Prediction: Alexander Zverev will be the second player in tennis history to complete the Golden Masters

[UnforcedTerror]

Yup, you heard here first as they say. Recently I saw none stopping Zed from the Olympic Gold and I was right.

Now I feel like Zed can never fail me, none is stopping the Golden boy from the Masters Gold.

So far, he has won 2/3 clay masters and 2/6 hard masters, and none of the next 5 masters, IW, Paris, IW, Miam and Monte Carlo, I hope he can get one or two of them and the rest will come in the future.

As much as I wan Med to do it I don't see him winning all of the clay masters but Zed is great on clay and hard so it begins..

4 down, 5 to gooooooo

 

[tsurismo5]

Idk I could see him randomly struggling at IW a la murray.

 

[Deleted member 771911]

I don't think so. This is one of the weakest eras ever and he's a huge choker. Once the guys around him and below step up that'll be it for Zod.

 

[NoleIsBoat]

Hope so! I think Zverev is destined to be an ATG, which makes it even more incredible how Djokovic keeps winning slams in this new era

 

[Raul_SJ]

The Little Three: Med, Zed, and Tsitsi.
Will win 30 plus Slams.

 

[Raul_SJ]

Yup, you heard here first as they say. Recently I saw none stopping Zed from the Olympic Gold and I was right.

Now I feel like Zed can never fail me, none is stopping the Golden boy from the Masters Gold.

So far, he has won 2/3 clay masters and 2/6 hard masters, and none of the next 5 masters, IW, Paris, IW, Miam and Monte Carlo, I hope he can get one or two of them and the rest will come in the future.

As much as I wan Med to do it I don't see him winning all of the clay masters but Zed is great on clay and hard so it begins..

4 down, 5 to gooooooo

What is a "Golden Masters"?
Win all nine Masters AND Olympic Gold?
No man has ever done that. Zed could be the first.

 

[Villain]

This thread needs an obligatory ABZ post.

 

[SardinesForDinner]

Hope so! I think Zverev is destined to be an ATG, which makes it even more incredible how Djokovic keeps winning slams in this new era

lol

 

[Jokervich]

I love how there's no inbetween with TTW. It's either X player will win golden masters/golden CYGS or X player is finished.

 

[nolefam_2024]

He won't struggle anywhere. He is also complete player like Nole. Only weakness is mentality. Zverev will win C golden masters. He is capable of winning C grand slam as well.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

4 down, 5 to gooooooo

Medvedev is on the same boat as well: 4 down, 5 to go.

A few U23 players (Shapovalov, Ruud, FAA, Sinner) are going to improve soon, so collecting M1000 titles will not be as easy as it looks now.

 

[Aabye5]

I can certainly see why you say this -- because he can play on all surfaces. Just not sure he can beat the best on all surfaces.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Medvedev is on the same boat as well: 4 down, 5 to go.

A few U23 players (Shapovalov, Ruud, FAA, Sinner) are going to improve soon, so collecting M1000 titles will not be as easy as it looks now.

Medvedev like Andy Murray will struggle on clay.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

I love how there's no inbetween with TTW. It's either X player will win golden masters/golden CYGS or X player is finished.

Aleksanteri Zvereven is Finnish, isn't he?

 

[BeatlesFan]

This thread needs an obligatory ABZ post.

For whatever reason, our numbers seem to be shrinking.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Medvedev like Andy Murray will struggle on clay.

Murray made a French Open final. Nobody who does that is a poor clay player. He also beat Nadal in the Madrid final (admittedly 2015, Rafa's lousiest year).

 

[Pheasant]

Zverev has beaten some solid players en route to his Masters titles. But for Zverev, these were still some good wins.
2017 Rome title: beat Fognini, Raonic, Isner, and Djoker in order to win the title. That's a solid effort, even though Djoker wasn't at his best.
2017 Canadian Open title: beat Kyrgios, Kandy, Shapo, and Federer in order. Now granted, Federer injured his back in that match. But again, that was a solid effort
2018 Madrid title: beat Isner, Shapo, and Thiem in order, all in straight sets. That's a very solid effort
2021 Madrid: beat Nadal, Thiem, and Berrettini in order. This again was a solid effort, even though Nadal was nursing a bad foot.
2021 Cinci: beat Ruud, Tsitsipas, and Rublev in order to win the title. This again is a solid effort.

