Post-AO ranking

Mustard

Bionic Poster
At the end of 2006.

2006 Year-End Top 10:

1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Nikolay Davydenko
4. James Blake
5. Ivan Ljubicic
6. Andy Roddick
7. Tommy Robredo
8. David Nalbandian
9. Mario Ancic
10. Fernando Gonzalez

That one doesn't look as strong, but they were the 10 best players at the time.
 

Cyan

Hall of Fame
2006 Year-End Top 10:

1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Nikolay Davydenko
4. James Blake
5. Ivan Ljubicic
6. Andy Roddick
7. Tommy Robredo
8. David Nalbandian
9. Mario Ancic
10. Fernando Gonzalez

That one doesn't look as strong, but they were the 10 best players at the time.

It is really weak :shock:
 

malakas

Banned
Code:
                           Total  Final    Win
1       Federer     720   10,070  10,550  11,350
2       Djokovic    360    8,310
3       Nadal       360    7,670
4       Murray      720    7,320  7,800   8,600
5       Del Potro   180    6,400
6       Davydenko   360    5,290
7       Roddick     360    4,150
8       Soderling    10    3,375
9       Tsonga      720    3,235  3,715   4,515
10      Cilic       720    2,970  3,450   4,250
11      Gonzalez F  180    2,870
11      Verdasco    180    2,760

Thanks to Judio @ MTF or the update.


thanx shadows and Judio mtf!! I updated it accordingly.
 

malakas

Banned
so as we can see a lot will depend on murray-cilic tonight.
Murray loses:Nadal no.3-Murray no.4
Murray wins and gets to the final:Nadal to no.4
Murray wins and wins the final:Nadal to no.4,Nole to no.3 and Murray to no.2

So I better see you all cheering!!!!:p
 

sdont

Legend
I've made some computations. Fed should remain #1 at least until the clay court season begins, whatever happens.

He needs only 300 points until then to be 100% sure. Even if he suffers a freak injury in his next match, Novak, Murray, or Delpo could only get to the top spot by playing nonstop and being unbeaten for the remainder of the HC season.
 

malakas

Banned
Updated the first post!
Nadal now is DEFINITELY no.4.

Hopefully this will saves us a couple of new threads asking about the new rankings.:rolleyes:
 

GasquetGOAT

Hall of Fame
2006 Year-End Top 10:

1. Roger Federer
2. Rafael Nadal
3. Nikolay Davydenko
4. James Blake
5. Ivan Ljubicic
6. Andy Roddick
7. Tommy Robredo
8. David Nalbandian
9. Mario Ancic
10. Fernando Gonzalez

That one doesn't look as strong, but they were the 10 best players at the time.

Other than Robredo the rest is still a strong group. Blake and Ljubicic were at their primes.
 

Lotto

Professional
This is a summary of the post-AO ranking in short:

No.1:Fed IS no1.

No.2:Only Djokovic and Murray can be no.2
Djoker will be the new no.2 UNLESS: Murray wins AO.

No.3: Only Murray and Nole can be no.3
For Murray to be no.3 he has to get to the final
For Djoker to be no.3-Murray has to win it all

No.4: Nadal IS no.4

no.5: DP IS no.5


no.6: Davy IS no.6

No.7:Roddick and Tsonga can be no.7
Rod will be no.7 UNLESS Tsonga wins AO

PHP:
                            Total  Final    Win
1       Federer     720   10,070  10,550  11,350
2       Djokovic    360    8,310
3       Murray      720    7,800  7,800   8,600
4       Nadal       360    7,670
5       Del Potro   180    6,400
6       Davydenko   360    5,290
7       Roddick     360    4,150
8       Soderling    10    3,375
9       Tsonga      720    3,235  3,715   4,515
10      Cilic       720    2,970  
11      Gonzalez F  180    2,870
11      Verdasco    180    2,760


Would love to see Roger win it just so he can consolidate the No.1 ranking and break Pete's record no. of weeks!
 

shadows

Legend
Djokovic is guaranteed #2 for at least one week even if Murray wins the AO when Murray's Rotterdam points drop (Nole can't pick any up but Andy isn't defending them). Murray is playing a 250 in Marseille the following week and can pick up the full 250 if he was to win and thus take back the #2.
 

malakas

Banned
And he has to defend at IW in a little over a month. What does the spring have in store for Nadal i wonder.

from the 7.670 poitns he has now,he defends about 4000 of them from now to the start of RG.So the spring is crucial for his ranking.
News say that he's out for a month.If he doesnt play IW,and Davy plays,he can easily surpass him.Davy for the following months has almost nothing.
 

scineram

Professional
Djokovic is guaranteed #2 for at least one week even if Murray wins the AO when Murray's Rotterdam points drop (Nole can't pick any up but Andy isn't defending them). Murray is playing a 250 in Marseille the following week and can pick up the full 250 if he was to win and thus take back the #2.

