Discussion in 'Tennis Tips/Instruction' started by Larrysümmers, Dec 20, 2010.
This thread went from legitimate discussion to J011y hate to LeeD hate, got to love it.
My problem are uneducated and low skilled tennis players who seem to be oracles on the internet forums.
Actually, at my 3.5 thru 4.5 level, none of them ever even considered vid 'ing themselves or their friends. Gotta consider, some ugly strokes on the screen, like most of what pops up here.
Of the 20 or so guys I play tennis with, NONE have a decent service motion.
I have the worst forehand. Yea, I'm number ONE!
Most hit second serves like girls...or you guys.
Some bend their knees just fine, most don't at all, but the ones who do are the worst players.
The best doubles guy, maybe a true solid 4.5 in doubles, uses the same face of the racket for all shots....yet he digs up low and half volleys with no problems.
Almost every one of us have some debilitating injury that would keep most tennis players OFF the courts until recovery. Yet we still forge on and play.
You want to see such carnage?
And the best guy, an inshape 30 year old, who hits like a 5.5 at times, still can't serve or volley well, and is constantly injured.
Jolly hate kinda makes me nostalgic. Those were some fun days of name calling back and forth. Sure nothing got accomplished but I was entertained for a little.
Dude its a forum take a chill pill. Is Leed a bs artist sure but he isnt hurting anyone. You act like he is tying down virgins and sacrificing them to the gods.
entertainment is the name of the game.... too bad not many see it this way.
Yes. What he said! 8)
I wish I read this last night after leading by 4 strokes after the front 9.... at which point I started thinking overtaking the course record, and what kind of trash talking I can put on my opponent.
It was very entertaining, especially since it was usually j011y, joel, and dennis against drak, topaz, and tw mac. Pretty fun days, now it's just listening to LeeD's ridiculous posts
Never hit with Clint but Tony is the real deal. BHBH
..er.... pretty much sums up what I thought of TonLars...
I hope his newfound more powerful serve doesn't come with advancing age, reality check, and new injuries.
some well placed comic relief
Laugh if you must, or want. I know you didn't hit any 129 mph serves ever.
First off, Im hitting with a 4.0 player in the video you posted of mine. You may like how another stroke looks better than mine, but ill take my forehand with almost anyones. From a front view in this video there is no racquet head speed difference at all:
You think 12 and 14 year olds are better than division 1 college players though so I cant be surprised with any garbage you say.
Just as much as i know you didnt.. EVER
Dude, you do not understand that people here are looking for real advices? The last thing they need are semi-smart advices of an uneducated and low-skilled tennis player who seems to know everything and who seems to play as Federer (or better). This is a real problem for me. This should be a real problem for you, too.
Sure, but consider...
I claim about 110 nowadaze. I'm 62. I assume I hit a faster serve then, as would you.
Now about the 110. Nobody wants to hit with me, and you know I"ve posted my phone # more than 10 times. Rain happens often, and the one solid lead was for hitting on Monday at around 7PM, when I had to be in Oakland at 5;30PM, the other side of the flyover traffic and tied up with g/f. AND, I didn't get the notice until 11AM that day. Could you get notice at 11AM, then drop everything on a day rain was supposed to hit by evening, to forego finish dimensions on g/f's cabinet's, to be done with said g/f, just to chance a possible hit with somebody who had to drive 40 miles into BayArea traffic?
You poo poo my "110". Consider, I have played doubles with a few Div1 singles players, and a few Opens. Mostly they stand in, close to the baseline, to return serves. I hit a few right at them, and they stand back 4' to return my first serves. They don't stand that far back for anyone else's serves.
This is all irrelevant. You said you have a better serve than a touring ATP pro. How can you defend that statement?
Ask them for cameras.
Only one way to solve this. We all have to convince Clint Thomson to play the upcoming 15,000 dollar opens tournament in Victoria. Then we could have the TTW showdown: Tonalrs vs. Clint
I predict a thread lock before the 1500th post.
Are you serious with this. There is so much bad advice given here on a daily basis but you choose Leeds to attack. Sure he makes up more crap than anyone else but his advice is on the same level as most of the other average posters. There are very few people on here that give out solid advice.
And its not a problem for me. I would never ever use an internet forum to fix my tennis stroke. Seriously think about that. Someone who has never seen you hit or hit with you is gonna fix your stroke?
Fun days indeed. I wish it hadnt been at a nice guys expense but it kept everyone busy for a little.
I would take Clint in that match up but I will say that Tony would give him a hell of a match. If you watch Tony hit there is no way you are beating him with ease unless you are a top 200 caliber player. He is quick, consistent, and his strokes do not break down. That is a recipe for a tough player to beat.
