Prestige Mid!

John

Semi-Pro
Cool!!

I still have an old pair of Prestige mids from the Liquidmetal generation. I rarely use them anymore, but I don't want to get rid of them either. These were very NOT good for me in their stock layout - already rather hefty, but only perhaps 5-6 pts. HL balance. A lot of lead tape went onto the handles to get a balance that felt more familiar for me and I ended up with 13.4 oz. and a balance of 11 pts. HL.

These became my trainers at a time when I very much needed to retool my ground strokes. Racquets like these don't let us get away with using late stroke preparation or arming the ball for very long, so my first outings with these on the practice grinder were humbling. I stuck with it though, and these caveman clubs eventually helped me to become a much better player.

One or two of the kids I'm coaching right now are at a point where they're getting bigger and stronger, but using late setups and too much arm to hit the ball too often. We actually talked about maybe trying these Prestiges soon for a practice hit just to see what might be revealed. Should be interesting.
Thumbs up!
 

John

Semi-Pro
The mid 600 prestige lines are superb and easier to swing because it’s a bit larger and lighter than PS85. If winning is absolutely first priority, maybe a Yonex duel g Hg( orange) or the latest VCORE pro 330 would help to win a game.

However, if the feeling of the feed back of the ball is more important. If you want to enjoy the sensation of hiting each every ball, the mid 600 is a wise choice and each generation give a different flavor. They all have nice control.
The IG is really powerless. Even strung at 53, it require tremendous power to drive. It is only usable for me when condition is right. However, the control is still out there.

The liquid metal on the other side, give more and pleasant power. The vibration on the frame give a unique and good feed back. It’s a joy to hit.

The classic mid give an ultra solid feed back. It strike the ball with no comparison. Head really went brain dead to nerf an already perfect racquet. Probably it also demands better skill than others.

It’s really a for warning. If you never try prestige mid 600, don’t. Because it will cost you a lot trying to find a good condition racquet and keeps stocking up.
 

Imago

Hall of Fame
The IG is really powerless. Even strung at 53, it require tremendous power to drive. It is only usable for me when condition is right.

...it will cost you a lot trying to find a good condition racquet and keeps stocking up.
Well, you got the short stick too. Mine came absolutely new from the pro shop - controlled and powerless. The other, on the left, has everything I.Prestige Mid has, plus a tad better control.

 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
OG Prestige-lovers disdain for the Touch Prestige Mid, I am really enjoying the Mid. I find more control with poly and would like to hear if anyone has suggestions for a softer poly for the new Touch Mid. Maybe a poly/multi hybrid? Or the other way around?
 

musicsoul

Rookie
OG Prestige-lovers disdain for the Touch Prestige Mid, I am really enjoying the Mid. I find more control with poly and would like to hear if anyone has suggestions for a softer poly for the new Touch Mid. Maybe a poly/multi hybrid? Or the other way around?
I play with the touch mid strung hybrid and I love it: alu power & wilson sensation at 25kg = controll with enough power.

I’ve never played with the old ones but this racket is perfect for me. Very fast and lots of controll.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
I play with the touch mid strung hybrid and I love it: alu power & wilson sensation at 25kg = controll with enough power.

I’ve never played with the old ones but this racket is perfect for me. Very fast and lots of controll.
I had thought I was ready to buy a few Touch Prestige Pros, but the Mid is laser like in terms of precision and control. Power is good, maybe a bit much with fb multi? I am dominating service games at 4.5 league matches. And ROS is unmatched. I am looking for a smoother feeling off the stringbed.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
I had thought I was ready to buy a few Touch Prestige Pros, but the Mid is laser like in terms of precision and control. Power is good, maybe a bit much with fb multi? I am dominating service games at 4.5 league matches. And ROS is unmatched. I am looking for a smoother feeling off the stringbed.
Try the Premier Tour 600
 
Just an FYI. I have tried the Cyclone tour 18gauge in red and it really opens up the pattern so to speak. Great ball pocketing but didn't feel too soft. I was leary as I break strings and usually 17l Poly won't hold up in anything 95 and 16x19. Thought at 89sq and 18x20 the cost was worth the shot and I will go back to it unless the 17 plays better. Doing some Volkl string testing since the Lux of any thin gauge just doesn't give me what I have come to expect from it in other frames at 95/98sq and 16x19/20 variety.
 