Good catch!
 

Starfury

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is guaranteed #2 for at least one week even if Murray wins the AO when Murray's Rotterdam points drop (Nole can't pick any up but Andy isn't defending them). Murray is playing a 250 in Marseille the following week and can pick up the full 250 if he was to win and thus take back the #2.
I knew Djokovic couldn't escape forever, no matter how hard he tried :D
 

Mustard

Bionic Poster
Djokovic will finally get to world number 2, then? That must soften the blow of losing to Tsonga.
 

Ledigs

Legend
True but Nadal doesn't have any points after RG really. So he can work his way back up, but it will be during his worst part of the season. Hopefully he comes back sooner rather than later and it's not related to his tendonitis
 

edmondsm

Legend
from the 7.670 poitns he has now,he defends about 4000 of them from now to the start of RG.So the spring is crucial for his ranking.
News say that he's out for a month.If he doesnt play IW,and Davy plays,he can easily surpass him.Davy for the following months has almost nothing.

Wow, you're right. I forgot Davy didn't even play the Spring hardcourts last year.
 

malakas

Banned
True but Nadal doesn't have any points after RG really. So he can work his way back up, but it will be during his worst part of the season. Hopefully he comes back sooner rather than later and it's not related to his tendonitis

RG and Wimby is NOT his worst part of the season..so yeah he will have the opportunity to get many points there..but if in the meanwhile he's at no.6 or 7 there's a good chance his draws won't be as easy as others' years...and the most important is to be HEALTHY!let's be healthy get back on tour,and the rest will come.
 

Agassifan

Hall of Fame
So is it safe to assume Roger HAS sealed his 286 weeks already.. without having to win the final? How many points does he has to defend before the 286 week mark is reached?
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
So is it safe to assume Roger HAS sealed his 286 weeks already.. without having to win the final? How many points does he has to defend before the 286 week mark is reached?

I'll look that up for you. Its not safe to say I think, because Madrid and RG are in there too.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Roland Garros 2.000
Madrid 1.000
Indian Wells 360
Miami 360
Monte Carlo 90
Total 3.810

Thats not that much after the AO really. I mean, hes not going to lose much until the 3000 of Madrid and Roland Garros. I think if Roger wins here, its pretty much a certainty, but if he doesnt.. who knows.

If someone is interested. i could open a new thread, with an ATP Race starting at the week after RG last year, and ending the same week this year.
 

edmondsm

Legend
Roland Garros 2.000
Madrid 1.000
Indian Wells 360
Miami 360
Monte Carlo 90
Total 3.810

Thats not that much after the AO really. I mean, hes not going to lose much until the 3000 of Madrid and Roland Garros. I think if Roger wins here, its pretty much a certainty, but if he doesnt.. who knows.

If someone is interested. i could open a new thread, with an ATP Race starting at the week after RG last year, and ending the same week this year.

You mean the rankings? They don't have ATP Race points anymore I don't think.

For Roger to lose the #1 before Wimbledon some pretty huge changes would have to occur pretty quickly. Some major injury to Fed (knock on wood) or a sudden inexplicable loss of form, combined with Murray, or Djokovic completely taking over the tour. I don't think Nadal can overtake him. He has too many points to defend before RG.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
You mean the rankings? They don't have ATP Race points anymore I don't think.

For Roger to lose the #1 before Wimbledon some pretty huge changes would have to occur pretty quickly. Some major injury to Fed (knock on wood) or a sudden inexplicable loss of form, combined with Murray, or Djokovic completely taking over the tour. I don't think Nadal can overtake him. He has too many points to defend before RG.

Yes, I know.. What I meant to do was, if people are really interested in those 287 weeks at number 1, we could just count to the date he makes it. If we want to know how many points he is ahead for the quest to be number 1 in june, we just have to start counting points exactly 52 weeks before that 287th week. You understand? I could count the points since that date for the top 6 or something, and we could just add the points as it progresses. it shows how Federer is doing from W09, till now compared to the others. Which is relevant when their points from now to RG fall off.
 

edmondsm

Legend
Yes, I know.. What I meant to do was, if people are really interested in those 287 weeks at number 1, we could just count to the date he makes it. If we want to know how many points he is ahead for the quest to be number 1 in june, we just have to start counting points exactly 52 weeks before that 287th week. You understand? I could count the points since that date for the top 6 or something, and we could just add the points as it progresses. it shows how Federer is doing from W09, till now compared to the others. Which is relevant when their points from now to RG fall off.

