Prince Official - Racquets


Summary by ChatGPT, with timestamp links to each bullet point:
  • 00:04: Introduction of Tim Puttock from Prince, Director of R&D.
  • 00:34: Discussion on the new Phantoms, improvements from previous generations, focus on balancing power and feel.
  • 01:04: Challenges of evolving popular frames like the Phantom, aiming for a balance between flexibility and modern power needs.
  • 04:18: Cosmetic changes in the new Phantom, introduction of a military green color.
  • 07:29: Importance of addressing different player demographics and regions with tailored models.
  • 10:17: Insights on why the Phantom line suits high-level players seeking control and a softer feel.
  • 12:37: Personal preferences of Tim Puttock, favoring the 1820 Phantom for its control.
  • 24:08: Mention of upcoming updates to the RipStick line and introduction of the RipCord line, highlighting differences between them.
  • 27:20: Emphasis on cosmetic design aligning with the brand’s identity and evolving trends.
  • 40:42: Importance of Prince’s history in their design philosophy, bringing back or updating classic frames.
  • 48:04: Acknowledgement of the role of unique string patterns like 16x18 in their rackets, ensuring playability through careful design.
  • 59:24: Discussion on how social media and influencers can help smaller brands like Prince reach a broader audience.
  • 55:39: Encouragement for players to test different rackets and not rely solely on specs.
  • 47:32: Future plans for Prince to continue innovating and introducing new technologies while honoring their past.
 
I will watch it asap
Well, I just learned the Ripcord exists.

Sounds like Tim is very excited about what the "Rip" line will look like in 2025 (for those who didn't watch the video, there will be the Ripstick with O-ports and the Ripcord with lower swingweight and more traditional feel). I assume Europe and Japan's Beast line will be the last iteration to make way for the Rip line.

I'll be curious to try the Ripcord. I've played an O3 Red before, and I guess I'm just picky about feel and prefer no O-ports, so I've never given the Ripstick a try. But it sounds like the Ripstick has actually been successful enough for Prince to continue investing in it, which I find impressive, so maybe I should give it a shot.
 
A new O3 100 , sweet
I really appreciate how Tim talks about this. Admitted that they didn't get the original O3 Phantom 100 right and went back to the drawing board. Seems like it's a callback to the old O3 Tours while being updated for the modern game, which is very cool.
 
Not sure if there's a version I don't know about, but the two Ripcord variations I've seen are lower weight and look like targeted toward younger junior players.


Summary by ChatGPT, with timestamp links to each bullet point:
  • 00:04: Introduction of Tim Puttock from Prince, Director of R&D.
  • 00:34: Discussion on the new Phantoms, improvements from previous generations, focus on balancing power and feel.
  • 01:04: Challenges of evolving popular frames like the Phantom, aiming for a balance between flexibility and modern power needs.
  • 04:18: Cosmetic changes in the new Phantom, introduction of a military green color.
  • 07:29: Importance of addressing different player demographics and regions with tailored models.
  • 10:17: Insights on why the Phantom line suits high-level players seeking control and a softer feel.
  • 12:37: Personal preferences of Tim Puttock, favoring the 1820 Phantom for its control.
  • 24:08: Mention of upcoming updates to the RipStick line and introduction of the RipCord line, highlighting differences between them.
  • 27:20: Emphasis on cosmetic design aligning with the brand’s identity and evolving trends.
  • 40:42: Importance of Prince’s history in their design philosophy, bringing back or updating classic frames.
  • 48:04: Acknowledgement of the role of unique string patterns like 16x18 in their rackets, ensuring playability through careful design.
  • 59:24: Discussion on how social media and influencers can help smaller brands like Prince reach a broader audience.
  • 55:39: Encouragement for players to test different rackets and not rely solely on specs.
  • 47:32: Future plans for Prince to continue innovating and introducing new technologies while honoring their past.
Wow, what a good idea. I must be getting old lol. Didn't even occur to me to try this.