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musicsoul

Rookie
I had thought I was ready to buy a few Touch Prestige Pros, but the Mid is laser like in terms of precision and control. Power is good, maybe a bit much with fb multi? I am dominating service games at 4.5 league matches. And ROS is unmatched. I am looking for a smoother feeling off the stringbed.
Small update: I just changed to Alu power + Wilson syn gut power (instead of Wilson sensation) and it's even better. Softer feel, a little more power and still very precise.
 

PhxRacket

Hall of Fame
Small update: I just changed to Alu power + Wilson syn gut power (instead of Wilson sensation) and it's even better. Softer feel, a little more power and still very precise.
Does the frame ping or buzz much? I played with my Mid last night in a league match and my forearm is a little sore. Maybe the poly has reached its end. It did tuen into a rocket launcher and I was missing ROS and serves by fractions.
 

stingstang

Professional
Good luck! I’m not sure if cutting it down will enlarge the sweet spot. I find it way too demanding a stick for me to play with.
I have an MG mid. ok you have to drive through the ball and you sure won't get away with arming/pushing like you can something like a PD but I don't find it that demanding. There are loads of bigger frames I find much harder to use (I have DHBH and SW forehand so I'm not an old school player). The maneuverability & head speed you can get with this thing really makes up for the small head & dense pattern. It's plays beautifully. I would happily use these as my main sticks but finding secondhand frames & discontinued grommets on the auction site isn't for me.
 
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travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
The Prestige purists will cringe, but I've made some heavy modifications to my IG Youtek Prestige Mid, and it's now quite a beast of a frame with amazing feel and control.

1. Added 15g at 10 and 2 (3 layers of lead tape strips 5.5" long).
2. Added 10g at top of handle.
3. Trimmed off bottom 3.5" of cap grommets (to trim off 2.5g in dead weight from bottom half of hoop).
4. Restrung with 16g kevlar/ 17g Evolution prestretched at 90/35 lbs.
5. Removed butt cap, sawed off 0.3" off handle end to optimize the length, and resecured buttcap.
6. Replaced leather grip with synthetic grip.

Plows through the ball like sledge hammer and grips the fuzz like a Gillette razor!
 

mpournaras

Hall of Fame
The Prestige purists will cringe, but I've made some heavy modifications to my IG Youtek Prestige Mid, and it's now quite a beast of a frame with amazing feel and control.

1. Added 15g at 10 and 2 (3 layers of lead tape strips 5.5" long).
2. Added 10g at top of handle.
3. Trimmed off bottom 3.5" of cap grommets (to trim off 2.5g in dead weight from bottom half of hoop).
4. Restrung with 16g kevlar/ 17g Evolution prestretched at 90/35 lbs.
5. Removed butt cap, sawed off 0.3" off handle end to optimize the length, and resecured buttcap.
6. Replaced leather grip with synthetic grip.

Plows through the ball like sledge hammer and grips the fuzz like a Gillette razor!
I think I am about to throw up lmao.

You do you boo!
 

Sintherius

Rookie
The Prestige purists will cringe, but I've made some heavy modifications to my IG Youtek Prestige Mid, and it's now quite a beast of a frame with amazing feel and control.

1. Added 15g at 10 and 2 (3 layers of lead tape strips 5.5" long).
2. Added 10g at top of handle.
3. Trimmed off bottom 3.5" of cap grommets (to trim off 2.5g in dead weight from bottom half of hoop).
4. Restrung with 16g kevlar/ 17g Evolution prestretched at 90/35 lbs.
5. Removed butt cap, sawed off 0.3" off handle end to optimize the length, and resecured buttcap.
6. Replaced leather grip with synthetic grip.