That's a lot of top 10 guys that he put away; many in straight sets.

I think that he has it in him to when the Golden boxed set of Masters + ATP finals.

I think that Zverev's most impressive run was at the year-end tourney in 2018. He beat Federer and Djoker back-to-back(semis and final); both in straight sets to win the title. Djoker destroyed his opponents along the way by making the final without dropping a set before losing in straight sets to Zverev. Federer played fairly well(except that dud against Nishi) to make the semis.

Of course, this is the best of 3 setup, which is what the OP is talking about. Zverev is very dangerous in Best of 3 matches.

 

[ollinger]

His future is ahead of him

 

[BGod]

I think IW-MI will be hardest for him and it depends how focused he is on Paris. Also assuming Shanghai resumes next year right?

I doubt he ever accomplishes Sunshine Double so 2 separate seasons for those. I think Tsitsipas or a random takes IW this year.

 

[Villain]

For whatever reason, our numbers seem to be shrinking.

I have no doubts that Zverev will do something soon that will rekindle our cause and increase membership numbers.

 

[Krish0608]

This Zverev hype train is in for a bad derailment

 

[nolefam_2024]

This Zverev hype train is in for a bad derailment

Don't think so buddy. Look at entire 2021. He has lost just because of his own mistakes and to good players. Novak in Australia who was in god mode serving, Tsitsipas in RG was very close and Zverev could literally have finished it in 3 and then that FAA match was disaster but he was playing outside of show courts on windy day and wind really messed up his ball toss.

He has won 2 masters by great play, yesterday Rublev couldn't even do anything it felt like Zverev was playing alone. And same thing in Olympics. He is in zone entire year and has been figuring out his mentality. Once that is done, the results will come out in droves.

 

[Krish0608]

Don't think so buddy. Look at entire 2021. He has lost just because of his own mistakes and to good players. Novak in Australia who was in god mode serving, Tsitsipas in RG was very close and Zverev could literally have finished it in 3 and then that FAA match was disaster but he was playing outside of show courts on windy day and wind really messed up his ball toss.

He has won 2 masters by great play, yesterday Rublev couldn't even do anything it felt like Zverev was playing alone. And same thing in Olympics. He is in zone entire year and has been figuring out his mentality. Once that is done, the results will come out in droves.

At RG, Tsitsipas was up 2-0 and went on a mental walkabout, allowing Zverev to come back. I would say this eventually cost Tsitsipas the title as well. Zverev’s Cincinnati title is impressive, but let’s not forget, he was saved by a pathetic Tsitsi choke yet again. They were dead even. And Zverev is yet to prove himself in BO5. He does not have a Top 10 win yet in a GS. That’s pretty pathetic to be honest. Let him beat the Big guys in slams, then we can hype him up.

 

[nolefam_2024]

At RG, Tsitsipas was up 2-0 and went on a mental walkabout, allowing Zverev to come back. I would say this eventually cost Tsitsipas the title as well. Zverev’s Cincinnati title is impressive, but let’s not forget, he was saved by a pathetic Tsitsi choke yet again. They were dead even. And Zverev is yet to prove himself in BO5. He does not have a Top 10 win yet in a GS. That’s pretty pathetic to be honest. Let him beat the Big guys in slams, then we can hype him up.

Zverev will dominate Tsitsipas on hard courts. Even though he was feeling sick and Tsitsipas does cheat all the time, he got the win. Imagine what will happen when they face next. I don't want them to face on hard courts since they can only meet in the finals but if both do, would be backing up Zverev.

