Prediction: Nadal will Retire.

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Correct me if I'm wrong: Nadal debuted at 17, played about 6 months, beating
Federer, and sidelined for nearly 1 year with injury. And then he came back and
won his first French, right?
 
ultradr said:
Correct me if I'm wrong: Nadal debuted at 17, played about 6 months, beating
Federer, and sidelined for nearly 1 year with injury. And then he came back and
won his first French, right?
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Lightning never strikes the same spot twice.

His knees can only hold up so long before they crack.
 
vernonbc said:
Funny, I heard from a number of Thai people, and people from several other Asian countries that went to Thailand just to see Rafa, that he was wonderful with the fans and talked to them a lot and signed autographs and had pictures taken with them. Go search the archives at Nadal News and you'll find all sorts of stories from ecstatic fans.
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Mistik is just a Rafa hating troll, lying out of his teeth.

Hi Crisstti. You're right that at the presser where he talked about the Hoffa's syndrome he did say his tendons were fine. 'Fine' is probably relative. His tendons will never be fine as he has caused too much damage to them and there is too much scar tissue built up but the treatments he has had have gotten them into relatively good shape. It's my understanding that the small tear was discovered after they managed to reduce the inflammation from the fatty pad impingement although Tio Toni said the fat has hardened so treatment is going more slowly than they had hoped.

I don't claim to know a lot about medicine but I read a lot and from personal experience I know a fair bit about athletes and their bodies and I do know that pros put their bodies through stresses that normal bodies aren't meant to be put through. It doesn't surprise me a bit when the medical experts aren't able to immediately diagnose problems and give definitive information, not just about Rafa but about most other tennis players either, e.g. Monfils' knee, Del Potro's wrist, Hewitt's foot problems. Hopefully, for instance, Delpo's wrist will be good after two weeks of immobilization but if it's not, I don't think either he or his doctors will be criticized and ridiculed and held up for intense scrutiny like Rafa has been.
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No, of course they won't.

I doubt the tear was discovered after the press conference. If it was like that what was Toni talking about when he said the injury had happened during Wimbledon?. Plus, it seemed like they were not really telling everything since Rafa was saying he would change the amount of tournaments he would play and which tournaments to play if he had to, while his doctor was saying the Hoffa's syndrome wasn't anything serious... I do guess that going by the fact that he was trying to see if he could play the Olympics maybe they didn't know about the tear then, because it would have been insane to play them like that. Who knows really.

Crazy isn't it? If it's negative garbage it's fine. If it's positive hope, it's time to call people names. :rolleyes:
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Yep, it is crazy.
 
ultradr said:
Correct me if I'm wrong: Nadal debuted at 17, played about 6 months, beating
Federer, and sidelined for nearly 1 year with injury. And then he came back and
won his first French, right?
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No, I don't think that's right. He debuted younger than that, he had already beaten Costa (I think) and Moya in 2002 or 2003.
The injury he had in early 2004 sidelined him for the clay and grass season ,but it must have been much less than a year. I don't think that more than three months.
 
I just want Rafa to get fit and healthy and return to the tour it is boring without him. I won't post my doom and gloom anymore everybody. I was just airing my fears. I adore Rafa and I am scared about his future. No need to shoot me down. I am upset and scared about my favourite player ever!
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
I'm not usually a betting man (I make enough money in my life to last me another 80 years at least), but I already bet some money on Bet365, on Nadal to win Australian Open 2013.
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Cool story.

I bet Nadal won't win the Australian Open, and If I'm wrong I'll leave the boards. You're confident enough you should be able to bet the same thing.
 
Cup8489 said:
Cool story.

I bet Nadal won't win the Australian Open, and If I'm wrong I'll leave the boards. You're confident enough you should be able to bet the same thing.
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No, I only bet for money, not meaningless forum posting privileges. I also only bet with 100% trustworthy registered gambling companies.
 
RF20Lennon said:
And I will end year as #1 with a wimby and a USO in 2013 :D
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Not sure if you actually think you're Federer (which wouldn't surprise me as lots of arrogant Federer fans wish they were him), or if you're actually referring to yourself (both are impossible by the way).
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
Not sure if you actually think you're Federer (which wouldn't surprise me as lots of arrogant Federer fans wish they were him), or if you're actually referring to yourself (both are impossible by the way).
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If nadal wins the Aussie next year I'm a lock for those 3!! ;)
 
I think Nadal might win a couple more slams if he takes good care of his body. Don't think he will ever be #1 again, though, since he will probably take a lot of time off.
 
