost 2 at 53 lbs.

He used 3 of them while one sat in his bag. He broke one set. The other 3 racquets are all between 40 and 41.3 lbs. The unused stick with Hyper G dropped to 41.3 sitting in the bag after 5 days.

I think 4G holds tension better as posters have noted as it is pre-stretched. However, as it is pre-stretched it also plays much firmer/dead thus the trade off.
 

KingBugsy

Rookie
are you talking about the 1.30 gauge?
No, I use the 1.20 gauge… after experimenting with tension, I have been lowering it and now string at 45 lbs. I play 4 x per week. Mostly singles… central FL. Humid conditions. Tension drops 8 to 10 percent after a couple of sessions and then levels off. Racket will still be at 40 lbs during week 2. About 16 hrs. Will drop after that. Still playable. But not as well. I will usually string again within 4 weeks. (4.5 level play. ) Aside from the tension drop, the strings lose their elasticity after while. Slowly … they just don’t feel as good. As mentioned, still playable but just doesn’t feel as good.
 

Louis33

Semi-Pro
What I’m saying is that the stiffer strings go dead (lose resilience) and cause discomfort faster than softer strings. For me, this happens before the tension loss becomes a problem. Poly going dead due to resilience being lost beyond a certain threshold where all the comfort is gone is a different phenomenon from tension loss which also happens fast when you keep playing with poly. Some players with young arms/elbows note the tension loss and lack of control before they feel the poly going dead while older players like me feel the lost comfort before the tension loss becomes an issue.

While string specs don‘t indicate how soon a poly goes dead and you feel it, it is typically correlated to stiffness - stiff strings get uncomfortable faster especially at higher tensions.
String them lower
 
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