Power V grip: anybody use it
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Tim Tennis
Professional
Take a pencile, attach it to bevel 3 with tape or an overgrip. You will immediately notice how the size of bevel 2 and bevel 4 have been increased. Move your hand to the various grips, you will see what a tremendous frame of reference it provides and the extra leverage it gives the handle will be very evident.
Then you tightwad go buy the real thing. LOL, I do understand. If you look at the site you will see it has a money back guarantee so the $12.95 is not at risk. I even return the S&H if you are not happy.
Best regards,
Ed
President
Tennis Geometrics Corp.
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Tim Tennis
Professional
Continental, for serves and volleys. Here is a link.
http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/Continental_Tennis_Grip.html
Whatever grip you use on a regular shaped handle you can use with the PVG attached. The PVG adds leverage and gives each grip a "more unique feel" so you know exactly where your hand is on the handle.
Thanks for the question.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
pennc94
Professional
What is the mass of the PVG and PVGII?
neverstopplaying
Professional
I used it for 6 months about 4 years ago. I wanted to switch my forehand grip from E to SW and I was having problems finding a correct SW quickly when going from backhand to forehand. This made it easy.
I probably would have kept using it but I was continually switching racquets and decided to drop it. Maybe one day I'll try it again.
I probably would have kept using it but I was continually switching racquets and decided to drop it. Maybe one day I'll try it again.
Tim Tennis
Professional
You are right. Have been considering that.
Thanks for offering that suggestion.
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Tim Tennis
Professional
Check this link out maybe it will answer your question.
http://www.tennisgeometrics.com/wonder_wedge.html
Thanks,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Tim Tennis
Professional
Thanks for your kind words. You must have been using the original Power V Grip. It is fantastic for forcing/encouraging you to move your hand on the handle to the true grip position. Many people think they are using, for example the SW grip when in reality they have not moved their hand all the way over to that grip position.
I am surprised that you were able to go back to a standard shaped handle. Most people who have used the PVG for that long can't go back.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
pennc94
Professional
Thanks for the link.
Wow - over 18g for the PVG and almost 10g for the PVGII. That must really affect balance and static weight. Have you considered less dense materials ?
Tim Tennis
Professional
Interesting, thoughtful guestion. The quick answer is, no. Once we found Sorbothane we knew it was the perfect material even though it is dense. You can't wear it out, you can compress it millions of times and it will come back to the origial shape quickly and it is fantastic shock absorption material.
We used to get that question all the time but once players used it the balance never seemed to be a problem. If anything it would probably make the racquet slightly head light.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Tim Tennis
Professional
It is not squishy at all but it will compress slightly. We do have some test samples that are softer but still not squishy.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
I currently moved from grip size 4 down to 2. How will the Power V Grip perform on a grip size 2? Will it aid in service pronation and leverage?
When I tried using a Head squared handle at 4 1/2 I felt I had trouble hitting ground strokes over the net with a semi-western grip. A Prince 4 1/2 I had no trouble with. Finally, if I used a Head grip at 4 3/8 with nothing but an over grip I had no trouble with a square handle shape.
When I tried using a Head squared handle at 4 1/2 I felt I had trouble hitting ground strokes over the net with a semi-western grip. A Prince 4 1/2 I had no trouble with. Finally, if I used a Head grip at 4 3/8 with nothing but an over grip I had no trouble with a square handle shape.
OHBH
Semi-Pro
I'm curious as to the width of this aid. If it is narrow enough to fit on a L2 grip how would it feel on my L5 handles
Tim Tennis
Professional
Moving down in size will not be a problem.
The asymmetrical ridge the PVGs create by increasing the size of bevel 2 and bevel 4 provides new enhanced points of leverage and traction. Simply put the handle just fits so much better in your hand. Your fingers will lock around the handle to reduce and eliminate any twisting or turning in your hand. You will transfer more energy to the ball. People are amazed at how much more spin and action they get.
It looks like you are on a quest to find the perfect handle size for you. It is great that you appreciate just how important the shape and size of the handle is and how it can affect your game.
