Power Pads really do provide more power

If they are perfectly cut like Roger's racquet maybe 2-4 grams at the max but provide great dampening. I used it on my K90 & RF97. As specially RF97 is stiff racquet with full poly. I feel pretty good with power pad on it otherwise poly + racquet stiffness won't allow me to use full poly at all (even at 50lb). I won't play with RF97 without power pad unless you put multi or synthetic, which I hate.
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
Power pads really don't add more "power" at all lol. The actual effects are quite minimal, the powerpads slightly create a "larger sweetspot" as the mainstrings are slightly longer due to the powerpads but a 1 cm difference isn't much. It perhaps makes it feel softer as the mainstrings going around the plastic grommets may seem hard compared to the powerpads.

Players along the lines of dimitrov, federer and del potro have been using power pads in their early career several years ago due to a number of factors such as: - to help with the natural gut curvature angle around the throat grommets.

With a full bed of poly the effects of powerpads are essentially useless as the string is so stiff that the primary reason to use powerpads is redundant. It's like saying the woofer system on a babolat or crush zone on wilson solves discomfort issues, it doesn't do much
 

Mirdad

Rookie
If they are perfectly cut like Roger's racquet maybe 2-4 grams at the max but provide great dampening. I used it on my K90 & RF97. As specially RF97 is stiff racquet with full poly. I feel pretty good with power pad on it otherwise poly + racquet stiffness won't allow me to use full poly at all (even at 50lb). I won't play with RF97 without power pad unless you put multi or synthetic, which I hate.
Thanks
I’m going to tinker around with my RFA; use the power pads instead of the dampener.
If they are perfectly cut like Roger's racquet maybe 2-4 grams at the max but provide great dampening. I used it on my K90 & RF97. As specially RF97 is stiff racquet with full poly. I feel pretty good with power pad on it otherwise poly + racquet stiffness won't allow me to use full poly at all (even at 50lb). I won't play with RF97 without power pad unless you put multi or synthetic, which I hate.
Thanks. From. A different thread, here is the reason why I’m tinkering with my RFA.
Do you know how much a set of Kimony counter shock devices weighs? I've emailed Kimony but they have not replied as of yet. Also, was wondering if you still use a dampener?
My goal is to reduce the shock and vibration from a RF Autograph. So far I've swapped out the stock leather grip and installed a synthetic Head Hydrosorb Comfort grip which has been a very pleasant experience on my arm. I also have a synthetic Gamma shock buster dampener on the strings which weighs three grams. The Head comfort grip is only a few grams less than the leather grip that I replaced. However, it made the head one point heavier which is not a show stopper as the static weight is a few grams less. Ideally, I don't want to add too much weight to the head as I don't want to make it too head heavy which would cause me to add counter weight to the handle as the racquet is already 12.6 ounces. I was tinkering with the idea of removing the shock buster dampener which will eliminate three grams and just using the Kimony counter shock devices. I'm going to experiment and use three Kimony power pads to also reduce string vibration which should also nullify the use of the Gamma dampener (I have no idea how much the power pads weigh but since I'm just using three I will figure 2 grams). Lastly, I will be adding a Kimony over grip which are supposed to be the thinnest made in the industry. I can't imagine the Kimony over grip weighing more than one or two grams. That's the long version of why I need to know what the Kimony counter shock weighs:)
Thanks......
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
Thanks
I’m going to tinker around with my RFA; use the power pads instead of the dampener.

Thanks. From. A different thread, here is the reason why I’m tinkering with my RFA.
Powerpads and a vibration dampener are 2 different things with 2 different purposes. The dampener is for removing the "ting" and "twang" sound from the stringbed when you hit the ball. It doesn't actually remove any vibrations, just effects the sound.

Powerpads are for natural gut and multi/delicate string setups as a way to soften the grommets.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
Players along the lines of dimitrov, federer and del potro have been using power pads in their early career several years ago due to a number of factors such as: - to help with the natural gut curvature angle around the throat grommets.

With a full bed of poly the effects of powerpads are essentially useless as the string is so stiff that the primary reason to use powerpads is redundant.
Powerpads are for natural gut and multi/delicate string setups as a way to soften the grommets.
Delpo didnt use power pads early in his career. When he won the US Open, he wasn't using them. He only started to use them after the wrist surgeries. At the same time he switch from full ALU Power to an ALU Power/Gut hybrid; and lowered tension.