I gottcha. Do you know off hand what week it is that he will break the record? Sorry if it has already been posted, I have very little time to be a tennis nerd these days.:) At least not as much as I would like.
 

okdude1992

Hall of Fame
wow didn't realize nadal would fall so far. he better not be on the same side of the draw as fed at roland garros !!
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
I gottcha. Do you know off hand what week it is that he will break the record? Sorry if it has already been posted, I have very little time to be a tennis nerd these days.:) At least not as much as I would like.

Uhmm I think it will be immediately after Roland Garros, or just a week later (After Queens/Halle) I will find that out first as well.

@ Topaz and Malakas: Which players should be included do you think? Roger of course, Novak, Murray, Del Potro and Nadal?
 

Topaz

Legend
How about Roddick, as well? Not sure how far down you want to go (or how much work you want to do).
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
How about Roddick, as well? Not sure how far down you want to go (or how much work you want to do).

yeah, got a bit long, and much.. Tried to break it all down you know. if you scroll down, you see a ranking. If you ask in the thread I will count Roddick for you as well.
 

rhubarb

Hall of Fame
I have a spreadsheet that I track this stuff on, and have done since before Federer became number one for the first time (sad git, I know).

For now, Roger is assured the top spot until Miami, which is 276 weeks total. This is the worst case scenario, assuming he loses the AO final to Murray, and then doesn't play at all.

The closest person to overtaking him is Djokovic, who could achieve this right after Miami, assuming that Novak wins everything he enters and Federer drops all his points and gains none.

Alternatively, if Murray won everything, he could overtake Federer after Monte Carlo.

After Madrid, either Nadal or Del Potro could acheive this, and certainly after Roland Garros, since there is potential for such a huge swing of points.

I've not done calculations for other players as yet, but could if necessary, for instance Davydenko hardly played last spring so could pick up a huge amount.
 

malakas

Banned
I have a spreadsheet that I track this stuff on, and have done since before Federer became number one for the first time (sad git, I know).

For now, Roger is assured the top spot until Miami, which is 276 weeks total. This is the worst case scenario, assuming he loses the AO final to Murray, and then doesn't play at all.

The closest person to overtaking him is Djokovic, who could achieve this right after Miami, assuming that Novak wins everything he enters and Federer drops all his points and gains none.

Alternatively, if Murray won everything, he could overtake Federer after Monte Carlo.

After Madrid, either Nadal or Del Potro could acheive this, and certainly after Roland Garros, since there is potential for such a huge swing of points.

I've not done calculations for other players as yet, but could if necessary, for instance Davydenko hardly played last spring so could pick up a huge amount.

very interesting and thanx for the info rhubarb.As you can see we're all sad gits here so please do feel at home.:) if you can please update us from time to time..either here on in joeri's thread.It would be nice to have some sort of ranking thread in TW.
 

CMM

Legend
Murray has withdrawn from Marseille and unless he makes the final in Dubai, Nadal will be number 3 before Indian Wells.
 
Wanted to revive this rather than start new thread
Rank/Name(Nationality)/Pts/Position Moved/Tourneys Played

