Predict the exact result of Djokovic-Murray final :)

Numero Uno

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I'll start with Novak winning 7-5 4-6 6-4 6-3 :D
i will give prize if someone gets exact score even though its my birthday :)
 
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StannisTheMannis

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This forum cries about Novak winning until the next significant tournament. "Weak era" and "fed could have destroyed Novak 6-0 6-0 6-(-1) if he wasn't a 148 year old father of 500" comments incoming.
 
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Deleted member 716271

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6-3, 6-4, 5-7, 6-2. Murray to cry in the trophy ceremony.
 

tennis_pro

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11 for Novak will mean he has surpassed that mug Borg

Borg's 11 would be worth more than Djokovic's 11. He didn't play the AO (with the exception of 1974 I think when he was 17) because it was considered a minor tournament at the time. Dominated the FO and Wimbledon when it wasn't played on the same surface as it is now + he was unlucky to have 2 American ATG's compete with him at the US Open.
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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Borg's 11 would be worth more than Djokovic's 11. He didn't play the AO (with the exception of 1974 I think when he was 17) because it was considered a minor tournament at the time. Dominated the FO and Wimbledon when it wasn't played on the same surface as it is now + he was unlucky to have 2 American ATG's compete with him at the US Open.
So now RG is played on grass or Wimbledon is played on clay? There really is no end to your nonsense. :D
 
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Borg's 11 would be worth more than Djokovic's 11. He didn't play the AO (with the exception of 1974 I think when he was 17) because it was considered a minor tournament at the time. Dominated the FO and Wimbledon when it wasn't played on the same surface as it is now + he was unlucky to have 2 American ATG's compete with him at the US Open.

What about weeks at 1 and ye 1
 

StannisTheMannis

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Borg's 11 would be worth more than Djokovic's 11. He didn't play the AO (with the exception of 1974 I think when he was 17) because it was considered a minor tournament at the time. Dominated the FO and Wimbledon when it wasn't played on the same surface as it is now + he was unlucky to have 2 American ATG's compete with him at the US Open.
As opposed to the 2 scrubs Novak had to compete with right?
 
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Deleted member 307496

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That would be nice to finish it off in a TB for a change! How many sets has Nole lost when serving for it, goes into a TB, only to drop it and have to take match in a 4th or 5th set? ;-)
Think he's going to close it out against Murray this time. He's playing good tennis. Murray's not looking as good. Only conclusion I can come to is something like this. I'd be very happy if Murray wins but it's the AO, so..
 

tennis_pro

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So now RG is played on grass or Wimbledon is played on clay? There really is no end to your nonsense. :D

Back in the 70's/80's clay was clay and grass was grass. Nobody had a prayer to do well in both tournaments playing the same way. That's why Borg was a genius. He was the best baseliner out there at the French and then attacked the net a lot at Wimbledon. Is there any difference in Djokovic's play? No.
 
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Getting pummeled by Novak. And it must burn you so much.
Fed's taking sets at nearly 35 years of age.
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Fiero425

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Um... not that many? Lol

Enough of them! OTTH '11 USO, serving for the 3rd set final against Rafa! Dropped serve, lost TB, then had a fairly easy 4th set after many hours! It was almost the same scenario at '12 AO; serving for it in the 4th, dropped it, lost TB with Rafa going to his knees pumping up the crowd! Nole ended up having to come back from the dead in that match being down a break finally winning in 5! Lastly I can remember '14 Wimbledon against Federer; up 2 breaks serving for it, lost them both, then dropped the TB only to finish off Roger in 5! Do I need to go on? There are tons of these instances; even in majors! You expect a little bit of a "walkabout" in smaller events, but this is happening in the biggies well! ;-)
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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Back in the 70's/80's clay was clay and grass was grass. Nobody had a prayer to do well in both tournaments playing the same way. That's why Borg was a genius. He was the best baseliner out there at the French and then attacked the net a lot at Wimbledon. Is there any difference in Djokovic's play? No.
Yeah, FO and Wimbly being the same now perfectly explains why Djokovic hasn't won the former yet while he is a triple champion at the latter. :rolleyes:
Borg is getting surpassed when Djokovic wins #11 whether you like it or not.
 

tennis_pro

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Yeah, FO and Wimbly being the same now perfectly explains why Djokovic hasn't won the former yet while he is a triple champion at the latter. :rolleyes:
Borg is getting surpassed when Djokovic wins #11 whether you like it or not.