As I said after 2009, Rafa should only play the Masters 1000s and slams. No exhibitions, Davis Cup etc. Rafa cannot play all these matches as he used to. All those matches in his early days have left lasting damage. And he is adding to the strain on his body everytime he plays. Rafa must take extra good care of his body when he returns. I want another 2-3 year of Rafa.
 
Well, the type of game he plays, is simply not sustainable. That's why he has injuries already. Look at light footed Federer, he is over 30 and still going strong. I'd hate to see him retire (Nadal) but I'm convinced he will finish his career earlier than most top players in average. I'm not betting when that's gonna be but even if he comes out of this one, there will be another one and another one. Eventually he'll have to quit.
 
vil said:
Well, the type of game he plays, is simply not sustainable. That's why he has injuries already. Look at light footed Federer, he is over 30 and still going strong. I'd hate to see him retire (Nadal) but I'm convinced he will finish his career earlier than most top players in average. I'm not betting when that's gonna be but even if he comes out of this one, there will be another one and another one. Eventually he'll have to quit.
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We must enjoy Rafa while he is around as there will never be another Rafael Nadal!
 
Crisstti said:
No, I don't think that's right. He debuted younger than that, he had already beaten Costa (I think) and Moya in 2002 or 2003.
The injury he had in early 2004 sidelined him for the clay and grass season ,but it must have been much less than a year. I don't think that more than three months.
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You are right. It looks like he debuted at 14-17 playing satelite tournaments.

He sidedlined during clay and grass seasons, which is most important
part of full season( at least for him ) and i think that's pretty much 1 year
worth.

So I think it's regularly happening thruout his career and too early to tell
he is nearing retirement.
 
That's true but wouldn't look at it that way. These top guys are all unique in some respect. There will be time when they all retire but new talents of a different kind will emerge, which is exciting.
You gotta love tennis.
 
ultradr said:
You are right. It looks like he debuted at 14-17 playing satelite tournaments.

He sidedlined during clay and grass seasons, which is most important
part of full season( at least for him ) and i think that's pretty much 1 year
worth.

So I think it's regularly happening thruout his career and too early to tell
he is nearing retirement.
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That 2004 injury wasn't a chronic problem though. I think he's been having chronic problems since 2007 at last anyway, so for a long time indeed.
 
I don't see why Nadal would want to retire!?
He just won a French Open before his break in a dominant way others can only dream of.
If there's any chance he still likes to play tennis, he will continue. Probably not before the AO13 but he will.
 
kOaMaster said:
I don't see why Nadal would want to retire!?
He just won a French Open before his break in a dominant way others can only dream of.
If there's any chance he still likes to play tennis, he will continue. Probably not before the AO13 but he will.
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Well, he has already said twice (or 3 times) that his main goal is the 2016 Olympics. Uncle Toni even came out and said "Rafa will be playing the 2016 Olympics." The only people that mentioned retirement are those scared of Nadal.
 
kOaMaster said:
I don't see why Nadal would want to retire!?
He just won a French Open before his break in a dominant way others can only dream of.
If there's any chance he still likes to play tennis, he will continue. Probably not before the AO13 but he will.
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The only people who would want Rafa to retire, are the scarDy cat fans of Federer (the ******* type), because they pee in their pants when they see Rafa playing Fed, especially during GS.
 
kOaMaster said:
I don't see why Nadal would want to retire!?
He just won a French Open before his break in a dominant way others can only dream of.
If there's any chance he still likes to play tennis, he will continue. Probably not before the AO13 but he will.
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There is still plenty for Nadal to achieve, such as becoming the first male player to win a slam 8 times, amongst numerous other records he could aim for. As long as Nadal is motivated, he can't really be stopped (obviously- see 2010).
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
There is still plenty for Nadal to achieve, such as becoming the first male player to win a slam 8 times, amongst numerous other records he could aim for. As long as Nadal is motivated, he can't really be stopped (obviously- see 2010).
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Pretty sure Nadal was motivated for most of 2011 as well (up until the US Open, at least). Look how that turned out.
 
SQA333 said:
Pretty sure Nadal was motivated for most of 2011 as well (up until the US Open, at least). Look how that turned out.
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Nadal made the final of Wimbledon and US Open in 2011. If he made those 2 finals it would mean he's made all 4 slam finals in 2012. That would probably give him the number one ranking.
 
