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Fed Kennedy
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One of the biggest question marks in the modern game IMO
Fed Kennedy
Legend
Paging Prince Heads, @Gee @Papa Mango @Power Player
Lets say I’ve slept on the Phantom line since the beginning and my last experience was exo3 Tour.
Is it fair to say the X models are just refinements of those exo3 tours and no big change?
How does that box beam 100p fit in…is it the more solid frame or are we dropping power even more?
Lets say I’ve slept on the Phantom line since the beginning and my last experience was exo3 Tour.
Is it fair to say the X models are just refinements of those exo3 tours and no big change?
How does that box beam 100p fit in…is it the more solid frame or are we dropping power even more?
Power Player
Bionic Poster
It’s a nice frame but not on the level of the 93p to me. I’d rather go back a few years to the prince og graphites you could buy here or maybe see if the new line has an original graphite model.
Honestly though it’s tough to really go wrong with this phantom line if you are good with them not going to give you as much on defense. So if you see one for cheap it’s well worth trying for yourself. The feel is great on most phantoms I have hit with.
I ordered a demo of the 2024 Phantom 100P as soon as it came out and I just had my first hit with it.
Short review:
My usual frame: Prince Phantom Pro 100P (2018) L4
Usual Strings: Kirschbaum Pro Line II @ 45 lbs.
Demo frame: Prince Phantom 100P 2024 L3
Demo strings: Tennis Only warehouse special. I assume it was 48-50 lbs
This frame was brand new and still had the plastic wrap on the handle. I swear any scuff marks on the frame are from shipping.
The colorway is matte OD green and looks pretty much the same in person as it does in the photos. Not my style but it’s certainly different from anything else you'll see on the court
First impression: Instantly familiar. Definitely not a departure from the previous 100Ps. The sweet spot feels even more plush than my old frames and is really satisfying. I was expecting a slightly stiffer feel on contact since my frames don't have ATS, Twaron, or Zylon in the hoop, but it was pretty much the same. The one thing I was hoping for was less frame vibration on off-center hits, but I still feel it. I use 1g of lead at 10 and 2 on my frames to combat this, and I'm sure it'll work just as well on these.
Weight, balance, maneuverability feel identical.
Ground strokes feel exactly the same as my old Phantoms. You get more precision than power, but there's plenty of spin.
Serves and overheads also feel the same, which is to say very good. I always wished I could get just a touch more power on the serve from these frames, but I primarily use the Phantom 100P to relieve shoulder pain I have on my serves, and the 2024 version is no different.
Volleys feel great. There may be a shade more stability with this 2024 version vs. my 2018 and it's very welcome. The 97P was a better volleying frame than the Pro 100P, but this new version feels more controllable, with the bonus of more powerful ground strokes.
Overall it was a good hit. I'm glad the 100P is back in production. I'm not so enthralled as to throw away my existing Phantoms and switch to the new version, but I'll definitely replace my existing frames with the new frames as needed.
Cheers
Short review:
My usual frame: Prince Phantom Pro 100P (2018) L4
Usual Strings: Kirschbaum Pro Line II @ 45 lbs.
Demo frame: Prince Phantom 100P 2024 L3
Demo strings: Tennis Only warehouse special. I assume it was 48-50 lbs
This frame was brand new and still had the plastic wrap on the handle. I swear any scuff marks on the frame are from shipping.
The colorway is matte OD green and looks pretty much the same in person as it does in the photos. Not my style but it’s certainly different from anything else you'll see on the court
First impression: Instantly familiar. Definitely not a departure from the previous 100Ps. The sweet spot feels even more plush than my old frames and is really satisfying. I was expecting a slightly stiffer feel on contact since my frames don't have ATS, Twaron, or Zylon in the hoop, but it was pretty much the same. The one thing I was hoping for was less frame vibration on off-center hits, but I still feel it. I use 1g of lead at 10 and 2 on my frames to combat this, and I'm sure it'll work just as well on these.
Weight, balance, maneuverability feel identical.
Ground strokes feel exactly the same as my old Phantoms. You get more precision than power, but there's plenty of spin.
