stringertom
Bionic Poster
ESPN reporting the great driver is in critical condition with a brain injury after a horrible skiing accident. What a tragedy if we lose him! Please have his well-being in your thoughts and prayers!
Pray for Michael Schumacher!
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dParis
Hall of Fame
Strange. Just yesterday I read that his injuries were not life threatening and I was making fun of the goofy picture of him skiing while wearing a silly looking alpine/race car driver jacket.
Story said he was wearing a helmet. Still, skiing can get dangerous quickly - especially off-piste.
Story said he was wearing a helmet. Still, skiing can get dangerous quickly - especially off-piste.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Schumacher, who has a chalet nearby, has a reputation as an accomplished skier, and resort officials said he was wearing a helmet when he fell. His medical team told the news conference that the severity of his impact with the rock, causing the lesions on the right side of his brain, was such that he would have died had he not been wearing a helmet.
“Without a helmet, he wouldn’t be here now,” Dr. Payen said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/sports/autoracing/schumacher.html?_r=0
“Without a helmet, he wouldn’t be here now,” Dr. Payen said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/31/sports/autoracing/schumacher.html?_r=0
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
???
The guy arrived to the hospital in coma, had the brain surgery to stop the bleeding and is now fighting for his life. Doctors will not comment till Tuesday when they will know if he has any chance for survival or not.
I don't think his experience helped here much...
Overdrive
Legend
Yes, I read and saw it.
1. Many people forget to wear a helmet while doing physical activity (when it is important such as riding a bike and others)
2. What I meant was that just because you're experienced in something, doesn't mean that you won't get injured performing in it.
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dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Felix le chat
Rookie
He was wearing a full face helmet plus a back and chest protector..Helmet was
found not cracked but in pieces..
Without it he would have died on the spot.
found not cracked but in pieces..
Without it he would have died on the spot.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Lets hope he pulls through!
Heard he was improving a little bit.
Outside of that , on the topic of Formula One,
was he as great as some say?
Was his car the same or worse than the rest of the guys cars?
Heard he was improving a little bit.
Outside of that , on the topic of Formula One,
was he as great as some say?
Was his car the same or worse than the rest of the guys cars?
Felix le chat
Rookie
In my book definitely one of the greats, I put him right behind Ayrton Senna.
Schumacher won 7 world titles ( 5 with Ferrari, 2 with Bennetton ) and has 91 victories in Formula 1 GP
under his belt.
The ferrari might have been the top F1 car one year but in the long run it's the pilot and his abilities to
work with his team to set up / race a near perfect car on each track that makes the difference.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Ok,which year may it have been the top car?
And what other cars were the better ones the other 7 years?
dominikk1985
Legend
the ferreri was very good but in some years the williams and later the mercedez cars were a little faster. in some years it probably was the best car though (the mercedez and williams often had a stronger engine but the ferreri might have had a better driveability in the turns).
without a top car you are not winning in the F1.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
What years exactly?
OTMPut
Hall of Fame
Must have been a pretty bad fall.
Schumi was always a daredevil.
Also reminds you how fragile life is and how unexpectedly short it can be.
People make a big fuss, big plans and get crazy and miss it point blank.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
....or get hit on your commute to work, or slip in the bathtub, or...........
Spin Doctor
Professional
Apparently he wasn't going very fast. Just hit a bad patch/rock and hit his head a rock. Bad luck.
Accidents happen doing all sorts of mundate things. Doesn't necessarily mean he was being reckless.
borg number one
Legend
I don't follow F1 racing, but I'm learning about him as a racer and person. I hope and pray that he can make a recovery. Nice thread stringertom. I just found this page on FB.
https://www.facebook.com/pullingforschumi
https://www.facebook.com/pullingforschumi
What is this all about?
Off piste means a lot of things and how is snowboarding worse?
?
dParis
Hall of Fame
"Off piste" doesn't mean a lot of things. It is the area on the mountain which is off of the groomed and/or marked ski trails. It is also known as back country skiing. Conditions are variable. Thus, it is inherently more dangerous than on trail skiing given similar degrees of slope.