 

[Krish0608]

Zverev will dominate Tsitsipas on hard courts. Even though he was feeling sick and Tsitsipas does cheat all the time, he got the win. Imagine what will happen when they face next. I don't want them to face on hard courts since they can only meet in the finals but if both do, would be backing up Zverev.

We’ll see. If it’s a slam, no way Zverev is winning. He might dominate in BO3 though.

 

[nolefam_2024]

We’ll see. If it’s a slam, no way Zverev is winning. He might dominate in BO3 though.

Let's see. The Zverev slam bad losses is thing of the past. Last year he was 2 pts away from title. He is much different player now..

 

[nolefam_2024]

 

[guga_fan]

Zverev will dominate Tsitsipas on hard courts. Even though he was feeling sick and Tsitsipas does cheat all the time, he got the win. Imagine what will happen when they face next. I don't want them to face on hard courts since they can only meet in the finals but if both do, would be backing up Zverev.

That I find hard to believe unless Tsitsipas starts to regress. He has the forehand to move Zverev consistently and surprisingly reads the German's serve very well. Zverev will get wins against him on HC, but I would bet on it happening less than half the times they meet.

 

[nolefam_2024]

That I find hard to believe unless Tsitsipas starts to regress. He has the forehand to move Zverev consistently and surprisingly reads the German's serve very well. Zverev will get wins against him on HC, but I would bet on it happening less than half the times they meet.

Zverev movement is incredible for his height. What Tsitsipas needs to beat him is maybe a better slice backhand. Sascha is going to absolutely abuse that wing.

 

[Krish0608]

That I find hard to believe unless Tsitsipas starts to regress. He has the forehand to move Zverev consistently and surprisingly reads the German's serve very well. Zverev will get wins against him on HC, but I would bet on it happening less than half the times they meet.

This. Right from the second set, Tsitsipas was returning Zverev’s serves similar to how Federer used to return Roddick. Blocking those serves back with lots of depth. I have never seen Tsitsipas read a big server that well. Zverev definitely deserved this win, because he hung in there and finished strong and Tsitsi did not close the deal when should have. But the match was awfully close. 105-105 in terms of points won. Let’s not pretend like Zverev has some massive edge over Tsitsipas because of this one win.

 

[guga_fan]

Zverev movement is incredible for his height. What Tsitsipas needs to beat him is maybe a better slice backhand. Sascha is going to absolutely abuse that wing.

Of course Tsitsipas backhand can be better, but it was not his problem yesterday. His problem was just finishing the job. A better slice would be more useful in the matchup against Medvedev, I think, but variety is always good.

 

[BrooklynNY]

I thought this after this weekend's performance.

If he fixes his serve to be more accurate, and his forehand to be more a weapon - he can and will win everything there is to win.

 

[Hitman]

Well, who knows. He does seem the most likely candidate for it, as he is quite comfortable on all surfaces.

 

[duaneeo]

At RG, Tsitsipas was up 2-0 and went on a mental walkabout, allowing Zverev to come back. I would say this eventually cost Tsitsipas the title as well. Zverev’s Cincinnati title is impressive, but let’s not forget, he was saved by a pathetic Tsitsi choke yet again.

Not a true narrative. It was Zverev who was being called a 'mug' and 'choker' during the match. He won the first set decisively, but then allowed himself to get rattled by Tsitsipas' gamesmanship. It did appear he had blown it once down two breaks in the decider, but he righted the ship.

 

[Hitman]

Not a true narrative. It was Zverev who was being called a 'mug' and 'choker' during the match. He won the first set decisively, but then allowed himself to get rattled by Tsitsipas' gamesmanship. It did appear he had blown it once down two breaks in the decider, but he righted the ship.

Agree with the everything but not the bold. He didn't right the ship, Tsitsipas starting DF and missing balls he shouldn't have and basically returned the choke back to Zverev, who then used that to win. Saying it was all Zverev righting the ship is just little too much to one side.