Serves and overheads also feel the same, which is to say very good. I always wished I could get just a touch more power on the serve from these frames, but I primarily use the Phantom 100P to relieve shoulder pain I have on my serves, and the 2024 version is no different.
Volleys feel great. There may be a shade more stability with this 2024 version vs. my 2018 and it's very welcome. The 97P was a better volleying frame than the Pro 100P, but this new version feels more controllable, with the bonus of more powerful ground strokes.
Overall it was a good hit. I'm glad the 100P is back in production. I'm not so enthralled as to throw away my existing Phantoms and switch to the new version, but I'll definitely replace my existing frames with the new frames as needed.
Cheers
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Just my thoughts about the new phantom line. I have really liked the last 2 iterations of this line of racquets with their thin beams and soft feel and have no reason not to believe that the 3rd 2024 iteration will not continue this trend and values . I am hoping to order a new one shortly.
However if Prince plan to market this generation for as long as the previous generation then I think they will find it difficult and will run out of puff earlier than expected
mainly because I don’t think the camouflage cosmetic has the goods to appeal for a full market product cycle . In my opinion, they will need to release some limited editions with a different colour way because the khaki green is underwhelming. Maybe when I see it in the flesh I might feel different about it, but my initial thoughts are that it’s not premium enough.
These racquets, being such beautiful precision instruments should look like silk boxer shorts and painted at least in a deep purple or some other classy colour. Anybody agree or have a different take on the 2024 release. I do love Prince racquets and would love to see them rise to prominence again but they need to get out and communicate with their fans;
However if Prince plan to market this generation for as long as the previous generation then I think they will find it difficult and will run out of puff earlier than expected
mainly because I don’t think the camouflage cosmetic has the goods to appeal for a full market product cycle . In my opinion, they will need to release some limited editions with a different colour way because the khaki green is underwhelming. Maybe when I see it in the flesh I might feel different about it, but my initial thoughts are that it’s not premium enough.
These racquets, being such beautiful precision instruments should look like silk boxer shorts and painted at least in a deep purple or some other classy colour. Anybody agree or have a different take on the 2024 release. I do love Prince racquets and would love to see them rise to prominence again but they need to get out and communicate with their fans;
Lord of the Crags
New User
This one may capture the feel better;
It also has a better bass line for all those baseliners out there...
Lord of the Crags
New User
My silk boxers are white with red hearts all over them....
Fed Kennedy
Legend
I appreciate the overall sexi nature of this take. However. Is this not exactly what they tried last time?
1st gen: Green and black (classic)
2nd gen: Deep purp (sexi boxers)
3rd gen: Pea soup camo (duck dynasty)
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
I like the deep purple look and perhaps they should develop varying degrees of intensity, shade and ire-descence in the fleck of the colour.
So for example looking at the previous generation I envisage the following;
93 and 97p - Matt velvet deep purple
100P and 100x - Electric purple
100 Tour and 03 100 Pro- chameleon purple- blue
I think the black and green should be kept for the legacy POG range.
The Textreme tours should continue white but with more solid decals. The current writing and decoration on the tour range looks weak.
I give the camo green 6 months and it will be dead in the water, people will ignore it - bad choice;
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
I think the current look in tennis racquet successful cosmetic design is one that is contemporary, modern yet elegant,
Two other brands that have failed the cosmetic test was Volkl with its current C10 Pro and V1 EVO and Pro Kennex with most of their frames with the racing car theme. While I have no problem with making the Q Tours green, it’s the wrong shade of green being slime colour - it should have been more like the current blades with their shade of emerald green. Also the z Yonex V Core 2021 with the red and blue - well they were the wrong shades of red and blue with the current iteration slightly better with the black added, but the type of red is wrong;
Two other brands that have failed the cosmetic test was Volkl with its current C10 Pro and V1 EVO and Pro Kennex with most of their frames with the racing car theme. While I have no problem with making the Q Tours green, it’s the wrong shade of green being slime colour - it should have been more like the current blades with their shade of emerald green. Also the z Yonex V Core 2021 with the red and blue - well they were the wrong shades of red and blue with the current iteration slightly better with the black added, but the type of red is wrong;
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for sharing but I had something else in mindMy silk boxers are white with red hearts all over them....