Not every pro using power pads is using gut in the mains. There are those using full poly, or poly hybrids, such as Verdasco.

Clearly there are players that find the power pads help soften the string bed, or at least the mains; and I would tend to agree with them
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Powerpads and a vibration dampener are 2 different things with 2 different purposes. The dampener is for removing the "ting" and "twang" sound from the stringbed when you hit the ball. It doesn't actually remove any vibrations, just effects the sound.

Powerpads are for natural gut and multi/delicate string setups as a way to soften the grommets.
Thanks
I’ve been experimenting with a multi in the mains and rpm blast at #45 in the crosses. So far that combo along with the Head Comfort grip instead of leather is providing a significant benefit.
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Delpo didnt use power pads early in his career. When he won the US Open, he wasn't using them. He only started to use them after the wrist surgeries. At the same time he switch from full ALU Power to an ALU Power/Gut hybrid; and lowered tension.

Not every pro using power pads is using gut in the mains. There are those using full poly, or poly hybrids, such as Verdasco.

Clearly there are players that find the power pads help soften the string bed, or at least the mains; and I would tend to agree with them
I’m all for trying different things to soften the string bed. As you may know the RF Autograph is a heavy and stiff frame. After trying many other possible players racquets, nothing offers the same stability and plow. I’m addicted to the much heavier ball that it rewards along with the correct technique. My arm is holding up okay but frequently is sore after a long hitting session. So far the switch to the Head comfort grip has greatly lessened any soreness. Just searching for other possibilities. Interesting about Delpo switching to power pads. I string my own racquets so it’s easy for me to experiment with different string set ups. I’ve got a scale and balance board so I’m a certified racquet junkie.-) Thanks again for the tips.
 

mctennis

Legend
Did your stringer say how much the power pads weigh?
Do you understand what a power pad is? Not trying to dismiss what question you are asking but power pads are tiny pieces of leather. It should add a tiny bit of weight at the bottom of the racquet. Probably not even enough to make you feel a difference at all. A lot less weight than putting a dampener in your racquet.
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
Do you understand what a power pad is? Not trying to dismiss what question you are asking but power pads are tiny pieces of leather. It should add a tiny bit of weight at the bottom of the racquet. Probably not even enough to make you feel a difference at all. A lot less weight than putting a dampener in your racquet.
From reading the comments I don’t think anyone knows the purpose for Powerpads. Adding powderpads for poly is useless
 

Mirdad

Rookie
I believe the original purpose of power pads was to keep the sharp edges of the racquet from cutting the gut strings, at the bottom, that most players used back in the day. Back then the racquets really had no grommets on the racquet.
Strange how they call them “power” pads. I’m hoping they weigh less than a worm string dampener which weighs 3 grams. My guess is I will save a gram or two. I like the head lightness of the RF Autograph and want to keep it that way. I remember the power pads I had on all my wood racquets.....those were the good ole days of the heavy racquets. No wonder I love my RFA and most of the Pro Staff wands of yesteryear.
 

mctennis

Legend
Strange how they call them “power” pads. I’m hoping they weigh less than a worm string dampener which weighs 3 grams. My guess is I will save a gram or two. I like the head lightness of the RF Autograph and want to keep it that way. I remember the power pads I had on all my wood racquets.....those were the good ole days of the heavy racquets. No wonder I love my RFA and most of the Pro Staff wands of yesteryear.
I would think the power pads would be less than the worn dampener. Plus they are at the very bottom of the racquet. The weight, IMO, should not be noticeable. I still use power pads on all my racquets. I think it helps with the vibration and feel. Of course I may be wrong and all of that is just in my head.
 