If you decide to try one of the Power V Grips I would recommend the new Power V Grip II.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
www.tennisgeometrics.com
Tim Tennis
Professional
Good question. When the concept of the Power V Grips was being developed we thought we would have to have eight molds to cover all the different handle sizes. The reality was we found that a PVG that was 3/4 of an inch wide at the base fit on all the handles sizes very well. On the small size handles the edges of the PVG might slightly overlap the bevel but it was never a problem. Look at it this way, there are eight bevels on the handle, if you added 1/16 of an inch, which is not much, to each bevel it would increase the handle size by 1/2 inch but the increase to any bevel is very slight.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
www.tennisgeometrics.com
Jonnyf
Hall of Fame
Yes, I certainly have in the past, both the original and the pvg II and I can't really speak highly enough about them, I've found them to be extremely useful, I'm not really sure why I don't keep it installed permanently, I just don't :S For the OP, I'd recommend trying it, It's only like $15 including shipping, what's the worst that can happen?
kreative
Hall of Fame
i think the PVG is a great tool to learning the correct grips - it really reinforces and feels great in the hand. for some reason, i had issues serving with it, as nothing seemed to work except if i was holding it with an eastern grip - it's likely just me. groundies felt best though.
Tim Tennis
Professional
Hello Jonnyf, so good to hear from you. Hope everything is going well. Thanks for your kind words.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Tim Tennis
Professional
kreative, thanks for the feedback and kind words. Sometimes that happens. That is why I wish that whenever someone has a problem with performing a certain stroke I could see what is going on. I feel that I could detect the problem and recommend corrections. It could be anything as simple as slightly changing your hand position on the handle, modifications in your mechanics and swing path or a combination of both. MOST ERRORS ARE CAUSED BY THE RACQUET HEAD ANGLE NOT COMPLIMENTING THE SWING PATH, of course this assumes you hit the ball on the strings.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics.
Tim Tennis
Professional
Damn, how many racquets do you have? Sure it will work.
You are going to have to settle on a certain size and stick with it, my gosh.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
www.tennisgeometrics.com
I have at least 38 rackets. Thats the amount I could remember off the top of my head.
4 Yonex MP Tour 1 Mid
3 Pro Kennex Ki5 PSE MP
2 Prince Graphite MP longbody
1 Dunlop 300G Hotmelt MP
2 Head Liquid Metal Radical MP
1 Head I Radical OS
1 Prince Original Graphite OS
1 Head Liquid Metal Prestige Mid
1 Prince O3 tour MP with Coria's name maked. TX somthing which was customized for him (28 inches long)
2 Wilson Prostaff 6.1 Classic Stretch MP
1 Wilson Hyper Prostaff 6.1 MP
1 Dunlop 200g xl MP
1 Wilson Ncode Tour 28 inch long mp (Unknown Serve and Volley pro's stick)
1 Yonex RD Ti-70 Mid
1 Broken Yonex RD Ti-70 Mid
2 Blackburne Double Strung MP
1 Blackburne Double Strung OS
1 Techno Pro Quartz Control OS
1 Wilson Graphite 115 os (Superlight power system marked on the throat)
2 Prince Ripstick MP 29 inch version
1 Dunlop Max 200g Mid
2 Head Limited Edition Agassi OS
1 Head Prestige Tour MP
1 Wilson Chris Evert Wooden Racket
1 Prince Thunderstick OS Longbody (28.5 inches long)
3 Pro Supex Dynamic Energy MP
That turned out to be 36 off the top of my head. I am pretty sure that is pretty much all the sticks I have.
Out of all those I have narrowed it down to 4 different racket to choose between given the recent changes I have made to my game. The are
Prince Graphite Longbody MP
Prince O3 Tour MP (Coria custom 28 inch stick)
Prince Thunderstick OS Longbody (28.5 inch long stick)
Pro Supex Dynamic Energy MP (27 inch long stick)
With the exception of the Prince Thunderstick I need more time hitting with those three other sticks. I need to film myself hitting with someone with those three other sticks to see how my forehand changes. Given 1 actual hitting session without filming myself I feel I might straighten my arm out more with the Dynamic Energy and more bent with the longbodies.