Fed Kennedy
Legend
I’m with you, however there is a slight chance that they cross into the realm of: so bad that it actually becomes good
Kind of like Van Halen. Or the movie Point Break
Trinity110
Semi-Pro
Just try to imagine them having 5 top looks in competition, and camo won. What were the others!!!
SMH
SMH
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Surely jumping out of a plane without a parachute is a ‘calculated risk’?
As someone who has lived near Bell’s Beach what they tried to pass off as Bell’s Beach was actually the movie’s biggest insult to credible verisimilitude.
Fed Kennedy
Legend
Nevertheless still the greatest film ever made
TwinCinema
Professional
Next time your opponent hits a let on his first serve, yell out “Utah! Gimme two!”
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aussie
Professional
No that's gotta be Waterworld!
Guttersnipe
Rookie
Played today with the Phantom X 18x20 (last gen blue steel Topographic map)
I’ve been coaching my mate & focusing on his many bad habits that and this frame is the ultimate ball feeding machine!
With my janky set up with the ultra dense pattern combined with PTP 1.25 it doesn’t grip/bite the ball well at all tbh...means even when I do hit with pace (focusing to get it in the strike zone of my mate, so we can have decent rallies lol) my shots aren’t that heavy or packed with much top spin.
Great for having a hit but I’d never take it out for competitive singles, it’s SO plush & fast though the air but needs a stiffer/twisted string & extra wight in the hoop (it’s almost too thin with no backbone & gives you nothing for free...with all that being said, it’s also the beauty of the Phantoms)
I’ve been coaching my mate & focusing on his many bad habits that and this frame is the ultimate ball feeding machine!
With my janky set up with the ultra dense pattern combined with PTP 1.25 it doesn’t grip/bite the ball well at all tbh...means even when I do hit with pace (focusing to get it in the strike zone of my mate, so we can have decent rallies lol) my shots aren’t that heavy or packed with much top spin.
Great for having a hit but I’d never take it out for competitive singles, it’s SO plush & fast though the air but needs a stiffer/twisted string & extra wight in the hoop (it’s almost too thin with no backbone & gives you nothing for free...with all that being said, it’s also the beauty of the Phantoms)
Gee
Hall of Fame
What is your level?
I play with the Phantom 100x 18x20 (blue steel one) customized with 4 grams of lead (spread out at 11-1) that increased the swingweight to 338. Total weight 346 grams with overgrip and strung with TF Multifeel 1.25 at 24/23 kg tension.
With this setup it has a surprising big sweetspot with a good mix of control, spin and power. The feel/comfort is very nice as well what the Phantoms are known for.
To increase the power potential I would recommend you a more powerful string like multi or natural gut or a soft poly strung very low (below 50 lbs). Adding some lead at the upper hoop also helps a lot. Definitely don't string it with a stiff poly string.
Guttersnipe
Rookie
Was a high ranking Jr (div 2) who got back into the spot at the tail end of the COVID pandemic but never got back into pennants, had some quality hitting partners that I’d have to forego to join a pennants league.
Originally I had Miyami Tour Hex and it had so much more bite. I’ve gone lead crazy and added 4g @ 3&9, 2g @ 10&2, 2g @ 12 with a whopping static weight of 353 (with shockie). Without a damper on contact it had a strange buzz, the extra weight makes it feel rock solid but still find the flex & round beam just don’t do it for me (as a main driver).
Hot take: 18x20 best suits a 95 that has less wind drag & super is whippy (making racquet head speed a breeze) but you’re right about the huge sweet spot
Can’t stand using multi & Gut isn’t in the budget, I’m a Pros Pro poly kinda guy
How did you get on with the Twistpower x105?
I've just ordered one. I already use a Dunlop CX 200 OS so it shouldn't be a big transition. I'm going to get the X105 up to 300g then go from there.
Lord of the Crags
New User
I gave an update a page or two back:
I have too many racquets and just started stringing over the winter so I end up noodling around with new strings etc in the many racquets and thus don't have time to do a deep dive on any one in particular...I'm sure others out there can feel my pain...
