Prince Boron 110 - What Was The Point ?

AndrewD

Legend
never say never - i'm sure she played some matches with it, but none of import. proof -i have the same level of proof that she never did. this was not a five ' dime racquet that a company throws a player's name on. prince would have had gaby show up racquet in hand to playat least one or two minor tournaments. somewhat similar to connors with prostaff 85 before he went to slazenger.
Mate, that's just a load of garbage.

Think about it. Sabatini was born in 1970. She came onto the tour full-time at age 15 in 1985, using the Prince Woodie. The Prince Boron was released around 1983. By the time Sabatini had made her first splash on tour the Boron had already fizzled out.

Connors tried the PS85 then went back to his T2000, a long time before he switched to Slazenger.
 

buysofia

Rookie
Prince Boron's Grommets

i have the one with the grommet strip. uhm what is the ****** ?
I have 2 Prince Boron with individual grommets. I've changed both with individual grommets, but next time I'll try with a set of POG 110 (OS) that have the same string pattern (16M X 19C), this idea may help you.
If it doesn't fit you'll sepend 4 or 5 dollars, but if fits you'll save a lot of money and work.
I repeat, it's an idea, which I'll try next time I need to replace my Boron's grommets.

If it doesn't work try to get individual grommets in this site http://www.mansionselect.com/tennistools-grommetsystem-grommetset.html. They are the same Fittex Gromets in packs of 20, 50 and 100 pieces, and detailed different gormmets lengths.

Sorry TW, I love you but individual grommets you have in stock are extremely expensive :cry:

Regards.-
 

buysofia

Rookie
Pros who played with Prince Boron

I remember Horacio de la Peña and Eduardo Bengoechea (both from Argentina) playing with a Prince Boron for a while, can anyone confirm this????

I dont know if I'm delirious.-

Great post. Great racquet.

Regards.:)
 

buysofia

Rookie
Prince Boron pics

Hi, it's me again!

Here you get some pics of PB promotional pieces.-

De la Peña using a PB, or at least a clone of him!!!


This one with some extra information and an flexibility index for Prince Racquets of those years.



Ain't it pretty????

For more awesome frames watch http://www.80s-tennis.com/
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
It's only taken me like 25 years to ask it but then this forum wasn't around back then...can any experts explain why the Prince Boron was part of Prince's mid-80s line-up ?

Endorsed and wielded by John Newcombe during his '84 USO doubles run with Fred Stolle, and also used by Kent Carlsson I recall.
As far as I understand, it was their super-premium stick, with uh, boron fibres.
So why was it available only as a relatively granny-sized 110sq.in instead of a players-size 90 ?
Was it designed to appeal to country club hackers with more money than sense?
On the plus side, they don't make classy full-length thermo covers like they did for this one anymore.
Boron back then was lighter and more powerful material. They claim it was extremely stable on off centered hits as well. but now, we have much cheaper materials like Graphene that Is just as good if not better. Graphene is a real breakthru material but it doesnt' really improve someone's level because Graphene as good as it is,, it doesn't swing itself...…...….LOL
 

Chadwix

Professional
Pros who played with Prince Boron

I remember Horacio de la Peña and Eduardo Bengoechea (both from Argentina) playing with a Prince Boron for a while, can anyone confirm this????

I dont know if I'm delirious.-

Great post. Great racquet.

Regards.:)
I think most pro's used the Sovern (sp), it was $1500 for consumers. They gave you a piece of paper and you basically made your frame exactly how you wanted it. Like the h19/22 today.

I liked the racket, it was like a stiffer version of their pog. Wilson already had a super stiff smaller head (ultra 2)

Any updates on grommets for the Prince Boron? Will the POG OS grommets work??




The space between the 3-4 mains look more spaced on the pog (could tube it probably). Would be very easy to tell in person or a pic of them face to face.

This site has one you can zoom and look at the pattern of the boron

 
I think most pro's used the Sovern (sp), it was $1500 for consumers. They gave you a piece of paper and you basically made your frame exactly how you wanted it. Like the h19/22 today.

I liked the racket, it was like a stiffer version of their pog. Wilson already had a super stiff smaller head (ultra 2)







The space between the 3-4 mains look more spaced on the pog (could tube it probably). Would be very easy to tell in person or a pic of them face to face.

This site has one you can zoom and look at the pattern of the boron

Thank you!!! BHBH


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Geoff

Hall of Fame
Prince Boron's Grommets


I have 2 Prince Boron with individual grommets. I've changed both with individual grommets, but next time I'll try with a set of POG 110 (OS) that have the same string pattern (16M X 19C), this idea may help you.
If it doesn't fit you'll sepend 4 or 5 dollars, but if fits you'll save a lot of money and work.
I repeat, it's an idea, which I'll try next time I need to replace my Boron's grommets.