Only missed two crucial points for racqueholics:
-that the Beast likely isn't coming to the USA so far, and focussing on 4 major model families(Tour, Phantoms, Legacy, Rip), timestamp around 38:00
-and the already mentioned updated O3 Phantom Tour 100 that has more of the the old O3 Exo Tour 100 DNA, timestamp around 42:00
 
Well, I just learned the Ripcord exists.

Sounds like Tim is very excited about what the "Rip" line will look like in 2025 (for those who didn't watch the video, there will be the Ripstick with O-ports and the Ripcord with lower swingweight and more traditional feel). I assume Europe and Japan's Beast line will be the last iteration to make way for the Rip line.

I'll be curious to try the Ripcord. I've played an O3 Red before, and I guess I'm just picky about feel and prefer no O-ports, so I've never given the Ripstick a try. But it sounds like the Ripstick has actually been successful enough for Prince to continue investing in it, which I find impressive, so maybe I should give it a shot.

I was eying the Ripcord, especially with it's Ripstick-like cts and low RA. But the colourway was uninspiring to me. I much prefer the Ripstick graphics, even if the 80's touches are a bit garish.
Had they gone black and yellow in the same way the limited edition 2024 Minions Clash did, I woulda been all over it. I still sorta wanna get that minions stick just for the looks.

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assume Europe and Japan's Beast line will be the last iteration to make way for the Rip line.
the ripstick was already repackaged as part of the beast line in Japan, so I think the Japanese beast line might stick around 
 
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If I was Prince, I would just do what Toroline has been doing this past year. Everyones knows Toroline now, everyone wants to try Karue's K-Pop string setup (or even buy a cracking Percept 100D).

I wouldn't care so much about ATP and WTA players endoring Prince for the time being. Make PRINCE COOL again!

The molds are there, it's just a marketing challenge.

I've used the Synergy 98 18x18: a bit too high swingweight for me, but great for flat hitting.
Now playing the 2015 Tour 95.
Also, using the ATS98: much more stable than most 98 I've tried, pretty damn good mold, 8 main strings in the throat, excellent cosmetics upclose.
At least, Prince gives as molds that stand out and make tennis exciting, rather than reissuing "updates" that have minor changes to the previous models.

I could see myself buying the ATS98 in grip size 3, but first I'd like to try the 290 gram, 16x18 Tour 100.
Then, lots of funky and entertaining frames to choose from.

As for the Beast line, I'm seeing it staying. They just need to "push" it a bit more as it is now or bring the Zylon tech in it and push it asap. I don't see why I would not pick the Beast 100, if I was looking for a typical tweener for a much better price, not as demanding/controlled as the 100 Tours maybe.
 
It's a bit of shame that the Beast likely won't return to the USA. Just watched a PH Tennis review of it where they remark that the 100 plays like an even more precise EZone 100, which I would be highly interested in:


May have to pull the trigger on one or two from TWE and bring 'em across the pond myself, as they're dirt cheap right now.

They also seemed to very much enjoy the 98 as well:

 
It's a bit of shame that the Beast likely won't return to the USA. Just watched a PH Tennis review of it where they remark that the 100 plays like an even more precise EZone 100, which I would be highly interested in:

May have to pull the trigger on one or two from TWE and bring 'em across the pond myself, as they're dirt cheap right now.

They also seemed to very much enjoy the 98 as well:
Pretty hard to unsee the 2019 glossy red-wine Japenese version... Then some orange and red, but they got back to black for the latest 2024 Beast 98.

Good thing now is I got access to the ATS98 from a coach who has 2 of the same (L2 though). I've played 2 hours and only have positive things to report. Need more playtime with it through.

Yesterday, I played 1+ hours with the 2015 Tour 95 after a long time. Found the launch angle significantly higher than my go-to Blade V5 16x19.

I'll make sure the following weeks I'll be posting some hitting clips with the ATS98, Tour 95 2015 and maybe the 2019 Tour 100 O3 16x18.
 
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If I was Prince, I would just do what Toroline has been doing this past year.