Anyhow, I recently restrung the X105 with Prince Vortex 16g @ 55lbs (the UC seemed to give inconsistent launch angle, and I upped the tension to give some more control, as the 105 head size doesn't need any power boost from the string bed) and added a few grams up at the 10 and 2 positions. I found that adding some weight was key to getting my serves to land in the service box vs consistently landing long. It may benefit with an addition of even more up in the hoop, but I don't want to add too much or it will again become too powerful for consistent groundstrokes and loose some maneuverability, but that's a story for a different day...
I'm a singles baseliner. I usually play with either a Ripstick , a Synergy 98 or more recently a Dunlop SX300 tour. The X105 does well in this arena as well, but tends to not give me as penetrating a shot as the other two options. The large head is great for saving me on defensive shots, but it also seems to tend to send back a loopier ball on most of my shots instead of an attacking shot when desired. Again, if I spent more time playing with this racquet instead of playing around with the others I could probably dial that in better.
Now, a new horizon opened up for me yesterday-I played my first doubles game in a looooong time. I think I may have only EVER played doubles like 6 times total in my life. I pulled the x105 out of the bag as I figured it could suit doubles even better than singles. YUP! Light, maneuverable, big sweet spot, great slices, good spin on easy swings, and felt great at the net (I'm usually horrible at the net in a singles match). It's not a rocket launcher for serves, but very consistent and adds a good amount of spin. Extremely fun racquet on the doubles court!
Definitely feel that stringing it in the middle of the specified tension range (55lbs) at least for better control is the way to go. It's probably more powerful than the CX200 OS, based on frame thickness. Anyhow, there's plenty of room to customize at a starting weight of 290g for the frame. I played with it stock a couple of times, but that wasn't quite my cup of tea. Adding a few grams here and there gives it a much more solid feel. I'm still dialing it in. Very nice racquet in my opinion. I've been too busy with work lately to get out and do more testing with it. But I have it right here by my desk, looking good!
All of that is good to hear. Thanks for getting back to me.
I'm always looking for more free power without having to use something too stiff. I thought the x105 would fit the bill. I was thinking of getting a pure aero or the Vcore 100 but I saw one of these on sale and went for it. I play with a western grip and a lot of spin so the rounder face should give me a forgiving large spin window.
I've strung mine with hyper G soft at 46lbs, which is the highest tension I've used in some time. I'm usually at 43/40.
I'll come back with some thoughts of my own once I've used it. As long as it feels relatively comfortable I'm sure I'll like it.
My first impression of the new Phantom 100X is that it's a slight improvement from the previous gen. It feels more solid overall. There's less flex in the throat compared to the last gen which is a welcomed change. My only knock is that off-centered shots tend to lose power and land short. I suspect it has to do with the dense center vs the spaced pattern on the outside. This racquet is anemic in stock form. It's a perfect mod racquet imo. A leather grip and lead at 3&9 really transforms it into a weapon. The pj is just whatever and no it doesn't look better in person but it is what it is. Overall, I'm happy to say I'll continue playing with it as I've really enjoyed it so far.
Early goings with the Phantom 100x 18x20, but it's a nice stick. Mine demo came in a little underspec and I didn't bother hitting it stock - immediately added some weight to the hoop and right now it comes in at 346g/31.7cm/335SW fully dressed. Compared to my Blade Pro (modded to around 342g/32.2cm/333SW), the Phantom is...
Power: Lower. Not unexpected. The Phantom is not anemic but it demands full strokes that travel through the ball. The Blade Pro will generate more depth for free. It will also play better defense on the stretch.
Control: Higher, owing both to lower power and also a lower launch angle. I tend to miss long vs in the net, so this was a welcome change.
Spin: Lower... but I don't think dramatically so. I think hitting with a higher launch angle stick is going to force you to use more spin to keep the ball in. Visually, the higher launch will make the ball look like it's dropping more dramatically vs. the more "line-drive" trajectory you get with the lower launch angle. I think this is why some people say that open patterns create an "upward-kicking" spin while closed patterns create a "forward-kicking" spin. This doesn't really make sense - topspin is topspin - but I think it's reflective of the overall ball trajectory being more line-drive with a lower launch angle.