Very poor analysis of the situation. Off piste skiing is not a mundane activity. Unless Schumacher was skiing from a trail to his chalet over gentle slope, or something similarly "mundane", he put himself in a situation of elevated risk. Not that the resulting injury should be expected, but the possibility of such an injury is greatly increased. In such situations, one can go from having great fun to seriously injured/dead in the blink of an eye.
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WildVolley
Legend
This is why I play dodge on the freeway, because more people are injured in bathtub falls. You really can't argue with this; it is just statistics.:twisted:
I'd guess that professional race car drivers are considerably more risk-seeking than the average human.
Best wishes for Schumacher.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Life is a series of events involving the yin yang of risk/reward. For many in Schumacher's shoes, that first part of the equation becomes addictive. In his case, he reaped many rewards for his skillful daring. This time, he wasn't so lucky.
Whether he should have been doing what led to this trauma is irrelevant to me...it's his life to live as he chooses. I just hope he can regain all cognitive and motor skills to live a happy, productive remainder of his days on our planet. That's why he will be in my prayers until his complete recovery is accomplished.
Whether he should have been doing what led to this trauma is irrelevant to me...it's his life to live as he chooses. I just hope he can regain all cognitive and motor skills to live a happy, productive remainder of his days on our planet. That's why he will be in my prayers until his complete recovery is accomplished.
I've seen off piste used for all skiing off of marked trails. Granted, "Means" may have been the wrong word choice, but my intent was to say that off piste encompasses a huge range of conditions, both for snow pack and skier ability needed. None of us know where he was skiing or what the conditions were. He may have been on 60deg ice accessed by a 2 stage repel or something just off a groomer that sees a ton of skier traffic and is no more difficult than a marked black slope. Seeing that he was with his 14yr old son, I'm guessing it was closer to the later.
Edit: Where witnesses say he fell. Under the gondi, and doesn't look much more difficult than the bumps next to it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...urgery-piste-skiing-accident-leaves-coma.html
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Tennisman.de
New User
He was only a Few Meters away from the normal Piste. He helped a Girl Which was fallen to Stand up. After that he startend again Skiing with Slow Speed then the accident Happyend. Here is the picture from the rock.
http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3512219/567153158-w530-h354-o-q75-p5/14873E00EC0DC62E.jpg
http://p5.focus.de/img/fotos/origs3512219/567153158-w530-h354-o-q75-p5/14873E00EC0DC62E.jpg
Tennisman.de
New User
Here is the complete Story. You Must translate it.
http://www.bz-berlin.de/sport/formeleins/ski-unfall-schumis-schicksals-felsen-article1783432.html
stringertom
Bionic Poster
No good deed goes unpunished!
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Pretty common.
The above talk about "dangerous off piste skiing" is fine, but in reality, most skiing accidents happen:
1) At the end of the day when you get tired and therefore lazy. Bad things can happen.
2) When you relax and stop focusing on what you are doing (like in easy green groomed runs). I've caught edges and crossed skis more times than I can count AFTER executing a difficult run and gone down like a ton of bricks. If there had been a rock under my head when this had happened........
stringertom
Bionic Poster
^^^The rock would have lost!:twisted:
dParis
Hall of Fame
If there was a rock under your head, then you probably weren't on a green run. Or a blue run. But yes, bad things can happen anywhere on the mountain. I don't have the numbers, but I'm guessing most accidents happen where the most skiers are. There are probably more deaths per year on a typical U.S. highway than on a Bolivian mountain road, but that doesn't make the mountain road less dangerous.
Looking at the pictures of where the accident supposedly occurred, I see plenty of smooth, groomed looking terrain all around. I would have avoided that area knowing first, the risk for serious injury exponentially increases and second, that I'm a lousy skier. Everyone makes, or should make, a decision on what terrain they are going to take on based on their skiing ability and their off mountain responsibilities. Keeps me conservative on the slopes but for others the formula works out differently.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Early season conditions. There are rocks everywhere.
dParis
Hall of Fame
I forgot, you're still serving time for that public indecency conviction. Once you're on the outside, you'll find the skiing much less treacherous. 'Till then, good luck and don't drop the slope.
r2473
G.O.A.T.
Everyone seemed fine when it was just the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and me having a little fun. I think someone called the cops because you wouldn't stop screaming "look at the size of it".
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