SQA333 said:
Pretty sure Nadal was motivated for most of 2011 as well (up until the US Open, at least). Look how that turned out.
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Yep, it still ensured that he performed far better than Federer did at those events, and had one of his best first halves of a year in 2012.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
There is still plenty for Nadal to achieve, such as becoming the first male player to win a slam 8 times, amongst numerous other records he could aim for. As long as Nadal is motivated, he can't really be stopped (obviously- see 2010).
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Depends on how motivated Rosol is.
 
6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
There is still plenty for Nadal to achieve, such as becoming the first male player to win a slam 8 times, amongst numerous other records he could aim for. As long as Nadal is motivated, he can't really be stopped (obviously- see 2010).
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is that so... lets look at some highlights of that year....

R16 Jurgen Melzer (AUT) 12 L 1-6, 6-3, 3-6

S Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) 26 L 6-3, 4-6, 6-7(1) Stats

Q Feliciano Lopez (ESP) 31 L 6-7(5), 4-6 Stats

Q Marcos Baghdatis (CYP) 20 L 4-6, 6-4, 4-6 Stats

wow... who are those monsters there...
 
nadal needs to chaage his game to adapt to the new type of tennis to beat the rosols of this world he cant rely on just moonballing anymore thats why i believe rosol would beat nadal at wim13 and crush him 61 6 3 6 0 at the us open as that is even faster
 
R.Federer said:
nadal needs to chaage his game to adapt to the new type of tennis to beat the rosols of this world he cant rely on just moonballing anymore thats why i believe rosol would beat nadal at wim13 and crush him 61 6 3 6 0 at the us open as that is even faster
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I think Nadal would be encouraged that Rosol played his absolute best and still needed a 6-4 fifth set to win. Highly unlikely Rosol will ever play that well again, therefore highly unlikely he will ever beat Nadal again. Reminds me of Soderling-

2011 Roland Garros
Nadal defeated Soderling 6-4, 6-1, 7-6(3)

2010 Wimbledon
Nadal defeated Soderling 3-6, 6-3, 7-6(4), 6-1

2010 Roland Garros
Nadal defeated Soderling 6-4, 6-2, 6-4
 
R.Federer said:
nadal needs to chaage his game to adapt to the new type of tennis to beat the rosols of this world he cant rely on just moonballing anymore thats why i believe rosol would beat nadal at wim13 and crush him 61 6 3 6 0 at the us open as that is even faster
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This entire post is R-U-B-B-I-S-H. It's just beyond ridiculous and just plain silly.
 
tennisMVP said:
I think Nadal would be encouraged that Rosol played his absolute best and still needed a 6-4 fifth set to win. Highly unlikely Rosol will ever play that well again, therefore highly unlikely he will ever beat Nadal again. Reminds me of Soderling-

2011 Roland Garros
Nadal defeated Soderling 6-4, 6-1, 7-6(3)

2010 Wimbledon
Nadal defeated Soderling 3-6, 6-3, 7-6(4), 6-1

2010 Roland Garros
Nadal defeated Soderling 6-4, 6-2, 6-4
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is soderling, rosol in disguise i dont think so he serves bigger than robin hits flater than him and can move better, rosol is the new futue of tennis like roanic
 
tennisMVP said:
Or in your case "I must enjoy hating Rafael Nadal, because I will never hate anyone more than Rafael Nadal".
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I love Rafa! Have no idea why you think I hate him. I am just scared with this long break. I travel around the world just to see Rafa play and wait for him at tournaments for hours. Would I do that If I didn't love him? You have confused some of my posts for something else. It is love for Rafa and insecurity that his amazing journey is at a standstill at the mo.
 
Clarky21 said:
This entire post is R-U-B-B-I-S-H. It's just beyond ridiculous and just plain silly.
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Note the content of his post- he mentions the 6-1 6-3 6-0 scoreline. So insecure is he about that loss to Federer, on one of the biggest stages in tennis (a grand slam final, not a pathetic round-robin match), that he can't help but mention it sub-consciously.
 
Ms Nadal said:
I love Rafa! Have no idea why you think I hate him. I am just scared with this long break. I travel around the world just to see Rafa play and wait for him at tournaments for hours. Would I do that If I didn't love him? You have confused some of my posts for something else. It is love for Rafa and insecurity that his amazing journey is at a standstill at the mo.
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Why do I feel this is xisca! :twisted:
 
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