From ATPWorldTour.com:
1 Federer, Roger (SUI) 11,350 0 19
2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB) 8,310 0 22
3 Nadal, Rafael (ESP) 7,370 1 19
4 Murray, Andy (GBR) 7,300 -1 17
5 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG) 6,355 0 20
6 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS) 5,290 0 26
7 Roddick, Andy (USA) 4,210 0 20
8 Soderling, Robin (SWE) 3,855 0 27
9 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA) 2,985 0 22
10 Cilic, Marin (CRO) 2,970 0 23
11 Verdasco, Fernando (ESP) 2,860 0 24
12 Gonzalez, Fernando (CHI) 2,710 0 18
13 Monfils, Gael (FRA) 2,430 0 25
14 Stepanek, Radek (CZE) 2,240 0 22
15 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS) 1,980 5 30
16 Simon, Gilles (FRA) 1,880 0 25
17 Robredo, Tommy (ESP) 1,845 -2 26
18 Haas, Tommy (GER) 1,830 -1 19
19 Ferrer, David (ESP) 1,780 -1 25
20 Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS) 1,770 -1 20
21 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI) 1,765 0 21
22 Ferrero, Juan Carlos (ESP) 1,760 0 24
23 Berdych, Tomas (CZE) 1,545 0 28
24 Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO) 1,430 0 27
25 Isner, John (USA) 1,430 0 21
26 Almagro, Nicolas (ESP) 1,370 0 25
27 Monaco, Juan (ARG) 1,355 0 26
28 Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER) 1,305 1 27
29 Melzer, Jurgen (AUT) 1,270 3 28
30 Montanes, Albert (ESP) 1,265 0 27
31 Querrey, Sam (USA) 1,260 0 26
32 Bellucci, Thomaz (BRA) 1,246 -4 29
33 Karlovic, Ivo (CRO) 1,195 2 22
34 Lopez, Feliciano (ESP) 1,195 -1 27
35 Troicki, Viktor (SRB) 1,135 -1 31
36 Baghdatis, Marcos (CYP) 1,125 0 22
37 Tipsarevic, Janko (SRB) 1,060 0 29
38 Andreev, Igor (RUS) 1,040 3 31
39 Benneteau, Julien (FRA) 1,004 -1 28
40 Becker, Benjamin (GER) 961 0 30
41 Chardy, Jeremy (FRA) 950 1 31
42 Mathieu, Paul-Henri (FRA) 940 -3 25
43 Beck, Andreas (GER) 930 0 25
44 Sela, Dudi (ISR) 912 1 26
45 Hanescu, Victor (ROU) 905 -1 29
46 Seppi, Andreas (ITA) 900 0 30
47 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo (ESP) 894 0 30
48 Kubot, Lukasz (POL) 877 8 18
49 Korolev, Evgeny (KAZ) 868 -1 27
50 Cuevas, Pablo (URU) 838 0 29
51 Mayer, Florian (GER) 821 12 26
52 Zeballos, Horacio (ARG) 821 -3 27
53 Chiudinelli, Marco (SUI) 816 1 24
54 Gasquet, Richard (FRA) 810 -1 20
55 Blake, James (USA) 800 -3 22
56 Berrer, Michael (GER) 783 6 28
57 Fognini, Fabio (ITA) 780 0 30
58 Rochus, Olivier (BEL) 772 -3 27
59 Serra, Florent (FRA) 745 1 32
60 Greul, Simon (GER) 729 4 29
61 Gicquel, Marc (FRA) 724 -10 27
62 Clement, Arnaud (FRA) 724 -1 28
63 Starace, Potito (ITA) 707 2 31
64 Falla, Alejandro (COL) 667 2 21
65 Robert, Stephane (FRA) 666 2 27
66 Lacko, Lukas (SVK) 664 2 24
67 Acasuso, Jose (ARG) 660 -8 24
68 Russell, Michael (USA) 660 10 24
69 Stakhovsky, Sergiy (UKR) 658 0 27
70 Petzschner, Philipp (GER) 657 1 29
71 Fish, Mardy (USA) 650 -13 24
72 Luczak, Peter (AUS) 649 0 32
73 Mayer, Leonardo (ARG) 647 3 24
74 Koellerer, Daniel (AUT) 647 -1 27
75 de Bakker, Thiemo (NED) 636 7 24
76 Hernandez, Oscar (ESP) 633 -1 35
77 Istomin, Denis (UZB) 630 19 32
78 Dent, Taylor (USA) 623 -1 24
79 Llodra, Michael (FRA) 617 -9 20
80 Gimeno-Traver, Daniel (ESP) 613 1 32
81 Schwank, Eduardo (ARG) 608 -7 30
82 Ram, Rajeev (USA) 606 -3 25
83 Chela, Juan Ignacio (ARG) 605 -3 29
84 Hajek, Jan (CZE) 596 -1 26
85 Santoro, Fabrice (FRA) 565 2 27
86 Daniel, Marcos (BRA) 565 3 25
87 Rochus, Christophe (BEL) 563 -2 35
88 Marchenko, Illya (UKR) 563 -2 22
89 Schuettler, Rainer (GER) 560 5 31
90 Kunitsyn, Igor (RUS) 560 0 31
91 Lorenzi, Paolo (ITA) 557 -7 32
92 Zverev, Mischa (GER) 549 0 28
93 Gonzalez, Maximo (ARG) 548 0 20
94 Massu, Nicolas (CHI) 544 5 33
95 Lapentti, Nicolas (ECU) 540 0 21
96 Brands, Daniel (GER) 540 1 32
97 Giraldo, Santiago (COL) 532 3 22
98 Tursunov, Dmitry (RUS) 530 -7 21
99 Gulbis, Ernests (LAT) 529 -1 25
100 Ginepri, Robby (USA) 529 1 22
 
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