Predict the future of the men’s game!
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Tennfan123
Legend
Nadal will win the slam race 23-22.
Rudd will be no 1 for three or four years and win 2 slams.
Alcaraz and Sinner will have a Becker Edberg type era with 5 or 6 slam each.
In five years, there will be a great reset. Best of 3 at slams and a fifth slam. The era will be called the Post Open era.
Rudd will be no 1 for three or four years and win 2 slams.
Alcaraz and Sinner will have a Becker Edberg type era with 5 or 6 slam each.
In five years, there will be a great reset. Best of 3 at slams and a fifth slam. The era will be called the Post Open era.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Neither Rafa nor Novak will surpass 23 slams and the debate about how was greater will continue for decades until someone eventually surpasses them.
Tragically I do think men's Grand slams will be reduced to best of 3 at some point which to me will devalue them and ruin tennis going forward.
Although as with everything nothing is forever, don't be surprised if they eventually go back to best of 5
Tragically I do think men's Grand slams will be reduced to best of 3 at some point which to me will devalue them and ruin tennis going forward.
Although as with everything nothing is forever, don't be surprised if they eventually go back to best of 5
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
If that happens, the old guard, like me, will stop giving importance to the Majors tournaments and they will be almost like another tournament on the circuit.
I hope that never materializes, it would be a tragedy.
graycrait
Legend
Tennis will become the new jai alai or maybe already has with online sports betting:
www.nytimes.com
Wall Street’s Favorite Sport Is a Failing Business (Published 2022)
Tennis may appear to be on a roll, with exciting young players and record ratings. But if it were a company, activist shareholders would have already called for a restructuring.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
I am convinced men's Slams will eventually move to Best of 3 and kill off tennis as we know it.
Before that happens, each of Novak / Rafa probably have 1 more Slam in them (at least)
Slams will get spread around between a host of other players until 2025 or 2026 when someone takes control and dominates, becoming the first person since the Big 3 to win 10+ Slams around 2030.
Before that happens, each of Novak / Rafa probably have 1 more Slam in them (at least)
Slams will get spread around between a host of other players until 2025 or 2026 when someone takes control and dominates, becoming the first person since the Big 3 to win 10+ Slams around 2030.
zvelf
Hall of Fame
More people believe Djokovic will eventually lead Nadal in the slam race. That makes sense. If Novak is banned from playing the AO and USO next year, then that scenario may be unlikely, but if Novak can play the hard court majors, that scenario seems much more likely. Nadal is one year older, his style of play depends more on his body staying healthy and spry, and he will be 37 by the next RG. With the rise of Alcaraz and Sinner as well as Nadal's body irrevocably declining, I think Nadal is likely done winning slams. Granted, next year may well be Djokovic's last great chance of winning majors before age catches up with him as well, but at worst, he is co-favorite to win at 3 out of the 4 majors.
Lleytonstation
Talk Tennis Guru
zvelf
Hall of Fame
So according to TTW, the most likely scenario to occur is that either Tsitsipas or Zverev will win at least 1 slam. I agree, although given all the hate these two get here, it’s slightly surprising. The second most likely scenario is that Alcaraz will win more than 6 slams. That would put him in ATG territory and outdistance him from the likes of Becker and Edberg. I agree with that too.
Tied for third is that Medvedev will win at least 2 more majors and an active American player will win at least 1 major. I agree those are likely as well. I have no idea which American will break through, but I do think that once Djokovic and Nadal are out of the picture, at least one American will have a good shot in some favorable draw. However, at least 24 people have voted so far and these only garner 11 votes, which means that at least a slight majority thinks these two scenarios won’t happen.
Tied for third is that Medvedev will win at least 2 more majors and an active American player will win at least 1 major. I agree those are likely as well. I have no idea which American will break through, but I do think that once Djokovic and Nadal are out of the picture, at least one American will have a good shot in some favorable draw. However, at least 24 people have voted so far and these only garner 11 votes, which means that at least a slight majority thinks these two scenarios won’t happen.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
Tennis will become the new jai alai or maybe already has with online sports betting:
Wall Street’s Favorite Sport Is a Failing Business (Published 2022)
Tennis may appear to be on a roll, with exciting young players and record ratings. But if it were a company, activist shareholders would have already called for a restructuring.
couldn't get behind paywall
could you summarize?
I'd appreciate it!
ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
I'm over the Big 3 personally, so the two I care about there have cemented themselves as GOATs, champions, and ambassadors of the sport. So if Fed doesn't do antyhing more, or Nadal doesn't do anything more, the history of their era is inline with those eras of the past.
I am more focused on who is next, and where that will play out. I think players like Sinner and Alcaraz have the brightest futures, with others grabbing titles and maybe slams along the way. I think that will take a few years to really flesh out as the overall level of tennis in the top 50 trenches is MUCH higher than we have seen in the past, but only a couple have really shined (again, Sinner, Alcz, and Med).
I think American tennis will break some of that prototypical player mould that is strangle holding them and we will see one stand-out in the next era, but it won't be anyone current, and maybe not even those in that pipeline. They really need to get WAY past the serve +1 mentality and get back to much more complete all-court players before it clicks.
I am more focused on who is next, and where that will play out. I think players like Sinner and Alcaraz have the brightest futures, with others grabbing titles and maybe slams along the way. I think that will take a few years to really flesh out as the overall level of tennis in the top 50 trenches is MUCH higher than we have seen in the past, but only a couple have really shined (again, Sinner, Alcz, and Med).
