Power V grip/Wonder Wedge question - EBH

[SC in MA]

I dug out an old Wonder Wedge/PowerV grip I bought many years ago and never used much.

I'm going to try it out again, but I can't figure out the Eastern Backhand grip using it.

I found a Tim Tennis (RIP Ed) comment where he said "for the EBH grip (your fingers wrap around the asymmetrical shape)"

So, that would mean the WW is at the bottom of the grip with the fingers on it, while the knuckles are on the top of the racket. That didn't feel too comfortable to me.

As an alternative, I tried the EBH grip with the knuckles on top of the WW and the fingers on the bottom part of racket grip, which feels slightly more comfortable, though it seems to put the grip into a slightly more extreme EBH grip.

I hope I explained that ok.

Does anyone have any feedback on using the WW with an EBH ? TIA.

 

[Deleted member 23235]

to hit an EBH, the only 2 ways i can see gripping it are:
1. 4 fingers wrapped on ww-asymmetrical edge
2. thumb wrapped on ww-asymmetrical edge
not sure what you mean by "ww is at the bottom of the grip"... ie. where else would you put it?

i use #1... ie. ebh grip for serve...
i don't normally hit a 1hander (but i can hit it), but i do also hold it like #1

i can't even picture how the knuckles are on top - the "peak" of the ww (ie. that's a continental grip to me)... presuming the ww is on the bevel matching the face of the racquet.

side note, my hand is "splayed out" so my "knuckles" are at at an angle, but definitely not resting on the peak of the ww.

 

[SC in MA]

not sure what you mean by "ww is at the bottom of the grip"... ie. where else would you put it?

Sorry for the confusion. I meant what Tim Tennis had said, that is, "for the EBH grip (your fingers wrap around the asymmetrical shape)".

Thanks for the response. I hope to hit with it either later today or tomorrow. Just swinging it, the SW forehand and Cont. grips feel great.

 

[Yoneyama]

Let me know if you want to sell it. I've always wanted to give this gadget a go.

I dug out an old Wonder Wedge/PowerV grip I bought many years ago and never used much.

I'm going to try it out again, but I can't figure out the Eastern Backhand grip using it.

I found a Tim Tennis (RIP Ed) comment where he said "for the EBH grip (your fingers wrap around the asymmetrical shape)"

So, that would mean the WW is at the bottom of the grip with the fingers on it, while the knuckles are on the top of the racket. That didn't feel too comfortable to me.

As an alternative, I tried the EBH grip with the knuckles on top of the WW and the fingers on the bottom part of racket grip, which feels slightly more comfortable, though it seems to put the grip into a slightly more extreme EBH grip.

I hope I explained that ok.

Does anyone have any feedback on using the WW with an EBH ? TIA.

 

[superstringer]

I dug out an old Wonder Wedge/PowerV grip I bought many years ago and never used much.

I'm going to try it out again, but I can't figure out the Eastern Backhand grip using it.

I found a Tim Tennis (RIP Ed) comment where he said "for the EBH grip (your fingers wrap around the asymmetrical shape)"

So, that would mean the WW is at the bottom of the grip with the fingers on it, while the knuckles are on the top of the racket. That didn't feel too comfortable to me.

As an alternative, I tried the EBH grip with the knuckles on top of the WW and the fingers on the bottom part of racket grip, which feels slightly more comfortable, though it seems to put the grip into a slightly more extreme EBH grip.

I hope I explained that ok.

Does anyone have any feedback on using the WW with an EBH ? TIA.

Hi SC in MA,

I came across some posts about the wonder wedge and saw that you really liked it and used it. Unfortunately, Tim Tennis died and the website secondprime.com has many pictures that won't show for me.

Did you figure out how to hold the racquet with the ww?

I have a semi-western fh and one handed bh. I played last night with it and I played with the wedge facing up and my palm on top of the wedge, so basically the wedge was between my palm and the racquet. After our match, I decided to hit some balls with the wedge facing down and my fingers wrapped around the wedge. It felt more natural and I was able to rip forehands. My bh had more top on it as well, but I hit a bunch in the net as I am known to have a flatter backhand.

Is it ok to reverse the wedge?