Plows through the ball like sledge hammer and grips the fuzz like a Gillette razor!
:mad:
 

JustTennis76

Professional
I am a prestige purist after playing with the youtek mid before switching to the pro. I am cringing with your modifications. What are your specs after modifications? Hitting on the wall is one thing, can you play a grinder of a match for 2 hours with those specs? And possibly come back and play the following day? To me, as a rec player I want to use a racket 3 to 4 times a week without arm fatigue. Can you do that with the modified specs? If so, more power to you because I can’t. But I also get it with people doing this as a hobby to see how a racket plays.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
@vsbabolat have you tried the 93P? (Just curious what the head prestige expert thinks of it : ) ? I Really like it just as the prestige classic and tc97..
I didn't care that much for the 93P. I hit with it over the summer. I felt some vibration that I found bothersome. Didn't feel as solid as the Prestige Classic to me.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Yes. Well, then the IG Prestige Mid is a fantastic racquet! Not as plush as the Prestige Pro/Classic 600 but very close. Sad that you cut it and ruined it. Absolutely no reason for it.
It may sound like it’s ruined, but this gem is on the verge of becoming my newest regular racquet for competition. Compared to with other racquets, the ball just seems to be better at reading my mind and going where I tell it to.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
It may sound like it’s ruined, but this gem is on the verge of becoming my newest regular racquet for competition. Compared to with other racquets, the ball just seems to be better at reading my mind and going where I tell it to.
It would have played like that and better before you cut it. Thats what a Prestige Mid (89.5sq.in) does.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
It would have played like that and better before you cut it. Thats what a Prestige Mid (89.5sq.in) does.
Nah. Tried it stock, and it was good. Plays even sweeter at current length with 20g of lead tape (5" strips x 16) at 10 and 2. The entire racquetface feels like a sweet spot now.
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Nah. Tried it stock, and it was good. Plays even sweeter at current length with 20g of lead tape (5" strips x 16) at 10 and 2. The entire racquetface feels like a sweet spot now.
What’s your actual weight, balance, and swing weight? Telling me where you put your lead tape is pointless because I don’t know what you started with and what you ended with.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
What’s your actual weight, balance, and swing weight? Telling me where you put your lead tape is pointless because I don’t know what you started with and what you ended with.
Haven't measured swingweight yet. But currently at 13.2 oz., around 12.5' balance. I estimate swingweight in mid 350s right now (but planning to beef up the weight a little more to make it spinnier).
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Dug this bad boy out of the closet and swapped out the evolution crosses with 15L Prince Tournament Nylon crosses (my new favorite cross string) at 25 lbs. Left in the 16g Ashaway Kevlar that was originally strung at 90 lbs. Will report back soon.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Got another racquet fr a fellow coach. This time it APPEARS to be a MicroGEL Mid. I say "APPEARS" because he often paints his racquets. I got some bumblebees from him before and was able to successfully remove the paint and show off the original colors. I will do the same with this one.

I would like to get new CAP grommets for this but I'm not sure which one to get. The code on them are TK237. I will probably change out the pallet as well. It is currently an L2 but I pref and L3. I could use a half size heat shrink. Shouldn't add too much weight compared to a full size heat shrink.

What is the product code of this racquet and how would this compare to a PT10?

I'll go with synthetic gut for my first run with it so I get an honest feel for this racquet. Next string...well..will see.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Good to know. Unfortunately, my Austrian version has the previous owner's initials scratched into the throat of the frame, which is why I got a discount. I wish there was a way for me to make it look better.
Forgot about this post. Anyone have any ideas/recommendations on a fix?
 

McEncock

Semi-Pro
If the owner has scratched superficially the varnish, then spraying varnish should make it disappear.
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Updates on my paint removal. All done. But the original MG paint had some serious scratches from probably way before. I mean guy just change the pallet as the half size heat shrink adds about 7-9 grams.
 

roundiesee

Hall of Fame
Recently I've gone back to using the IG Prestige Mid after a hiatus of about 8 years and couldn't be happier, this is one truly control oriented stick with superb feel. Lucky I managed to get a few of them to try :)
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
I will probably end up cutting it down to 26.5" or so. On my 26.4" 6.1 95 18x20, the headsize feels too big now on the shortened frame, which is why I ordered the prestige mid.
Do it son ! I love my head 89.5 sq inch racket never have trouble hitting the sweet spot . I guess it’s small but once you get used to it every thing else seems obtuse and over done I swear it’s the truth . In the past years of only using these mids. Cut down to 26 or 25.5 never have a worry about missing the zone . I look at mine all the time probably too much ... and the 89.5 or 93 so head now says but what ever size it truly is is perfect for me . I’ve finally found my grail . Modded out of course But it’s a head racket! And it’s a mid! If only I was good enough to play with the prestige . But I’m just so happy that I now have what’s come to be a true extension of my arm)
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
And I love hearing all the weird fun mods too . I do some silly fun stuff that makes the racket play way more fun and better too . I play with a 4 and 1/2 but with a but cap from head in a size 3 . It fits snug and I don’t have to glue or staple . Plus I enjoy a smaller butt and a bigger handle go figure . I shave em down make em lighter and cut off some length paint em with epoxy shiny paint and they are durable and look super neat . String choice is a fun one too !
Pro blend mains and iso speed control crosses . I borrowed a cool way to get more I don’t know ? @Shroud But I like it I string the Kevlar mains at 22 and the isospeed crosses now at 42 and they hit so great . Firm yet soft and maybe some extra spin too ) one thing I never liked about pro blend was the color and no matter the cross it looked bad together , but iso speed control is super close in color to princes champagne color string so they match . And I dig that call me silly.
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
Anyway sorry for dumping all that onto you the head prestige mids ! Go on forever ! All my love to that racket designer and all the folks that feel they play there best tennis with it! And is still top 5 best looking rackets EVER DESIGNED AESTHETIC IS OUTTA THIS WORLD A+++++++++++++++++
 