Mirdad

Rookie
I would think the power pads would be less than the worn dampener. Plus they are at the very bottom of the racquet. The weight, IMO, should not be noticeable. I still use power pads on all my racquets. I think it helps with the vibration and feel. Of course I may be wrong and all of that is just in my head.
Thanks
Do you find the power pads nullify the need for a worm string dampener?
 

mctennis

Legend
Thanks
Do you find the power pads nullify the need for a worm string dampener?
I used to use a dampener just to keep the noise ( thunk sounds) down mostly. If you use a stiff string then I think a dampener is beneficial, even with power pads. For vibration sake.
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Thanks
I did check out the posts on the pojies. They seem like they will be more effective than the leather pads. However I think they will add too much weight to the RF Autograph. Good to know there are other options m though.
 

Mirdad

Rookie
I find it intriguing that some people have very different experiences using power pads. I'll let you know what I think once I restring my racquet which may not be for another 2 weeks or so depending how much I play etc......
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
Looks like op has been stuck 40 years ago when these small leather strips were used to protect gut strings, but even then it had nothing to do with power.
Its purely superstitious nonsense like putting a piece of rubber in your stringbed, that does not help to damper the vibrations of your fame either.
I d say put more time into your training. It will be much better for your tennis than relying on these gimmicks!
 

Mirdad

Rookie
Looks like op has been stuck 40 years ago when these small leather strips were used to protect gut strings, but even then it had nothing to do with power.
Its purely superstitious nonsense like putting a piece of rubber in your stringbed, that does not help to damper the vibrations of your fame either.
I d say put more time into your training. It will be much better for your tennis than relying on these gimmicks!
I fully admit that I don’t know much about power pads other than they provide some clearance from the grommets for the mains in order to protect them from rough edges. However I’ve read several posts from this message board that they seem to provide other benefits. I value people’s input but prefer to experience the results first hand.
 

mctennis

Legend
I can tell a difference when I use them vs not using them. I like using power pads on my racquets. If you don't like using them, fine with me. It is whatever you like using is all that matters.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Their effect is noticeable, both in terms of swing weight and shock reduction. With regard to the latter, this is most noticeable with their first use, as the new leather hasn't compressed yet. As the leather compresses, the main strings actually lose a small amount of extra tension relative to what would occur without the pads installed. This no doubt adds to the perception of comfort. I believe they slightly deaden the feel of any string composition, including poly. They certainly don't make up for the inherent harshness of poly to any great degree though. I wonder whether Fed gets new power pads with every restring?
 

RFRF

Semi-Pro
Just tried power pads for first time in my raquet. I asked my stringer why they call them power pads, instead of just leather pads, and he said that since the pads actually provide a little more give on the main strings that they are used on (which basically consists of the main strings in the sweetspot of the racquet), this increases the string bowing effect, which increases dwell time and ultimately does provide the sense of having more power in the racquet.

He said that is why they fold them several times, because they provide slightly more "give" than just one layer. he said also because it slightly lengthens the strings in the sweetspot, and that makes sense too, as oversized racquets have much more power than mid and Midsize frames.

Any thoughts on this.... Seemed to make sense to me. and I can definitely feel the difference in my PC600.

by the way he said that they should be replaced at each striniging because as leather gets worn down, it looses it's "give" to the main strings which reduces the extra "bowing", or "cupping" effect, which is why natural gut is known as the ultimate power string, because of the extreme bowing or cupping effect of the ball.
I fully agree. I used pc600 with them and felt a massive difference. They also make a huge difference in my rf97
 

Mirdad

Rookie
I fully agree. I used pc600 with them and felt a massive difference. They also make a huge difference in my rf97
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm looking forward to getting my pads tomorrow. Not expecting huge changes but a little bit of vibration dampening is a good thing in a RF97:)
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I have a bag of plastic power pads I bought a hundred years ago. Plastic power pads, like leather ones, simply alter the angle of the string. Nobody's going to rationalize plastic power pads adding anything but a different angle. But there you go.... Why leather you ask, why not plastic from the get go? Well back in the wood days, you had to have something to do with those old leather grips and natural gut had a tendency to break at the throat on wood rackets. You'd cut the leather grip up, and since it was thin, you'd double it up and slip it under the mains down at the throat.

They were necessary for wood rackets down at the throat when stringing softer string. I remember back in the early days of Yonex when the frames were really Isometric (read square). Martina Navratilova had power pads installed at the head and the throat to protect her natural gut. Today's frames have grommets that are designed to negate the use of power pads. That's what technology and progress do, they tend to turn things into relics.

