Prince 93P 14x18 on TW

mhkeuns

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#4
For those who have played with the 93P 18x20, I'd imagine it would be the same reaction that I had when I hit the Prince Original Graphite Mid for the first time (*as a long time Pro Staff Mid user), which was surprising power and noticeable increase in topspin. It was fun in its own way, but I still preferred less powerful but super predictable responses of the Pro Staff Midsize.

I'd imagine control comes from being able to manage spin (*much like Pure Aero) but in a much finer way than the tweener spin monsters. This, to me, would be a great racket for those topspin baseline players who seek more pin-point control than they get from the current line up of tweeners in the market.
 
#6
For those who have played with the 93P 18x20, I'd imagine it would be the same reaction that I had when I hit the Prince Original Graphite Mid for the first time (*as a long time Pro Staff Mid user), which was surprising power and noticeable increase in topspin. It was fun in its own way, but I still preferred less powerful but super predictable responses of the Pro Staff Midsize.

I'd imagine control comes from being able to manage spin (*much like Pure Aero) but in a much finer way than the tweener spin monsters. This, to me, would be a great racket for those topspin baseline players who seek more pin-point control than they get from the current line up of tweeners in the market.
Well said. And imo: PS85 > POG Mid since day 1.
 
#7
Would love to demo when available - the string pattern is reminiscent of my old trusty CTS graduates. It’s also nice to string a 14x18...just that much quicker...


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For those who have played with the 93P 18x20, I'd imagine it would be the same reaction that I had when I hit the Prince Original Graphite Mid for the first time (*as a long time Pro Staff Mid user), which was surprising power and noticeable increase in topspin. It was fun in its own way, but I still preferred less powerful but super predictable responses of the Pro Staff Midsize.

I'd imagine control comes from being able to manage spin (*much like Pure Aero) but in a much finer way than the tweener spin monsters. This, to me, would be a great racket for those topspin baseline players who seek more pin-point control than they get from the current line up of tweeners in the market.
I had the exact same experience. But POG mid with the open pattern does have a sweet spot that plays larger than the head size would suggest, which made it a bit more forgiving than PS85.


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topspn

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#16
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#18
Oh oh - I just may have to get one.

I like the 18x20 but 19g strings I used to try to open up the response popped quick. 14 x 18 can work well with 17g and makes natural gut more of a contender for the mains.
 

mhkeuns

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#21
I did, but I don’t even think I even knew what string patterns were. We just knew a Pro Staff, Prince Graphite and CTS, and the Snauert (sp?). Oh and the Wilson Ceramic (even though the Wimbledon version played better).
Me, too. Though I hit with the Prince Graphite Mid in the 80's, I didn't know that there were different string patterns for different reasons. I just hit them. My high school coach, way back when, told me that the gears didn't matter, and we could get used to and play well with just about anything. He wasn't wrong, but I was happy swinging my idol Edberg's frame and thought the frame actually elevated my game.
 
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#22
So any report on how this plays? I was all set to purchase but I’ve hesitated. I have been playing so well with the 93p 18x20. I need some feedback!!!
 
#23
Troy gave me the following feedback in another thread when I asked about it...

“The 93P 14x18 makes it so much easier to spin the ball, and get the ball up and down, over the net, when compared to the 18x20 version. That said, there is so much vertical action on my shots with the 14x18, that there were times I found it more difficult to hit through the court. When hitting flatter put-away shots, the 18x20 was more effective for me.”
 
#24
Troy gave me the following feedback in another thread when I asked about it...

“The 93P 14x18 makes it so much easier to spin the ball, and get the ball up and down, over the net, when compared to the 18x20 version. That said, there is so much vertical action on my shots with the 14x18, that there were times I found it more difficult to hit through the court. When hitting flatter put-away shots, the 18x20 was more effective for me.”
Which is why 16x20 is the GOAT of string patterns, and why the Diablo mid is the greatest Prince ever.
 

tata

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#25
Which is why 16x20 is the GOAT of string patterns, and why the Diablo mid is the greatest Prince ever.
Diablo mid was my goat frame. I'm 100% sure I've had my fastest and heaviest serves with that frame. The heft and super headlight balance. The put away power and precision. It was the frame I had at the peak of my powers.
 

mhkeuns

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#26
14x18 pattern is unique, but Prince made it work. The Prince Original Gaphite Mid is still one of the greatest rackets Prince ever produced and was one of the most powerful and topspin friendly frame in the 80’s. I remember getting badly beaten often by players wielding the Prince Original Graphite (*both mid and OS - more people used the OS around me, though) wondering how they were able to hit so hard with so much spin. Had no idea on the string patterns back then, but playing against the players who hit with the POG always intimidated me as a newbie varsity player in high school.