I will try to purchase the Power V grips during or at the end of the 2010 Winter Olympics here. I am expecting to purchase three of each Power V grip.
4 Yonex MP Tour 1 Mid
3 Pro Kennex Ki5 PSE MP
2 Prince Graphite MP longbody
1 Dunlop 300G Hotmelt MP
2 Head Liquid Metal Radical MP
1 Head I Radical OS
1 Prince Original Graphite OS
1 Head Liquid Metal Prestige Mid
1 Prince O3 tour MP with Coria's name maked. TX somthing which was customized for him (28 inches long)
2 Wilson Prostaff 6.1 Classic Stretch MP
1 Wilson Hyper Prostaff 6.1 MP
1 Dunlop 200g xl MP
1 Wilson Ncode Tour 28 inch long mp (Unknown Serve and Volley pro's stick)
1 Yonex RD Ti-70 Mid
1 Broken Yonex RD Ti-70 Mid
2 Blackburne Double Strung MP
1 Blackburne Double Strung OS
1 Techno Pro Quartz Control OS
1 Wilson Graphite 115 os (Superlight power system marked on the throat)
2 Prince Ripstick MP 29 inch version
1 Dunlop Max 200g Mid
2 Head Limited Edition Agassi OS
1 Head Prestige Tour MP
1 Wilson Chris Evert Wooden Racket
1 Prince Thunderstick OS Longbody (28.5 inches long)
3 Pro Supex Dynamic Energy MP
That turned out to be 36 off the top of my head. I am pretty sure that is pretty much all the sticks I have.
Out of all those I have narrowed it down to 4 different racket to choose between given the recent changes I have made to my game. The are
Prince Graphite Longbody MP
Prince O3 Tour MP (Coria custom 28 inch stick)
Prince Thunderstick OS Longbody (28.5 inch long stick)
Pro Supex Dynamic Energy MP (27 inch long stick)
With the exception of the Prince Thunderstick I need more time hitting with those three other sticks. I need to film myself hitting with someone with those three other sticks to see how my forehand changes. Given 1 actual hitting session without filming myself I feel I might straighten my arm out more with the Dynamic Energy and more bent with the longbodies.
I will try to purchase the Power V grips during or at the end of the 2010 Winter Olympics here. I am expecting to purchase three of each Power V grip.
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Tim Tennis
Professional
Soooo what are you going to do when they come out with the new models? LOL That is quite a list.
I think you are going to need at least 36 PVGs, maybe more with the new models coming out, just kidding. Enjoy the Winter Olympics.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
www.tennisgeometrics.com
Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
Havent seen this thread before. I am a Power V grip I user for almost 4 yrs now (all the way from the days it used to be called Wonder wedge). It is one of the best 10$ i ever spent.
I have two racquets and both have Power V grips on them. I do play with other racquets frequently but i have perfected the art of installing the Power V grip. I basically put Power V grip on existing grip of a racquet (on bevel 3) and the wrap an overgrip on top of it and i am good to go--basically takes less than a minute.
The biggest boost i had was on my serve and forehand. More consistent and powerful.
I have two racquets and both have Power V grips on them. I do play with other racquets frequently but i have perfected the art of installing the Power V grip. I basically put Power V grip on existing grip of a racquet (on bevel 3) and the wrap an overgrip on top of it and i am good to go--basically takes less than a minute.
The biggest boost i had was on my serve and forehand. More consistent and powerful.
Tim Tennis
Professional
Tennis Monk, so good to hear from you. Appreciate your comments.
I am surprised that you don't need one wrap of tape to keep the PVG/WW secure on the handle. This has to build up the size of your grip quite a bit. We do get a lot of orders where people do want to increase the size of the handle and that method of attaching it works great. It sure beats using 3 overgrips to try to increase the size, no handle definition.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
www.tennisgeometrics.com
Tim Tennis
Professional
Interesting, probably what has happened is the larger bevel 4 both PVGs create cause you to move your hand over to a true SW grip causing you to close the racquet face to some extent. Your hand position may have been in a in-between grip, Eastern/Semi-Western. The original PVG will definitely close the racquet face to more of a Western grip.