To those who cite the pros, well....they pros are just like us. They have their eccentricities too. Nadal and....well hell everything with Nadal.....from water bottles to his shorts to towels. The one thing he doesn't do is fool with power pads. ;) Federer gets them cause they look "cool". Well, that's as good a reason as any. Other pros like Djokovic have their rackets strung with the same hybrid as Federer cause hey they're fans too. Serena Williams changed to a Federer-esque string job (it was only after she thought she had duplicated his setup she found out he uses a different cross it was reported).

IMO, they absolutely do not provide power or dampening and are worthless on today's frames. They also do not replace dampeners (which really don't dampen).

Then why are they named power pads you may ask? Well, because it sounds cool. But that is the only reason.
 
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MAX PLY

Hall of Fame
My recollection is "Power Pads" was a brand name, I thought, from the plastic ones Rabbit refers to. The plastic ones also tended to break. Anyway, those are the first commercial ones I remember being available and later I remember round leather adhesive ones being available (they were on a pad of 20 or so that you just peeled off). As Rabbit mentioned, prior to that, we usually used the leather from old grips or the pieces we saved when we wrapped new grips. I still use them on my personal frames (the Kimmony ones) but only because I always have (I really hate change)--not sure they do anything but comfort my OCD.
 
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ron schaap

Hall of Fame
I have a bag of plastic power pads I bought a hundred years ago. Plastic power pads, like leather ones, simply alter the angle of the string. Nobody's going to rationalize plastic power pads adding anything but a different angle. But there you go.... Why leather you ask, why not plastic from the get go? Well back in the wood days, you had to have something to do with those old leather grips and natural gut had a tendency to break at the throat on wood rackets. You'd cut the leather grip up, and since it was thin, you'd double it up and slip it under the mains down at the throat.

They were necessary for wood rackets down at the throat when stringing softer string. I remember back in the early days of Yonex when the frames were really Isometric (read square). Martina Navratilova had power pads installed at the head and the throat to protect her natural gut. Today's frames have grommets that are designed to negate the use of power pads. That's what technology and progress do, they tend to turn things into relics.

To those who cite the pros, well....they pros are just like us. They have their eccentricities too. Nadal and....well hell everything with Nadal.....from water bottles to his shorts to towels. The one thing he doesn't do is fool with power pads. ;) Federer gets them cause they look "cool". Well, that's as good a reason as any. Other pros like Djokovic have their rackets strung with the same hybrid as Federer cause hey they're fans too. Serena Williams changed to a Federer-esque string job (it was only after she thought she had duplicated his setup she found out he uses a different cross it was reported).

IMO, they absolutely do not provide power or dampening and are worthless on today's frames. They also do not replace dampeners (which really don't dampen).

Then why are they named power pads you may ask? Well, because it sounds cool. But that is the only reason.
I m afraid that this forum is full of superstitious members who cant be convinced by rational arguments. Even Nadal who has around 50 superstitional routines during matches doesnt have them stupid pads. Federer and Williams are so old they played with gut and wooden racquets during their junior days, so they kept the useless pads untill today. If some famous pro is going to paint his buttcap purple, i bet it wont take long some forum members are duplicating this too, claiming it works for them. In medicine they call that the placebo effect. Lol lol.
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
I m afraid that this forum is full of superstitious members who cant be convinced by rational arguments. Even Nadal who has around 50 superstitional routines during matches doesnt have them stupid pads. Federer and Williams are so old they played with gut and wooden racquets during their junior days, so they kept the useless pads untill today. If some famous pro is going to paint his buttcap purple, i bet it wont take long some forum members are duplicating this too, claiming it works for them. In medicine they call that the placebo effect. Lol lol.
Agree. I cracked up hard when I saw someone writing "I had serious pain when i played with the rf97 with full poly, but now I use powerpads and still use full poly and it's extremely comfortable !111!!!!!"
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Power Pads to me would take a factional amount of weight off the frame as opposed to the dampener and provide some vibration dampening. Should be a better sense of feel as compared to having a W dampener in a frame for example. For these reasons I’m using them. Don’t know about the lengthening of the string or sweet spot increase. The string is only fractionally longer.
 
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