If it doesn't work try to get individual grommets in this site http://www.mansionselect.com/tennistools-grommetsystem-grommetset.html. They are the same Fittex Gromets in packs of 20, 50 and 100 pieces, and detailed different gormmets lengths.

Sorry TW, I love you but individual grommets you have in stock are extremely expensive :cry:

Regards.-
Unfortunately bumper guard/grommet sets do not fit the racquets with individual grommets. Also in reply to another player that used the Prince Boron was American Eric Korita.
 

Crocodile

Hall of Fame
A few companies made some racquets with Boron including;
1. PK Boron Ace
2. Wimbledon Boron pro ( made by OK)
3. Snauwert Boron mid and dyno
4. Yonex R27
Just a few examples. At the time I thought they felt very boardy and the Prince was expensive. I think the cost probably worked against these frames and then ceramic frames came on stream.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
A few companies made some racquets with Boron including;
1. PK Boron Ace
2. Wimbledon Boron pro ( made by OK)
3. Snauwert Boron mid and dyno
4. Yonex R27
Just a few examples. At the time I thought they felt very boardy and the Prince was expensive. I think the cost probably worked against these frames and then ceramic frames came on stream.
Yes, and Adidas offered the GTX Boron, while Kneissl offered the Red Star Pro, both based on the mold of the Kneissl White Star Pro. These racquets play considerably stiffer than their counterpart with a graphite / kevlar or graphite / fiberglass layup.
 
It is called developing a premium market....

The initial ad said the price was precisely $500.00, with Newk as the front man.
Yes, the snob appeal was part of the marketing campaign.
It was stiffer than the POG and the two players who switched to it swore that it was quicker to wield than the POG they were using. Boron did stiffen the frames of the period were it was used, in some cases quite a bit.
Adjusted for inflation, rackets really have not gone up in price very much.
Prices haven't gone up because production costs and quality have gone down across the board.
 
Prices haven't gone up because production costs and quality have gone down across the board.
I would say this is inaccurate. Prices haven't gone up because the overall tennis market is significantly smaller and the market demand dictates the price. Production costs are significantly higher now than they were 30 years ago and I'd argue very strongly that quality is also significantly better now, but it is just under a far greater microscope in terms of frame tolerances than in the 80's and 90's. There is a much greater call for frame matching and spec control now than there ever has been in the past. I can pull two POG frames out of a box in our inventory and the weights can vary by as much as 30g. Swingweight and stiffness measurements weren't even provided and the player wasn't ever able to measure them (and probably wasn't as concerned about it as they were more concerned with the way they played with a certain racquet than the actual spec of it).

I'd be interested to know what makes you think production cost and quality has gone down over the last 30 years.
 
I would say this is inaccurate. Prices haven't gone up because the overall tennis market is significantly smaller and the market demand dictates the price. Production costs are significantly higher now than they were 30 years ago and I'd argue very strongly that quality is also significantly better now, but it is just under a far greater microscope in terms of frame tolerances than in the 80's and 90's. There is a much greater call for frame matching and spec control now than there ever has been in the past. I can pull two POG frames out of a box in our inventory and the weights can vary by as much as 30g. Swingweight and stiffness measurements weren't even provided and the player wasn't ever able to measure them (and probably wasn't as concerned about it as they were more concerned with the way they played with a certain racquet than the actual spec of it).

I'd be interested to know what makes you think production cost and quality has gone down over the last 30 years.
Thanks for setting the record straight, it was my "assumption" based on the mass exodus of manufacturing to cheaper labor markets like China, and my own experience with dwindling QC of Wilson rackets. Is it safe to assume that "margins' have also shrunk, if prices haven't increased and the cost of production has gone up as you mentioned, are companies like Babolat playing the volume game? I can't imagine they are hurting financially given their large market presence, player sponsorships? Or is this just a case of the same market being cannibalized by one or two larger players ? Thanks for your insights and education !
 
Like PBody99 said, it was the snob appeal. They were a sure bet as there were people out there that wanted to have the most expensive racket made. It was stiff too, which is what an oversized racket needed back then, but the main thing was the snob appeal.
 
So what did you think about the boron?
Not for me. Low launch angle, kind of a vague feeling. I like the POG better.

Among OS frames the old HEAD Agassi frames are my favorite. I have several stock piled in custom glossy black paint for my golden years!


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mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Not for me. Low launch angle, kind of a vague feeling. I like the POG better.

Among OS frames the old HEAD Agassi frames are my favorite. I have several stock piled in custom glossy black paint for my golden years!


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it’s been ages since I hit with mine. Maybe I should pull it out and see what I think of it now.
 

Chadwix

Professional
Not for me. Low launch angle, kind of a vague feeling. I like the POG better.

Among OS frames the old HEAD Agassi frames are my favorite. I have several stock piled in custom glossy black paint for my golden years!


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Trisys 260? Bumblebee

Great racket, i used in college but strung so many times they are all warped or soft.
 
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