On serves, I had so much spin that serving against the wind was a challenge as I hit a bunch of balls in the net. I had the wedge facing to the right when I held the continental grip with my fingers around the wedge. Is that how it is meant to be held?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Dan

 

[SC in MA]

Hi SC in MA,

I came across some posts about the wonder wedge and saw that you really liked it and used it. Unfortunately, Tim Tennis died and the website secondprime.com has many pictures that won't show for me.

Did you figure out how to hold the racquet with the ww?

I have a semi-western fh and one handed bh. I played last night with it and I played with the wedge facing up and my palm on top of the wedge, so basically the wedge was between my palm and the racquet. After our match, I decided to hit some balls with the wedge facing down and my fingers wrapped around the wedge. It felt more natural and I was able to rip forehands. My bh had more top on it as well, but I hit a bunch in the net as I am known to have a flatter backhand.

Is it ok to reverse the wedge?

On serves, I had so much spin that serving against the wind was a challenge as I hit a bunch of balls in the net. I had the wedge facing to the right when I held the continental grip with my fingers around the wedge. Is that how it is meant to be held?

Thanks for any help you can provide,

Dan

Hey Dan.

Sorry to say I gave up on the WW shortly after my last comment. I actually can't really remember why now.

I still have the WW on one of my rackets. Just swinging it around I believe the proper use is with the WW down, which feels more natural as you said. In this position with the WW down, in order of benefit, I think the WW works really well with the SW forehand, then any stroke using a Cont. grip and lastly with the EBH grip used for a one hand topspin backhand.

For the Cont. serve grip, it sounds like you're using the WW properly on the serve with your fingers around the WW. Concerning your serves going into the net, my guess is your ball toss might be too far out in front of your body.

I think if I were to use the WW again, I would try it on a racket with a smaller (or much smaller) grip than my normal grip. I think this might help emphasize the WW grips and the benefits of the WW.

Anyway, good luck with it. Please provide updates if you continue to use it !

 

[superstringer]

Awesome. Thanks for your prompt reply. I actually have a really big hand and wish they made a bigger size then 4 and 5/8. I usually have sweaty palms and tend to have off center mishits in the hotter weather cause more shanks then I’d like.

With that said, I did realize I needed to trim mine so I could have my index finger rest on the beveled edge and it feels even better. I am going to practice tonight with it and see how it plays for the second time.

I could see how a smaller grip size would be needed for some as it does make the grip slightly larger.

Thanks again,

Dan

 

[Bobs tennis]

Do new have any pictures of the wonder wedge

 

[SC in MA]

Do new have any pictures of the wonder wedge

Do a Google search on "wonderwedge tennis" and look under Images. There are a number of photos there.

 

[superstringer]

The images only show what the wonder wedge looked like if you go to secondprime.com or http://www.keohi.com/tennis/wonderwedge/wrap.htm

It doesn’t show how to hold it as those images are old and I couldn’t get my browser to display them.

 

[Tennis_Monk]

https://images.app.goo.gl/FFzfkazaw1oggSQ36

 

[SC in MA]

Aargh !!!

After taking a look at the limited photos that are available, I noticed that the WW on my racket was on the WRONG bevel of the racket ! For some reason, I placed the WW on bevel 1 instead of bevel 3.

So I then went ahead a repositioned it onto bevel 3. What a huge difference.

This photo link, which hopefully you can see, shows the SW forehand grip with the WW. http://www.secondprime.com/SW_hit.html

I can now see that for right-handers, the WW will be on right side, which is bevel 3, when holding the racket, basically fitting into the palm of the hand, though at different parts of the palm depending on the grip. A good number of Tim's testimonials raved about how the WW really improved the feel, positioning and grip for a one-hand topspin backhand and I can now understand why.

For the serve, what Tim described for the Continental grip now makes a lot more sense. He said

"the WW increases the size of bevel 2. Now the knuckle on the base of your index finger has enough room to fit on. Imagine that. The asymmetrical ridge created when the height of bevel 3 was increased creates a fantastic frame of reference for moving your hand on the handle that benefits all the grips, not just the Continental."

I can now see and feel how true this is.

 

[Yoneyama]

Still wouldn't mind buying one off someone if they don't use it anymore. Recovering from a hand injury and when I come back I would still like to give the WW a go.