The inconsistency may be caused by you going back and forth to the hand/wrist angle you used with a standard shaped handle to what you use with the PVG attached.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
tailofdog
Semi-Pro
Ordered @
I just ordered 2 after reading a lot about custom grips. I had the Babolat smart grip which i liked jus, not the racquet.
I will give a review
I just ordered 2 after reading a lot about custom grips. I had the Babolat smart grip which i liked jus, not the racquet.
I will give a review
Tim Tennis
Professional
Great, appreciate your interest.
Can't wait for your feedback.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Ed is certainly spot on with analysis of what most players are going to go through with the PVG the first few sessions with it. There is a learning curve. It is not an automatic fix to our grip issues. What the PVG does is really help one lock in your grips and duplicate them over and over. Once you learn to serve and volley with the PVG continental grip(a true continental grip, not an almost continental that most of us have), you will be sold on it completely. As this happens, your slice backhand will probably reach a new level too, using this PVG continental grip.
As far as forehand grips go, if you think you have a semi western FH and you install the PVG, put your base knuckle and palm behind your new bevel 4, and find the racquet is more closed than before, just stay with it and you will adjust and reap the rewards in the long run. With the PVG semi western FH grip, you now have a true semi western FH, as most pros use. A grip with the PVG facing forward, fingers wrapped around it, is a true western grip(such as Nadal uses).
Tim Tennis
Professional
Stroke,
Thank you so much for your imput.
Summary: How well you play this great game is going to depend on where you place your hand on the racquet handle and how accurately you are able to do it time after time.
You must be aware of and able to control the racquet head angle as it relates to swing path and contact point.
You must be able to transfer as much energy as possible to the ball to maximize power, spin and action.
That is what the PVGs are all about.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Thank you so much for your imput.
Summary: How well you play this great game is going to depend on where you place your hand on the racquet handle and how accurately you are able to do it time after time.
You must be aware of and able to control the racquet head angle as it relates to swing path and contact point.
You must be able to transfer as much energy as possible to the ball to maximize power, spin and action.
That is what the PVGs are all about.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
Mig1NC
Professional
According to their website it is.
Tim Tennis
Professional
Hi Guys,
The Power V Grip has been approved for play by the ITF and the USTA.
We send a copy of the letter out with each order.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
The Power V Grip has been approved for play by the ITF and the USTA.
We send a copy of the letter out with each order.
Best regards,
Ed
Tennis Geometrics
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
InsideOutTennis
New User
Anyone know where to buy a Power V grip now? Haven't heard or seen anything from Ed, and can't find anything online. The website is now defunct and I'm in need of a bunch of Power V grips.
Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
It isn't exactly the same but I brought a thick sorbathane strip and cut it to the same dimensions. It is working so far.
I used a sharp knife and scissors so it didn't come out professional but someone with sophisticated equipment could make it damn close.
I used a sharp knife and scissors so it didn't come out professional but someone with sophisticated equipment could make it damn close.
Just bumping this thread to say how much I continue to love this concept and pay tribute to Ed
Been playing with custom made Power v grip for a year now
Never owned one directly from Ed... But man, what a discovery from him.
My biggest flaw used to be return of a big serve. Thanks to this grip insert, no more twisting of the racquet. You find the grip without looking and you get a nice grip (not too tight, not to loose) to chip or swing away
Any one else continuing to have success with this invention?
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Been playing with custom made Power v grip for a year now
Never owned one directly from Ed... But man, what a discovery from him.
My biggest flaw used to be return of a big serve. Thanks to this grip insert, no more twisting of the racquet. You find the grip without looking and you get a nice grip (not too tight, not to loose) to chip or swing away
Any one else continuing to have success with this invention?
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Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
How did you get the grip? did you buy used or made one?
I made one with the double sided tape idea posted elsewhere on this forum...
It's simply layering 5 strips of tape. I also cut them in different lengths to get the wedge at the top.
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It's simply layering 5 strips of tape. I also cut them in different lengths to get the wedge at the top.
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Yoneyama
Hall of Fame
I'd love to see some pictures if you ever get the chance!
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
I think I have some old pics from when I used to do it.