Torsional stability/forgiveness: Lower. The Blade Pro is more stable, both from a "twisting in the hand" as well as a "power dropoff hitting off-center" perspective. Guessing due to the thinner throat on the Phantom, as well as a suspected difference in twistweight.
Maneuverability: Higher, despite the heavier specs. This is another area I think is related to a lower twistweight - I find it easier to fine-tune the angle of the racquet face compared to the blade. It may also related to the more HL balance of the Phantom. Despite the higher weight, I've actually found it easier to play longer sessions with the Phantom before the technique breaks down.
Feel: Different. I won't say one is better than the other because both are excellent. The Blade Pro gives you that pure graphite feel that is raw and a little buzzy not in a bad way and not harsh at all (buzz goes away with a damp if you use one). The feel is honest and you know exactly what is happening at contact. Good contact pure and exhilarating, while when you're off-center the racquet lets you know but it isn't uncomfortable. Not a ton of pocketing - the ball is more "in-and-out." The Phantom is more muted. You still know what is happening on the racquet, but there is some filtering under the hood. This, combined with more flexibility in general, provides a feel that is exceptionally comfortable, informative enough to let you know what you're doing right or wrong so you can adjust, but lacks the purity of the Blade Pro. The Phantom pockets more.
Overall: I'm having a lot of fun with this. I play an aggressive game and I tend to lose by overhitting. This racquet lets me take full swings with more confidence. It's harder to hit someone off the court compared to the Blade, but I've never really had problems generating power and I just miss less with the Phantom. There's also just something about the entire Phantom line that gives you this scalpel-like maneuverable feel. This isn't surprising with a racquet like the 93p (RIP)... but I think it's remarkable that a 100 sq in stick like the 100x still has it, even when weighted up. Would be very interested if someone could stick this on a Briffidi to measure the TW.
Anyway, something I plan to keep hitting with.
Power: Lower. Not unexpected. The Phantom is not anemic but it demands full strokes that travel through the ball. The Blade Pro will generate more depth for free. It will also play better defense on the stretch.
Control: Higher, owing both to lower power and also a lower launch angle. I tend to miss long vs in the net, so this was a welcome change.
Spin: Lower... but I don't think dramatically so. I think hitting with a higher launch angle stick is going to force you to use more spin to keep the ball in. Visually, the higher launch will make the ball look like it's dropping more dramatically vs. the more "line-drive" trajectory you get with the lower launch angle. I think this is why some people say that open patterns create an "upward-kicking" spin while closed patterns create a "forward-kicking" spin. This doesn't really make sense - topspin is topspin - but I think it's reflective of the overall ball trajectory being more line-drive with a lower launch angle.
Torsional stability/forgiveness: Lower. The Blade Pro is more stable, both from a "twisting in the hand" as well as a "power dropoff hitting off-center" perspective. Guessing due to the thinner throat on the Phantom, as well as a suspected difference in twistweight.
Maneuverability: Higher, despite the heavier specs. This is another area I think is related to a lower twistweight - I find it easier to fine-tune the angle of the racquet face compared to the blade. It may also related to the more HL balance of the Phantom. Despite the higher weight, I've actually found it easier to play longer sessions with the Phantom before the technique breaks down.
Feel: Different. I won't say one is better than the other because both are excellent. The Blade Pro gives you that pure graphite feel that is raw and a little buzzy not in a bad way and not harsh at all (buzz goes away with a damp if you use one). The feel is honest and you know exactly what is happening at contact. Good contact pure and exhilarating, while when you're off-center the racquet lets you know but it isn't uncomfortable. Not a ton of pocketing - the ball is more "in-and-out." The Phantom is more muted. You still know what is happening on the racquet, but there is some filtering under the hood. This, combined with more flexibility in general, provides a feel that is exceptionally comfortable, informative enough to let you know what you're doing right or wrong so you can adjust, but lacks the purity of the Blade Pro. The Phantom pockets more.