Hey LeeD look at what age you posted,
I thought I mentioned I qualify for SocialSecurity back in Feb. That's 62.
No. He did.
Oh, I thought you said you turned 63 in Jan.
He did what? He attacked you? He doesnt really attack as much as say he could do something better than someone that he couldnt. That isnt attacking that is a lie.
Well, unfortunately a video wouldn't show how good Lee's serve "was." Like my grandpa says, "the older you get, the better you were."
You know, your grandpa is a sage.
But if you see my serve now, extrapolate back 35 years, you MIGHT be impressed.
What do they say? You lose about 10 % for every 10 years after 30?
So I lost 32%. Even if I spin a fast second serve in at 100mph, something I can do with a really high percentage that bothers most players more than my flat 110 serve, you'd have to think I could hit that serve around 115 in my younger years. So extrapolate what additional speed I'd get for a pure flat, and it might be right arouned the mid 120's, like I always said! :shock:
Kinda like...my average first try no warmup standing long jump right now is right at the 6'6" mark. 45 years ago, with no warmup and first attempt, right around 9'. Well, I've gained over 30 lbs since, have a currently swelling sprained ankle, and out of shape from 3 years of no running or jogging.
Did did you sprain the ankle?
Couple Sept's ago, I windsurfed a few days barefeet (I normally wear 3mm booties), so I tightned the straps on a different Mike'sLab slalom board and went out whoppee. But the winds rose, and 6.0 sail in 27mph gusts mean big chop for jumping. After a few, the straps slipped bigger, and I landed hard so foot slid forwards and twisted the front of my ankle severly. Barefeet in 57 degree waters, I didn't feel much pain, so I sailed for another hour.
I've lived with it ever since, no jogging, no running, no jumping (no land jumping)
Life is tough, then you die.
that sounds like a line from a 60+ .. I have some friends of this age range... although they are very optimistic people, they use similar lines in a humourous way with reference to death.
Finally. The conclusive proof we've all been looking for.
Haha, serve you probably have me beat but Ive got you on the standing jump. At the Olypmic training center last fall they had a place on the floor that measured it out, and I did it for fun and got about 9 3/4 feet.
Damn, you must have some strong legs. I guess that's why you have great movement on the court. Do you do any exercises or has just playing tennis built it up?
Yes, and that is why I've always respected TonLar's game. He has movement, but more important, he's WILLING to move for each point. Lots of guys, like Monfils, can leap huge distances...in his case, easily 10'. But it's the willingness to use your athletic ability on every point that makes a player stand out from all the posers.
You can look up SanFrancisco's AbrahamLincoln standing long jump record all around the top of the boy's gym. From 1964 thru 1982, I had the 10'2" record. In my mid '30's, going there to play 3 on 3, I saw my name was no longer up there, some guy did 11', but I don't know his nationality or size.
By the time I started tennis at age 24, I'd already collected two compound fractures of my tib/fib on different legs, one collarbone, several dislocates.
Yup, played today, maybe tomorrow, rain on weekend, some clearing and unsettled next week, gotta work either/or Sat-Sun AM's.
I didn't picture this when I started the thread.
Yes, the guy who thought a successful pro was a 4.0 and thinks TonLars is even in the same league with Clint
Of course if someone had a good jump, you must have had a better one. You are good for a laugh I must say.
Wow, this is a comedy routine. Tony slaps at his forehand for goodness sakes. Clint has amazing racquet head speed and was once in the top 500. Give me a break.
it's serious on these boards!! :cry: :shock:
well, it's 10:21 and I've got 30min before going to bed...
this evening has been a little disappointing... not a lot of actions yet.
Yeah, he has got the ranking and who can say different that he is the better player? But what is your issue with me? I have told you that I have beaten and played close with guys similar to that ranking and level. You dont like the way my forehand looks, but that doesnt mean a thing. I dont play futures and tour around, but when I beat or play close with those kind of players at open events it makes you look stupid when you keep ragging on me.
Hey Tony I thought you swtiched to APD GT, did you try out the PST GT find it better?
Does this make any sense to you?
Negative Ghost Rider
Hey I went to Lincoln too. My year was the last good year (last class to graduate without taking that stupid exit exam too). Lincoln went to **** after my year.
But can you do this? (w/a full cup of hot tea)
so with a faster swing. you get more topspin with the power, correct?
Not a chance, I can't pass the sobriety test, standing on one foot, touching fingers to nose. Neither foot. I'm flat footed, cannot balance on one foot.
What year did you graduate? SanFrancisco, right? I graduated in 1966.
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