TennisHound

Legend
Do it son ! I love my head 89.5 sq inch racket never have trouble hitting the sweet spot . I guess it’s small but once you get used to it every thing else seems obtuse and over done I swear it’s the truth . In the past years of only using these mids. Cut down to 26 or 25.5 never have a worry about missing the zone . I look at mine all the time probably too much ... and the 89.5 or 93 so head now says but what ever size it truly is is perfect for me . I’ve finally found my grail . Modded out of course But it’s a head racket! And it’s a mid! If only I was good enough to play with the prestige . But I’m just so happy that I now have what’s come to be a true extension of my arm)
Howcould you ever play with 26 or25.5? Why?SMH
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Just joined the club via the MicroGel model. I've hit with the FlexPoint a couple times but it was a loaner. The Mid that I got was painted in what looked like stencil ink. I was able to clean it off after some elbow work...but there was significant scratches (prob why prev owner painted it) and the factory paint was discolored a bit. Put on new grommets along with a couple coats of flat black. I didn't weigh it before but according to online specs, it is 10 g heavier. I don't know if it comes with a leather grip so not sure if the weight was added by the paint of the grip to be honest.

 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
Just joined the club via the MicroGel model. I've hit with the FlexPoint a couple times but it was a loaner. The Mid that I got was painted in what looked like stencil ink. I was able to clean it off after some elbow work...but there was significant scratches (prob why prev owner painted it) and the factory paint was discolored a bit. Put on new grommets along with a couple coats of flat black. I didn't weigh it before but according to online specs, it is 10 g heavier. I don't know if it comes with a leather grip so not sure if the weight was added by the paint of the grip to be honest.

Weight would have came from the leather grip 100%. The MGs come with a white synthetic grip stock.
 

Ultra 2

Professional
So is the LM Prestige mid a frame that took a Prestige frame and added the weights on it? It almost seems that you would need to reduce the overall weight of the frame to counterbalance of the added weight. Curious to know.
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
Howcould you ever play with 26 or25.5? Why?SMH
Makes it lighter and I’m short . Short rackets make us play better no not really but it does help tame the length of my shots . You take 27 inch pro staff and put it in a mechanical robot arm have it swing and hit a ball . Measure the length of the balls travel and then where it lands on the court . Mark that point . Now do the same with the exact same racket but this time swop it out for the 26 inch pro staff and see where it lands . The difference is shocking .
 

teachingprotx

Hall of Fame
Just joined the club via the MicroGel model. I've hit with the FlexPoint a couple times but it was a loaner. The Mid that I got was painted in what looked like stencil ink. I was able to clean it off after some elbow work...but there was significant scratches (prob why prev owner painted it) and the factory paint was discolored a bit. Put on new grommets along with a couple coats of flat black. I didn't weigh it before but according to online specs, it is 10 g heavier. I don't know if it comes with a leather grip so not sure if the weight was added by the paint of the grip to be honest.

Damn that looks awesome darth Vader’s stick of choice ! Wow! Man that looks plain ass awesome !!!!!
 

MajesticMoose

Hall of Fame
I would think the exact opposite. Shorter players need all the help they can get for power and leverage hince an extended length frame. Cutting a frame down to 26" or 25.5" is extremely bizarre. Kinda ruins the frame esp if it's a classic. To each their own I suppose.
 
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