Poor Shapo, got destroyed once more, LOL!

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Does anybody want more proof that Shapovalov will never win a GS??


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Vesely did just beat the GOAT so maybe we can cut Shapo some slack.

Although I was super disappointed in his choke vs Rafa, but Medwed did it too.
 
Novichok said:
Does anybody want more proof that Shapo will never win a GS??

The ball basher got what He deserved. Vesely put him in his place tonight!!!

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Vesely played well - Shapo underwhelmed. Nothing new it seems always a matter of time. In his own words to his coaches during the match "I don't know what to do!"
 
TheNachoMan said:
They both have a one handed backhand. That’s pretty much it. Shapo doesn’t even come close to the variety and tennis IQ Federer has.
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I didn't say those guys were as good. Just that the style/profile is similar.

They aren't grinders or counterpunchers or servebots, is what I'm trying to say. Athletic, creative players who can dance around the court and come up with dazzling displays of shotmaking.
 
Rosstour said:
I didn't say those guys were as good. Just that the style/profile is similar.

They aren't grinders or counterpunchers or servebots, is what I'm trying to say. Athletic, creative players who can dance around the court and come up with dazzling displays of shotmaking.
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Dim's problem is that he couldn't decide whether he wanted to be a grinder or not. I never saw enough of the attacking game from him, and he was very mentally weak when he did go for it and miss, reverting to a more defensive style almost immediately.
 
Kralingen said:
Dim's problem is that he couldn't decide whether he wanted to be a grinder or not. I never saw enough of the attacking game from him, and he was very mentally weak when he did go for it and miss, reverting to a more defensive style almost immediately.
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That's just him getting tight and tentative. Not actually trying to be a grinder. He loses confidence in his offense way too quickly and starts "playing not to lose"...as you say, almost immediately.
 
Pmasterfunk said:
I blame Roger Rasheed for his transition to the grind mentality
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His athletic ability was built for a defensive playstyle - his ability to hit on the stretch and really turn defense to offense on display in some of his best matches. But to carry a phrase from TTW his game always seemed to be borrowed from another player and never his own. I think he needed to commit to being “baby fed” totally but instead he tried to be baby Novak.
 
Rosstour said:
I didn't say those guys were as good. Just that the style/profile is similar.

They aren't grinders or counterpunchers or servebots, is what I'm trying to say. Athletic, creative players who can dance around the court and come up with dazzling displays of shotmaking.
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Are they servebot junkballers:unsure:
 
If this is what you consider "destroyed",
could you please tell me what you would consider a
"close match" ???????????????
 
I actually don't think he will ever bounce back if he goes into an extended slump. He puts too much pressure on himself.
 
Not only Shapo but his countryman Felix got killed too. Whazup with those Canadians? They are upside down way too much. Could that be the Cannabis at work?
 
Novichok said:
Does anybody want more proof that Shapo will never win a GS?? :-D


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The way he has played post AO has been very disappointing. At AO when he beat Zverev and almost completed a marvelous comeback against Nadal, I was sure he was going to be a serious threat at slams this year. His chances at Wimbledon especially looked very promising.
Hope he can return to his best soon.
 
Nadal - GOAT said:
The way he has played post AO has been very disappointing. At AO when he beat Zverev and almost completed a marvelous comeback against Nadal, I was sure he was going to be a serious threat at slams this year. His chances at Wimbledon especially looked very promising.
Hope he can return to his best soon.
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The choke against Heatstrokedal, you mean? (Carefully orchestrated by the comedian in the chair)
 
junior74 said:
The choke against Heatstrokedal, you mean? Carefully orchestrated by the comedic talent of C. Bernardes?
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To be fair, Rafa played very well in the 1st and 2nd set. In the 5th, Shapovalov played just 1 really bad service game. After Rafa went a break up in the 5th, it was his serve that saw him through. Shapovalov tried till the end and seemed very disappointed with the loss. I thought he would learn from the loss and build on it, but he has just spiraled downwards.
 
Nadal - GOAT said:
To be fair, Rafa played very well in the 1st and 2nd set. In the 5th, Shapovalov played just 1 really bad service game. After Rafa went a break up in the 5th, it was his serve that saw him through. Shapovalov tried till the end and seemed very disappointed with the loss. I thought he would learn from the loss and build on it, but he has just spiraled downwards.
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Shapo doesn't have what it takes, he shrinks when the going gets tough. Can't even beat a 50% version of Rafa.
 
Honestly, I stopped expecting anything from Denis after last fall. Nothing has changed under Delgado, and I don't believe it will. Denis plays the same way all the time. He has improved a lot in terms of getting more serves into play, and definitely he's better at net. But, other than that, I see little improvement. What concerns me about Denis is his lacklustre attitude. He showed absolutely no interest or determination in last night's match. He was spraying errors all over the place, as if he didn't even care about the match's outcome. This is in direct contrast to players who are succeeding like Medvedev, Rublev, Hurkacz and others. While I don't think they have any more raw talent than Denis, they know how to fight for the win. Their mental toughness takes them a long way.

I don't see Denis doing anything more than he's done for the last three years. At 22, he has one small 250 title, and if he doesn't improve soon, that's all he'll ever win. The promise I saw in him years ago just hasn't panned out. I said then, I wanted to give him 2-3 years to develop and improve. Well, those years have passed, and he's almost no different - too many errors, too many double faults, a poor mental attitude and lack of fight in his matches.

The grass season is not that far off. I doubt very much he can repeat his success of last year, which will mean he'll lost tons of points and fall further down the rankings. If that happens, there are too many good young players who can stay in the top rankings. That will be devastating to a young guy who seemed to have a lot of promise.

I hope I'm wrong.
 
prairiegirl said:
Honestly, I stopped expecting anything from Denis after last fall. Nothing has changed under Delgado, and I don't believe it will. Denis plays the same way all the time. He has improved a lot in terms of getting more serves into play, and definitely he's better at net. But, other than that, I see little improvement. What concerns me about Denis is his lacklustre attitude. He showed absolutely no interest or determination in last night's match. He was spraying errors all over the place, as if he didn't even care about the match's outcome. This is in direct contrast to players who are succeeding like Medvedev, Rublev, Hurkacz and others. While I don't think they have any more raw talent than Denis, they know how to fight for the win. Their mental toughness takes them a long way.

I don't see Denis doing anything more than he's done for the last three years. At 22, he has one small 250 title, and if he doesn't improve soon, that's all he'll ever win. The promise I saw in him years ago just hasn't panned out. I said then, I wanted to give him 2-3 years to develop and improve. Well, those years have passed, and he's almost no different - too many errors, too many double faults, a poor mental attitude and lack of fight in his matches.

The grass season is not that far off. I doubt very much he can repeat his success of last year, which will mean he'll lost tons of points and fall further down the rankings. If that happens, there are too many good young players who can stay in the top rankings. That will be devastating to a young guy who seemed to have a lot of promise.

I hope I'm wrong.
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The issue isn't his fighting, it's his high-risk game.

You can just blast everything hoping most go in. That's not how you win big titles these days.
 
Yes, I agree with that, but I think mental attitude goes along with it. He has to learn to change strategies when something isn't working. He has done so, in a match where he began serving and volleying with great success. But, mentally, you have to be tough and smart to know when to do this.
 
Shapo's misery is such, that I think that it's not classy to attack him anymore.
We should leave him alone until he gets stronger. Poor guy.
 
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