Overall: I'm having a lot of fun with this. I play an aggressive game and I tend to lose by overhitting. This racquet lets me take full swings with more confidence. It's harder to hit someone off the court compared to the Blade, but I've never really had problems generating power and I just miss less with the Phantom. There's also just something about the entire Phantom line that gives you this scalpel-like maneuverable feel. This isn't surprising with a racquet like the 93p (RIP)... but I think it's remarkable that a 100 sq in stick like the 100x still has it, even when weighted up. Would be very interested if someone could stick this on a Briffidi to measure the TW.
Anyway, something I plan to keep hitting with.
Switching rackets for the first time since like 2015. ATS Tour 100P is the truth.
I learned to play on an O3 Tour 100, and still have it. My Blade 16x19 is too difficult to use when I have 5 minutes to warm up or have not played in a month+ (my blade is like 12 ounces) so I wanted an easier racket to use.
I demoed the 100P, the 100 16x19, and the diablo MP while also hitting with my O3.
I had been using my O3 for a few months and would have just used that, but I just don't like stringing it, so decided to bite the bullet and buy a modern frame.
The Diablo is such a good racket, but I think the extra .25 inches makes it slower for me, and I was shocked to see it has a lower swingweight than the Tour. Felt slightly slower on reaction volleys and returns.
The 16x18 was great, I just liked the 18x20 2% more. I thought these rackets would be further apart. Difference was pretty minimal. Good shots felt the same, but bad shots (like bad footwork or slightly off center hits) felt better.
The O3 feels great, more solid, but less forgiving, and I never managed to serve well again with the O3 tour. Idk what it is, but my timing is horrible these days (last played with it in like 2013) serving with it.
The thing I don't see many people mention is that the beam seems pretty thick on the ATS tours? Seems to make it not as low power as I would think this racket should be, and makes this racket sooooooo easy to use.
I will probably string it with Cyclone tour, multi crosses, but also try full Cyclone. I think I want just a very normal roundish poly in this racket. TW's cheapo poly actually felt pretty great in it.
I'm officially a hipster Prince user again.
I learned to play on an O3 Tour 100, and still have it. My Blade 16x19 is too difficult to use when I have 5 minutes to warm up or have not played in a month+ (my blade is like 12 ounces) so I wanted an easier racket to use.
I demoed the 100P, the 100 16x19, and the diablo MP while also hitting with my O3.
I had been using my O3 for a few months and would have just used that, but I just don't like stringing it, so decided to bite the bullet and buy a modern frame.
The Diablo is such a good racket, but I think the extra .25 inches makes it slower for me, and I was shocked to see it has a lower swingweight than the Tour. Felt slightly slower on reaction volleys and returns.
The 16x18 was great, I just liked the 18x20 2% more. I thought these rackets would be further apart. Difference was pretty minimal. Good shots felt the same, but bad shots (like bad footwork or slightly off center hits) felt better.
The O3 feels great, more solid, but less forgiving, and I never managed to serve well again with the O3 tour. Idk what it is, but my timing is horrible these days (last played with it in like 2013) serving with it.
The thing I don't see many people mention is that the beam seems pretty thick on the ATS tours? Seems to make it not as low power as I would think this racket should be, and makes this racket sooooooo easy to use.
I will probably string it with Cyclone tour, multi crosses, but also try full Cyclone. I think I want just a very normal roundish poly in this racket. TW's cheapo poly actually felt pretty great in it.
I'm officially a hipster Prince user again.
I played a league match on my first outing with the Twistpower x105. I won 6-3 6-2 against an opponent who had previously beaten me.
I added a + half size shrink sleeve to the handle to get my racket up to 300g unstrung, and 2g split between 10 and 2.
I played very well and it ticked the boxes I was aiming for.
Spin- lots of spin on my western forehand due to the fast feeling head and large spin window.
Comfort- This racket isn't as plush as the CX 200 OS, but it has a pleasing flex on impact and feels really predictable. I'd previously had to take a 15 month break from poly strings due to shoulder tendonitis. I used this racket with Hyper G soft at 46lbs and didn't notice any discomfort on mishits etc.
Power- Easy depth and pace on groundstrokes, but I didn't feel like I was hitting particularly heavy serves.