 

[Tennisfan339]

I think 1 or 2 Masters like maybe IW or MC will resist him. Winning the 10 Masters (WTF + 9 Masters1000) is very tough, that's why Nadal and Federer have always struggled in 2 or 3 of them.

At the same time If one active player (other than Djokovic) can do it, I'd also put my money on Zverev. Medvedev can win maybe 1 Clay Masters but winning the 3 seems impossible, unless he makes a 360 on this surface. Tsitsipas still underperforms in way too many Masters and now he only has 1.

 

[Tennisfan339]

I love how there's no inbetween with TTW. It's either X player will win golden masters/golden CYGS or X player is finished.

Yep lol. Last week Medvedev wins Toronto and I read he will beat the Slam record and win 25 slams.
This week Zverev wins and people already think he will win everything forever. Too funny.

 

[King No1e]

Huge difference between having the potential to win everything and actually winning everything.
Lendl could've won Wimbledon, Murray could've won AO, etc.

 

[Kralingen]

Everything will be possible in the Rublev era.

 

[Hitman]

Everything will be possible in the Rublev era.

You mean 12th century Russia?

 

[The Fedfather]

His manner of speaking actually reminded me of Federer in pressers. The way he goes a bit more in depth on each question, is really measured in his responses, gives praise to other players when he has a chance. He really looked up to Federer.

 

[duaneeo]

Agree with the everything but not the bold. He didn't right the ship, Tsitsipas starting DF and missing balls he shouldn't have and basically returned the choke back to Zverev, who then used that to win. Saying it was all Zverev righting the ship is just little too much to one side.

Fine, so they were all even going into the tiebreak. There, Zverev did right the ship. He didn't simply sit back and limp his way to the win.

 

[Hitman]

Fine, so they were all even going into the tiebreak. There, Zverev did right the ship. He didn't simply sit back and limp his way to the win.

That's better, the choking was back and forth until the tie-break, where Zverev was indeed the better player.

 

[duaneeo]

Medvedev is on the same boat as well: 4 down, 5 to go.

No way will Medvedev win all three clay Masters. One of them perhaps, but not all three.

Zverev can definitely win the five Masters missing from his resume.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

No way will Medvedev win all three clay Masters. One of them perhaps, but not all three.

Why not?
As an underdog he defeated Tsitsipas in M-C 2 years ago. He was impressive at RG this year dropping just one set on his road to the QF.
He's got the game to do it. Plenty of time left.

 

[Raul_SJ]

This Zverev hype train is in for a bad derailment

His serve will only get better. And it is already one of the very best. His volleys suck but that will greatly improve too. His Olympic Gold has lifted his mental game. Will that be enough in a best of five in NYC versus Djoker? Probably not yet.
But the future is looking very bright for our Zed.

 

[nolefam_2024]

His manner of speaking actually reminded me of Federer in pressers. The way he goes a bit more in depth on each question, is really measured in his responses, gives praise to other players when he has a chance. He really looked up to Federer.

Yeah. Sad that he might be an abuser. But I don't convict him unless proven.

But press conferences and speech wise, he is the best among under 30 and great asset to the sport.

 

[nolefam_2024]

I thought this after this weekend's performance.

If he fixes his serve to be more accurate, and his forehand to be more a weapon - he can and will win everything there is to win.

He is capable of winning all 9 masters and 4 slams.

 

[nolefam_2024]

His serve will only get better. And it is already one of the very best. His volleys suck but that will greatly improve too. His Olympic Gold has lifted his mental game. Will that be enough in a best of five in NYC versus Djoker? Probably not yet.
But the future is looking very bright for our Zed.

Don't think his net game is very bad. He has better than average net game and wing span is huge..

 

[T007]

Hope so! I think Zverev is destined to be an ATG, which makes it even more incredible how Djokovic keeps winning slams in this new era

Destined to choke in slams....0-12 against top 10 in slams. Atleast lost 6 of those on his own.

He should win a slam by beating Med/Tsitsi or any of big 3 to prove that he is capable of being an ATG. Until that I don't trust his instincts