Prince Graphite II

LeftyBman

New User
Hello everyone. I was at my uncle's and he gave me these awesome sticks that I have yet to use.
Prince Graphite II OS.
I need some info on how these rackets work. Also I rarely found anything on these except for their predecessor POG.
Are these sticks worth using or should i just move onto the newer rackets like an APD?

Btw I currently use a Wilson XLB Tempest Graphite. If that's of any use.
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maxply

Rookie
I still use my Graphite 2 oversize for doubles, I got it as a gift from a girlfriend in 1993! She is gone but the racquet still works great, you can find the specs on TWs racquet finder. Really good spin and power, plays great with a poly.
 

Volley123

New User
I just restrung my MP with a multi. The heft gives it enough plow through where you don't need to swing as fast. Spin is incredible. Because of the super open pattern, you might need to string more often. I thought about selling it and even put it on the boards, thank God it didn't sell. It plays much better with the multi than the Syn gut I had on it.
 

Sanglier

Professional
Let's not forget that long before these "Graphite II" came along, and before the appearance of 'POG 2' (grommeted, bumperless), there was an earlier US-made, twin-striped "Graphite II" (shall we call it 'POG II'?), which was a more flexible and cheaper stablemate of the 'POG 1', following the classification scheme proposed here: http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=324543




I believe 'POG II' was only made for one year - between 1978-1979; which might account for its scarcity. Most people probably assume they are looking at a regular POG when they encounter one. The example I have has a matte finish, in contrast to the glossy finish on the POG, but I don't know if all 'POG II' were like this.

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SteveI

Legend
Prince Graphite II Oversize


Head Size: 107 sq. in. / 690 sq. cm.

Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm

Strung Weight: 12.30 oz / 349 g

Balance: 8pts HL

Swing Weight: 330


Beam Width: 22.0mm

Tip/Shaft: 22.0mm / 22.0mm

Composition: 100% Graphite

Power Level: Low-Medium

Stiffness: 66


String Pattern: 16 Mains/19 Crosses

Main Skip: 8T,8H

String Tension: 57-67
 

Kalin

Legend
Awesome racquets. I have a pair of the MP ones; they were ahead of their time and are still very relevant today.
 

MichaelChang

Hall of Fame
I have some MP in mint condition. It is not my favorite cup of tea. The stick feels lighter and stiffer, I would say probably more comparable to the modern sticks rather than the old school POG. You can sure play with it on the current topspin games, it might be harder to control than the Babolats but it is still a decent stick.
 

MichaelChang

Hall of Fame
The Chang version looks very much like the Graphite 2. Not sure about the layup but the mold looks the same to me.

Chang is extralong 28 inch. Graphite 2 is 27 I believe. I liked the Chang graphite OS (not the titanum), but all these are getting closer to the tweener rackets so they are stiff and lighter.
 

jersey34tennis

Professional
if you ever are in the market to trade one of them for an aeropro drive or a different wilson or babolat let me know. i'm a diehard pog fan and i have the midplus of the graphite II'S but never got an oversize to hit with. thanks
 

struggle

Legend
Chang is extralong 28 inch. Graphite 2 is 27 I believe. I liked the Chang graphite OS (not the titanum), but all these are getting closer to the tweener rackets so they are stiff and lighter.

Yeah, I have a Chang OS, but it's just a longer handle. I was referring to the racket (hairpin) itself regarding the mold.
 

Don't Let It Bounce

Hall of Fame
Let's not forget that long before these "Graphite II" came along, and before the appearance of 'POG 2' (grommeted, bumperless), there was an earlier US-made, twin-striped "Graphite II" (shall we call it 'POG II'?), which was a more flexible and cheaper stablemate of the 'POG 1'...