Serves- Easy to serve with and great spin for kick serves. Again I didn't notice any free power over my CX 200 OS.
Backhand- It initially felt lacking in plough through on my 2 handed back hand, but by the end of the match I got used to it and was striking the ball much better.
Overall- I think this is the great racket in my configuration, and is much more comfortable / less jaring than a babolat etc. I'm happy with the purchase.
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longtimelurker
Professional
@Jackson Heights think you will get a better answer here!
I've never used the Beast 104, but the Twistpower x105 feels almost identical on impact to the Beast 107 (the black and red one). I think the x105 flexes a little more though.
I've played two more matches with the x105. It's really easy to use and the power level isn't crazy, so offers good control.
You can put so much spin on the ball with hyper G soft. My last opponent said I had the highest bouncing kick serve he'd ever seen (that's nice to hear haha).
I've had some shoulder tendonitis issues this last few years, and I've been able to play pain free with the Dunlop CX 200 OS with poly at low tensions (43/40lbs).
I have to say, that my shoulder has been pretty stiff the day after playing matches with the Twistpower with Hyper G soft at 47/44lbs.
The racket feels comfortable, so I'm not sure if it's the strings or the tension that may be causing me some discomfort. I haven't gone this tight in tension in years, and I've never used hyper G soft before. I get no TE/GE with this racket at all.
Crocodile
G.O.A.T.
It will be interesting to see how sales of the new Phantoms go for Prince and whether phantom users will like the updated.
Also interesting to see whether there will be any more variants or whether this is it,
I read that the 100P has a slightly lower swing weight - I’m not sure I would like that;
Also interesting to see whether there will be any more variants or whether this is it,
I read that the 100P has a slightly lower swing weight - I’m not sure I would like that;
Indeed. IMHO, the Tour 100P is Prince's best overall frame by a decent margin, and one of the most balanced designs on the market.
morekimchi
New User
How about a re-release of the CTS Approach Midplus? Loved that entire CTS line.
Tennis1337
New User
Tennisnerds first impressions are out. He tried all the Phantoms and really likes them especially the 100X 305. Plays stiffer than 59RA and bigger sweetspot than previous. Harder to swing 100P and 100X 18x20.
I don't see it. You have a link?
Tennis1337
New User
Its on patreon. Cant share.
Guttersnipe
Rookie
Tennis Nerd seems like he doesn’t care anymore & is just going through the motions...miss the golden period over C19 when he was pumping out fresh content.
Sorry but I’m never going to give money to paytreon, YT or any third party service. For real your best content should be front and centre to attract more viewers and not locked behind a paywall.
konstantinos kalfountzos
Hall of Fame
Agreed. Upon this, all these "subtle" upgdates we hear about cannot be a coincidence.
Seems like everyone is more interested in betting these days. Youtube/facebook/instagram/pre-game-commercials are flooded with bet websites, tipsters etc.
I've never looked into what kind of bets can be done on a tennis match. It would ruin my focus on the match and would make me see "fixed stuff" everywhere.
Also, LOTS of podcasts. Some of them are golden (like AC Tennis), but I haven't watched several of the rest.
loosegroove
Hall of Fame
I assume it will be released, just patreon members have early access. Can’t fault a guy for trying to create some revenue for himself in that context.
PBODY99
Legend
I wonder if any of the new Prince Japan frames will make it to the other parts of the globe ?
But that’s not HIS impression. That’s someone else lol.
I joined Patreon's free trial ;-D to listen to Tennisnerd's impression on the new Prince Phantom 100x 305. He spoke pretty highly of the racket. He says this is his favorite new racket in a long time, and he is confident that he can (actually he did) use it to play in a tournament.
This made me want to try the new version as I am now using the 2020 version.
This made me want to try the new version as I am now using the 2020 version.
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loosegroove
Hall of Fame
Well that sounds promising. I’m already making the switch in my mind and the racket hasn’t even arrived yet.
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Guttersnipe
Rookie
It seems his opinion hasn’t changed much since the first phantom reviews from 4 years ago now, he also liked the X-305...I hope that prince has secretly sponsored him, so more people would willing to test one out lol.
