Prediction: Thiem for #1

Fate of the number one ranking


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Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Does this mean you're on the Thiem train Sysy?:giggle: Its time for the Thiemerer bases to unit to protect the GOAT's 20 slam count? Thiem's new clay game means no easy RG's for Nadal unlike the last 14.:whistle:
Thiem has always been among my favored players. Not about protecting the Golden Goose, more about needing some fresh Blood (Diamonds).

But this thread is just dispassionate forecasting, nothing to do with fandom8-B



ok, might be a bit of a heat of the moment kind of thing.
 

DerekNoleFam1

Hall of Fame
Definitely a shout, even after the loss to Djoker.
Needs to start piling on the points from Rome on.
His win at IW showed he is no mug on hard courts.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
Is the race still on?

Thiem certainly doing a necessary part of the job in now making big finals off clay, consecutively at the WTF and AO. But he'll need both a good sunshine swing and top clay season to get there, you would think.

If he were to surprise us and get the win on Sunday, he'd be almost precisely 1500 points behind Ralph and 1000 + change behind Noel. Momentum would be on side in terms of bridging that gap at some point. In the likelier event that he loses, Nolé will surely be too far ahead in this time frame.
 

BGod

Legend
Thiem has been the safe bet for next new #1. I think it happens next year around USO. He's not consistent enough now to overtake Novak. He has a title to defend in IW now
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
I say the Austrian sensation will get his hands on the #1 ranking. By Roland Garros 2020, that is.

Djokovic's once so supreme consistency isn't quite the same, Nadal is never healthy for long, Federer is a pensioner and part-time tennis tourist, Next Is Not Here.

Thiem is now capable of winning big titles on hard courts as well as clay; now that Nadal is losing his clay grip, there will be heaps of points potentially there for the taking for Thiem this season and the next; and he has the motivation and physical resources to play forty 250 tournaments a season if need be.

However, Novak Djokovic will nevertheless manage to break the record for weeks at #1.

What say ye? Who will be next player to ascend to #1 of our sport? And when?



@Meles, give me a beat
At some point in his career, maybe. By 2020 RG? If you didn't correctly predict 2011, you should now. Hint.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
I say the Austrian sensation will get his hands on the #1 ranking. By Roland Garros 2020, that is.

Djokovic's once so supreme consistency isn't quite the same, Nadal is never healthy for long, Federer is a pensioner and part-time tennis tourist, Next Is Not Here.

Thiem is now capable of winning big titles on hard courts as well as clay; now that Nadal is losing his clay grip, there will be heaps of points potentially there for the taking for Thiem this season and the next; and he has the motivation and physical resources to play forty 250 tournaments a season if need be.

However, Novak Djokovic will nevertheless manage to break the record for weeks at #1.

What say ye? Who will be next player to ascend to #1 of our sport? And when?



@Meles, give me a beat
Mate I'm not sure if this one of those cases of 'trolling but prescient anyway'
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
Nothing really trolly about this thread.

Out a bit on a limb maybe, but I only made it because I thought there was a very genuine chance it might materialize.

I'd say the odds are still stacked against it however, but if Thiem wins on Sunday, the race is very much on.
Fair enough.

The hunt is on.

Buenos Aires is the way
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
Forgot about this one. I voted yes by RG20. It's tight, but he has a chance if he can win on Sunday. Thiem is 7-2 against Fedalovic in 2019. Shocker, but this means that he is ready.
 

oldmanfan

Hall of Fame
I'd love that to happen, but he is almost a no force on low bounce surfaces
Thiem showing some promise in this regard lately.
Correct. I just noticed an interesting stat. Thiem alone beats results from Fedalovic combined in the last 2 big tourneys with low-ish bounce (WTF19, AO20), upto AO20 finals. AND he's beaten each of the Big3 :eek:.

Thiem = F, F
Fedalovic = SF, F
 
Correct. I just noticed an interesting stat. Thiem alone beats results from Fedalovic combined in the last 2 big tourneys with low-ish bounce (WTF19, AO20), upto AO20 finals. AND he's beaten each of the Big3 :eek:.

Thiem = F, F
Fedalovic = SF, F
Yeah, the Howitzer Death Cannon is finding its target more often from different angles... Great to see.
 

Red Rick

Talk Tennis Guru
maybe stick to your cherry-pickers galore threads maybe

This is a thread about Thiem and not another let's-take-digs-at-Fed thread.
When world hunger threatens to take us all we must take all the cherries we can get.

Until such time, let's stick to TIMMY
 

joekapa

Legend
Thiem will win a slams, no doubt, but I don't think he will be the dominating force once Fed, Djoko, and Nadal retire. He is 26, which is like being 40 in normal years. I think the dominating forces will end up being from an earlier age bracket.
 
Thiem still needs to be more consistent in Slams.

Look at his track record on Slams last year. Sure, he reaches the final in the French Open.

But then it's 1R in the OA, USO and Wim. Losses against Popyrin, Querrey and Fabbiano.

If he wants to be #1 or even in the top-3, he'll need more consistency.

He's also way too irregular in M000. He wins IW but then he loses early in Miami. He reaches the SF in Madrid but loses in the 1st round in Rome. Good perf in Canada and Shanghai, but early loss in Bercy and Cinci.

If he can keep this level in more tournaments, then he will have a chance to compete for the #1.
 

Nadal_King

Semi-Pro
If thiem wins on Sunday, I think he finishes no 1 this year with rg and us open to come he surely will be in contention for more grand slam glory.
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
He'll have some heavy lifting to do in order to reach that mark. I'd say he'd have to pull off the upset and dethrone Djokovic in the AO final, but even that would only raise him up to #3 in the world. He still has an IW title to defend, plus an RG '19 final appearance. That's quite a lot of points to defend in just 2 events.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
So this one goes to the short list?
The prediction is very unlikely to turn out correct within the suggested time frame now, yes.

But it isn't quite the RG yet, so you should probably mark a date in May in your calendar so that you can remember to gloat when it's fully justified instead of this premature discharge;)
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
The prediction is very unlikely to turn out correct within the suggested time frame now, yes.

But it isn't quite the RG yet, so you should probably mark a date in May in your calendar so that you can remember to gloat when it's fully justified instead of this premature discharge;)
So your whole thread is a premature discharge? Could have been worse.
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
So your whole thread is a premature discharge? Could have been worse.
it's this odd thing that is often called a 'prediction', not sure whether you're familiar with the concept. If you didn't notice, the thread was made back in the spring of 2019, not before this AO final.
 
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