The pattern obviously works. I guess it all depends on the mechanics. Some will prefer the 18x20 (*me), where the players with more modern topspin strokes would probably appreciate the 14x18.
 
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#27
but people with modern topspin strokes probably won't opt for small head stick.

93P is an ideal stick for ntrp 4 and below tennis enthusiasts :) By the way, that's me too.
 

mhkeuns

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#28
Homestly, though, I’m rotating the 93P with 97” & 98” rackets and do not notice differences in the real estate. It’s weird. I noticed the lack of hitting surface with the Powerbridge 10 but not with the 93P. I’m thinking that the 14x18 will provide more pop and spin for those who didn’t like the 93P 18x20. I don’t know why that I gelled with the 93P so well. It really is the best stick for me.
 
#29
I bought the pb10 (used) as soon as i bought the 93p. However the 93p is much better specially in the surface area available. Serves with the 93p was waaaaaaay better.
93p
Serve: 9
Forehand: 8
Backhand (ohbh): 9
Volleys: 9

Pb10
Serve: 7
Forehand: 8
Backhand: 8
Volleys: 8
 

Power Player

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#30
but people with modern topspin strokes probably won't opt for small head stick.

93P is an ideal stick for ntrp 4 and below tennis enthusiasts :) By the way, that's me too.

I have hit modern topspin my whole life (extreme SW, semi open stance). It’s easy with the P93 and it’s not just a frame for players 4.0 and below. I don’t know why people have to make up rules for racquets. There are no rules except what works for you.

For example, I have a wide open pattern, tweener in the PA+, but I play a more aggressive and dynamic game with the 18x20 P93.
 
#31
but people with modern topspin strokes probably won't opt for small head stick.

93P is an ideal stick for ntrp 4 and below tennis enthusiasts :) By the way, that's me too.
I’d think a 4.5-5.0 player could get more out of a 93p than us lowly 3.5-4.0 players. Basically anyone with a full swing. To me that’s the requirement. You have to swing it. You can’t bunt, slap or brush it.
 
#32
I’d think a 4.5-5.0 player could get more out of a 93p than us lowly 3.5-4.0 players. Basically anyone with a full swing. To me that’s the requirement. You have to swing it. You can’t bunt, slap or brush it.
I think it does better AGAINST better players too. It likes a heavy ball to respond to. Pattycake is not its steez.


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#36
Prince should just bring back the Prince Graphite II
I played with the Graphite II as a junior when it first came out, and re-acquired a used one in great condition in the Fall of 2017. That 14x18 pattern has great spin, and it's one of the most beautiful racquets ever, but to be honest it is a pretty stiff racquet also, and my elbow doesn't like it so much, so I actually have mine for sale on the big auction site. I really want to keep it for sentimental reasons and because it's a unique string pattern and that sparkly green paint is so darn dazzling, but I've got 4 other Prince racquets and I just don't think I can justify keeping this one.
 
#45
I agree. They all just look so fun to play with and such a sweet looking frame in the videos.

I'm heading to the Parabas next week and I hope TW demo station will be there with some new Phantoms to test drive.
I'm certain they will have the demos there at BNP Paribas. They even had the original Phantom to demo and sell two years ago when I was there even before the official release.
 
#49
@TW Staff Sean can you compare the 93P to your Vcore Pro? I'm very curious about this racket in large part because of how much you liked it. Also could you explain a little more why you decided to make the switch. Thanks so much!
 
#50
I want to know how comfortable it is compared to 18x20 version. Looks like RA63 scares me away...... how about touch and feel....
thank you
Some of the increase frame stiffness would be offset by the much more open string pattern. Also, 63RA is still fairly low by modern standards. I mean, we are not talking about a Babolat PD with 70+ RA here...
 
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