Because you say so?

Borg won all of his Slams in the 2 most prestigious Slams. Djokovic would have 6 out of his 11 at the AO which wasn't even considered a Slam not more than twenty something years ago. Gimme a break, Borg is greater than Djokovic still and by some margin no many how many AO's against Murray Djokovic wins.
 
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Not at all. It was bound to happen looking how both Federer and Nadal were in their primes a decade ago. The complete lack of competition is because it's skewing his record big time.

Nadal is 1 year older than Djokovic, if Novak was able to outlast him he deserves the spoils.
 

tennis_pro

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Nadal is 1 year older than Djokovic, if Novak was able to outlast him he deserves the spoils.

Nadal was taking on peak Federer as early as 2004 when Djokovic wasn't even on the tour yet. Neither Fed nor Nadal never had a period when there wasn't at least one of the big 3 playing well at the same time. Only Djokovic managed this in 2015 when Nadal's form dropped significantly and Federer's age started to show more as probably since 2013 he can't keep up with the best for more than 2,5 hours which affects him mentally.
 

Krish872007

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The prestige argument just doesn't cut it any more tbh. As amazing he was, Borg did not complete the CGS - he's no longer the record holder at a single Slam (Nadal surpassed him 4 years ago at RG). Even the 5 consecutive Wimbys were matched by Federer.
That said, I understand people will still rank Borg above other 11-time or even 12-time Slam winners. So Djokovic needs to win the French and 1 other Slam to be safe in this argument.
 
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Nadal was taking on peak Federer as early as 2004 when Djokovic wasn't even on the tour yet. Neither Fed nor Nadal never had a period when there wasn't at least one of the big 3 playing well at the same time. Only Djokovic managed this in 2015 when Nadal's form dropped significantly and Federer's age started to show more as probably since 2013 he can't keep up with the best for more than 2,5 hours which affects him mentally.

How about Djoko defeating a 25 year old Nadal coming off his only 3 slam season and who was reaching more finals than ever in 2011/early 2012? The Nadal who Fed could never handle, bad matchup or not... Djoko's game is very similar now, a touch better I'd say...
 

edberg volleys

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Back in the 70's/80's clay was clay and grass was grass. Nobody had a prayer to do well in both tournaments playing the same way. That's why Borg was a genius. He was the best baseliner out there at the French and then attacked the net a lot at Wimbledon. Is there any difference in Djokovic's play? No.
Great poast
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

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Because you say so?

Borg won all of his Slams in the 2 most prestigious Slams. Djokovic would have 6 out of his 11 at the AO which wasn't even considered a Slam not more than twenty something years ago. Gimme a break, Borg is greater than Djokovic still and by some margin no many how many AO's against Murray Djokovic wins.
No.

Yeah lets delete AOs Djokovic won because guys born before Christ didn't play there. Not to mention who Djokovic was beating there apart from Murray. :D
Djokovic has spent 4 years at the top spot and counting, has dozens of other Top Tier titles that Borg cannot even dream of having and is showing one of greatest ever consistencies at the career stage when "tennis sages" like yourself are expecting his decline. On the other hand, Borg spent 2 years on top and disappeared like a magician at 26 years of age. Yep, Borg greater, by some margin, sure. :rolleyes:
 

Fiero425

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No.

Yeah lets delete AOs Djokovic won because guys born before Christ didn't play there. Not to mention who Djokovic was beating there apart from Murray. :D
Djokovic has spent 4 years at the top spot and counting, has dozens of other Top Tier titles that Borg cannot even dream of having and is showing one of greatest ever consistencies at the career stage when "tennis sages" like yourself are expecting his decline. On the other hand, Borg spent 2 years on top and disappeared like a magician at 26 years of age. Yep, greater by some margin. :rolleyes:

But Borg's legend LIVES ON because he left and went into seclusion like Dietrich, Loren, & Garbo! He's the ultimate "rock star" in tennis without ever playing an instrument! He made Vitas, John, and rest cool just by taking a picture with him! lol! ;-)
 
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