I think American tennis will break some of that prototypical player mould that is strangle holding them and we will see one stand-out in the next era, but it won't be anyone current, and maybe not even those in that pipeline. They really need to get WAY past the serve +1 mentality and get back to much more complete all-court players before it clicks.
ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
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This weekend is the climax of the U.S. Open, as Ons Jabeur and Iga Swiatek face off in the women’s final today and Casper Ruud plays Carlos Alcaraz for the men’s title tomorrow.
It is also Wall Street’s favorite spectator sports event — a place to see and be seen. The stands in Flushing Meadows, Queens, are filled with Wall Street titans and corporate America’s top executives. Presiding there is Jamie Dimon, chief executive of JPMorgan Chase, the Open’s top sponsor, feting clients who have flown in from Silicon Valley, Miami and practically everywhere in between. Bill Gates, a longtime tennis fan, regularly attends. Virtually every major Wall Street bank has a private suite or courtside seats for entertaining. Hedge fund magnates are also out in force, led by Bill Ackman, who is such a tennis fan that he built a court on the roof of his office and has personally sponsored players. And then there are the power players in attendance like Michelle Obama and Jon Bon Jovi who sat courtside Friday night. And yet the business of tennis — if judged by Wall Street standards — increasingly looks like a failing enterprise.
If it were a company, activist shareholders would have already descended, calling for a restructuring. In fact, some are — raising the prospect of a turnaround effort or else the risk that a competitor could emerge to steal tennis players the same way LIV Golf has sought to upend the PGA Tour. With the Open finals upon us, DealBook spoke with some of the top agents, financiers and insiders to capture the state of play for professional tennis, a business that has always been opaque and uneven. We started by getting a lay of the land from Matthew Futterman, a veteran sports journalist who covers tennis and the business behind it for The New York Times.
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
I am going to go over my choices:
-Djokovic and Nadal will wind up tied in slams. This is my gut feeling, so I picked that one.
-Alcarez will win more than 6 slams. Yes I think he will.
-Zverev or Tsitsipas will win a slam. Yes I think atleast 1 of them (more likely Zverev) will at some point. It is clear with the rise of Alcarez and the younger players, both of their days are numbered though.
-Auger, Shapapaolov (you did not mention him but I am adding him myself), Berretini, Ruud, Rublev, Norrie will combine for 0 slams. Yes I think they will.
I don't think any of the rest.
I don't think Medvedev will win more than 2 majors. I think he might win a 2nd at some point, but that is it, and I am not even sure of that anymore.
I don't think an American player will win a slam. Someone like Tiafoe could but I wouldn't bet on it. His best chance ever might have even been here honestly.
Don't think Federer is winning squat again, even smaller tournaments. Not sure he will even play another competitive tournament again.
Don't think Sinner will win 6 slams or more, no.
-Djokovic and Nadal will wind up tied in slams. This is my gut feeling, so I picked that one.
-Alcarez will win more than 6 slams. Yes I think he will.
-Zverev or Tsitsipas will win a slam. Yes I think atleast 1 of them (more likely Zverev) will at some point. It is clear with the rise of Alcarez and the younger players, both of their days are numbered though.
-Auger, Shapapaolov (you did not mention him but I am adding him myself), Berretini, Ruud, Rublev, Norrie will combine for 0 slams. Yes I think they will.
I don't think any of the rest.
I don't think Medvedev will win more than 2 majors. I think he might win a 2nd at some point, but that is it, and I am not even sure of that anymore.
I don't think an American player will win a slam. Someone like Tiafoe could but I wouldn't bet on it. His best chance ever might have even been here honestly.
Don't think Federer is winning squat again, even smaller tournaments. Not sure he will even play another competitive tournament again.
Don't think Sinner will win 6 slams or more, no.
topspin_forehand
Semi-Pro
I think slam race will end at 22-21-20.
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
Honestly I think this is possible too.
InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
South American slam, Middle East slam, or Asian slam?
zvelf
Hall of Fame
The article is about many things. One is that tennis is run by seven organizations: the four Grand Slam tournaments; the WTA tour for women; the ATP for men; and the International Tennis Federation, the world governing body, which oversees the Davis Cup and the Olympics and has some involvement with the Slams. There is a lot of overlap and overhead paying for a lot of redundant senior management. "An executive from BNP Paribas, probably the biggest sponsor of tennis in the world" said "I’m a banker, so I’m used to dealing with a lot of bureaucracy. But it’s a little like running a bank in the U.S.: You have to deal with the Fed and S.E.C. and F.D.I.C. and this whole alphabet soup of organizations. You can sort of justify it in banking, but in a sport do you really need all that bureaucracy?" Top 30 players make a great living while players outside the top 80 struggle just to break even. Matches that stretch past 2:00 a.m. are offputting to some fans. Tennis players are often paid more from sponsorships and endorsement deals than winning. Players often accept whatever deal is in front of them because “you never know if you’re going to be back in the winner circle again."
Tennfan123
Legend
I'd say Asian would be the preferred choice. There's money there, a huge market. Somewhere like Kuala Lumpar or Singapore. Any thoughts?
zvelf
Hall of Fame
Where is everyone getting the idea that slams will go to best of 3 for men? That's how slams differentiate themselves. Are quicker matches and more upsets of top players worth changing that?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Fun poll.
Even though I chose only one option.
Even though I chose only one option.
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