 

[superstringer]

You can make one pretty easily. It costs $10 to buy a roll of Scott’s double mounting tape. All I did was take off all the grips. Then I held the racquet in my forehand grip and marked where my index finger rested. I then cut a strip of the double mounted foam and placed it on the handle from the edge of the butt cap.

I then put a strip slightly below the first strip and cut it off flush at the butt cap.

I repeated this for 5 total strips. I then took double sticky tape and wrapped it around my entire handle.

Then I re-gripped my racquet and was done.

 

[superstringer]

Aargh !!!

After taking a look at the limited photos that are available, I noticed that the WW on my racket was on the WRONG bevel of the racket ! For some reason, I placed the WW on bevel 1 instead of bevel 3.

So I then went ahead a repositioned it onto bevel 3. What a huge difference.

This photo link, which hopefully you can see, shows the SW forehand grip with the WW. http://www.secondprime.com/SW_hit.html

I can now see that for right-handers, the WW will be on right side, which is bevel 3, when holding the racket, basically fitting into the palm of the hand, though at different parts of the palm depending on the grip. A good number of Tim's testimonials raved about how the WW really improved the feel, positioning and grip for a one-hand topspin backhand and I can now understand why.

For the serve, what Tim described for the Continental grip now makes a lot more sense. He said

"the WW increases the size of bevel 2. Now the knuckle on the base of your index finger has enough room to fit on. Imagine that. The asymmetrical ridge created when the height of bevel 3 was increased creates a fantastic frame of reference for moving your hand on the handle that benefits all the grips, not just the Continental."

I can now see and feel how true this is.

That’s weird. I found better results by having the wonderwedge fit under my fingers. In other words, instead of holding it like in the picture shown, I reversed it and my palm laid flat on the handle and I could grab the wedge with my fingers.

I found this more comfortable and hit with it last night and played the best I have played in a long time.

 

[SC in MA]

That’s weird. I found better results by having the wonderwedge fit under my fingers. In other words, instead of holding it like in the picture shown, I reversed it and my palm laid flat on the handle and I could grab the wedge with my fingers.

I found this more comfortable and hit with it last night and played the best I have played in a long time.

Very interesting. After your comment, I tried both forehand grips (the one from the photo and the reversed one you had better results with) while swinging the racket around. Your reversed grip does feel more natural just swinging the racket around and trying the forehand grips.

I should have a chance to hit tomorrow with my WW racket to get some on-court feel for the forehand grips, as well as getting an updated feel for the WW in general.

 

[superstringer]

I played twice with it down in my fingers and my hitting partner said he has never seen me hit better more consistently.

 

[Tennis_Monk]

Trying to understand what you are doing so that I can try.

Basically is it putting ww in number 3 bevel but the racquet can be held so that wedge is on fingers side?

 

[superstringer]

Correct.

 

[superstringer]

Still wouldn't mind buying one off someone if they don't use it anymore. Recovering from a hand injury and when I come back I would still like to give the WW a go.

I figured out how to make one out of wood (poplar). I videoed it and hope to upload it on my youtube channel soon.

 

[aarenes]

You can make one pretty easily. It costs $10 to buy a roll of Scott’s double mounting tape. All I did was take off all the grips. Then I held the racquet in my forehand grip and marked where my index finger rested. I then cut a strip of the double mounted foam and placed it on the handle from the edge of the butt cap.

I then put a strip slightly below the first strip and cut it off flush at the butt cap.

I repeated this for 5 total strips. I then took double sticky tape and wrapped it around my entire handle.

Then I re-gripped my racquet and was done.

Have a look at thread #50 at the link below.
I have posted images showing how the WW was built using double sided tape

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=300595&share_fid=21313&share_type=t

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[velvetsledgehammer]

I still use the Power V Grip. I think it is more effective on the fh side with the wedge facing forward, fingers wrapped around it. If one has the lower knuckles of the fingers wrapped around it, it would be pretty much a full western(same side of strings on backhand side would be a strong eastern backhand grip). On the forehand, wedge facing forward, if one has the knuckle tips wrapped around the wedge, it is a semi western type grip. That is what I use.