I believe 'POG II' was only made for one year - between 1978-1979; which might account for its scarcity. Most people probably assume they are looking at a regular POG when they encounter one. The example I have has a matte finish, in contrast to the glossy finish on the POG, but I don't know if all 'POG II' were like this.
Oh, man. I saw one of those once, back in the day, but I had forgotten all about 'em until I read this. Thanks for posting the photo!
 

Sanglier

Professional
I had forgotten all about 'em until I read this.

You are not alone! Even the people who made these no longer remember them when asked!

According to what was written in the press at the time, POG II only differed from the regular POG in having fiberglass in its layup (hence it was softer and cheaper than POG). This model appears to have been dropped when Prince switched to a different contractor a short time later, before most people had had a chance to notice it.

My guess is that even the executives at Prince may have forgotten about the POG II after a while, or else they might have named the later generation Graphite II something else, perhaps "Graphite III" - "The Third"? :)
 

LeftyBman

New User
After three days of testing the racket out, I can say I do it no Justice. I'm not too sure if it's the weight as I have only used anything 10 and below. I didn't feel like I could hit winners with it.
 

LeftyBman

New User
if you ever are in the market to trade one of them for an aeropro drive or a different wilson or babolat let me know. i'm a diehard pog fan and i have the midplus of the graphite II'S but never got an oversize to hit with. thanks

I would be very interested in doing so. As I mentioned before I do these rackets no justice :neutral:
 

jersey34tennis

Professional
just me know what frames you're interested in and i'll dig through my collection. i have a bunch of frames. mostly mid to heavier weigt. not really a lot of oversize frames and will throw in string too.
 

LeftyBman

New User
just me know what frames you're interested in and i'll dig through my collection. i have a bunch of frames. mostly mid to heavier weigt. not really a lot of oversize frames and will throw in string too.

Alright. Mostly looking for an APD or PD but I do enjoy others. How about we exchange emails to make this easier. I'm pretty sure mine is accessible but if not it's
GEOKID101@Gmail.com
 
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EBauman

New User
I just scored one of the original POG II's today, the one from 1978. It reminds me a lot of the new heavy POG 50th anniversary model. It also weighs a little over 13 oz. and has the same short grip, no head guard (or grommets), and Prince logo with the ball shooting out of the 'I'. It does feel very flexible. Very fun to hit with. (And btw it's also matt finish, not glossy.)
 
I just scored one of the original POG II's today, the one from 1978. It reminds me a lot of the new heavy POG 50th anniversary model. It also weighs a little over 13 oz. and has the same short grip, no head guard (or grommets), and Prince logo with the ball shooting out of the 'I'. It does feel very flexible. Very fun to hit with. (And btw it's also matt finish, not glossy.)
Love to see a pic of this !!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty please!?
 

Sanglier

Professional
Can’t see the pic unfortunately

If you haven't already done so, just scroll up to post #7 (defaced by Photobucket, but still visible). I found another one after posting this example seven yeas ago. The second unit also looked like this; so they are all the same. The two examples weighed the same as a standard POG, had a relatively neutral balance, and a 54-55 RA measured flex, so they are too heavy and too stiff for you regardless. :)
 
If you haven't already done so, just scroll up to post #7 (defaced by Photobucket, but still visible). I found another one after posting this example seven yeas ago. The second unit also looked like this; so they are all the same. The two examples weighed the same as a standard POG, had a relatively neutral balance, and a 54-55 RA measured flex, so they are too heavy and too stiff for you regardless. :)
Thank you brother
 

retrowagen

Hall of Fame
1978 to 1979 only one year
Umm… the first Graphite II was the weird one year only 1978-1979.
The semi-widebody green models in MP and OS sizes came around 1990 and there was a reissue of them later in the late 1990’s or early 2000’s, in lighter form from what I recall.
 
The early 2000s reissue had a "P" logo above the grip and was a little lighter. There were also clones out of that mold, if you can find them. The Accuforce Omni was one of them. Exact same frame but in red cosmetics. A true beauty... I wish I still had my stash of those.
 
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