I wouldn't care so much about ATP and WTA players endoring Prince for the time being. Make PRINCE COOL again!
No shade on Toroline but Prince is Neil Young, Toroline is f&$ckign bright eyes.

I would care about WTA and ATP. Pros are cool. Karue is cool because he is a PRO

Yonex gets it. 10 years ago no one on this board would be caught dead playing a Yonex. It was buckethead, @XFactorer and like 4 other dudes.
 
No shade on Toroline but Prince is Neil Young, Toroline is f&$ckign bright eyes.

I would care about WTA and ATP. Pros are cool. Karue is cool because he is a PRO

Yonex gets it. 10 years ago no one on this board would be caught dead playing a Yonex. It was buckethead, @XFactorer and like 4 other dudes.
You know what I mean by going Toroline-mode from a marketing perspective. Easier and more immediate exposure to make Prince cool again. Karue decided to go pro-mode again just one year ago and is not (yet) a typical ATP player the median consumer. The median consumer needs to see Prince rackets used online by Instagramers and Youtubers like Karue etc. That's what I think at least. Getting top 100 pros may be too expensive right now, like I'm not seeing any top 100 pro using Volkl, Solinco or Diadem (singles, I don't watch doubles).
 
No shade on Toroline but Prince is Neil Young, Toroline is f&$ckign bright eyes.

I would care about WTA and ATP. Pros are cool. Karue is cool because he is a PRO

Yonex gets it. 10 years ago no one on this board would be caught dead playing a Yonex. It was buckethead, @XFactorer and like 4 other dudes.
I don’t get the music analogy? Neil young far more known than bright eyes simple because of time in the market, bright eyes more favorably thought of among the millennial generation, but still few people’s favorite? Don’t get it.
 
Getting top 100 pros may be too expensive right now, like I'm not seeing any top 100 pro using Volkl, Solinco or Diadem (singles, I don't watch doubles).
New strategy guys, make doubles cool.

#2 and #29 use Prince
It's a bit of shame that the Beast likely won't return to the USA. Just watched a PH Tennis review of it where they remark that the 100 plays like an even more precise EZone 100, which I would be highly interested in:


May have to pull the trigger on one or two from TWE and bring 'em across the pond myself, as they're dirt cheap right now.
FOMO is very strong right now

Edit: I just realized unstrung balance is 315mm, I might have to figure something out lol
 
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Hrm, the look is growing on me...and I always thought they could use some cts working over...
Look more shinny - almost glossy - under the sunlight. That's why I'm always urging people to post some photos from the courts to see the rackets in their natural environment.
I'm sold for the 16x18 Phantom 100X. If they stick to the 3-4 year gap, it's worth the investment.
Now, hitting the 2015 95 Tour.
Will thoroughly hit the ATS98.
Really interested in the 100X Phantom 16x18. I was dead wrong about the paint job. It's not camo. It's a two tone military green and forrest green.
 
I really appreciate how Tim talks about this. Admitted that they didn't get the original O3 Phantom 100 right and went back to the drawing board. Seems like it's a callback to the old O3 Tours while being updated for the modern game, which is very cool.
If they can go back to the best of the o-port frames - the orange/black Tour 100 18/20 and 16/18 (both 310g unstrung) - same mold, minimal tinkering with the layup and update the colorway, they've got the ported frames that really highlight all the best features of ports.
 
You know what I mean by going Toroline-mode from a marketing perspective. Easier and more immediate exposure to make Prince cool again. Karue decided to go pro-mode again just one year ago and is not (yet) a typical ATP player the median consumer. The median consumer needs to see Prince rackets used online by Instagramers and Youtubers like Karue etc. That's what I think at least. Getting top 100 pros may be too expensive right now, like I'm not seeing any top 100 pro using Volkl, Solinco or Diadem (singles, I don't watch doubles).
People on this forum or following tennis Youtubers/bloggers are definitely not a high percentage of the market.
The majority of players at recreational level never heard of Toroline.
So I'm not sure how much Prince would really benefit of such exposure, but better than nothing for sure.
 
People on this forum or following tennis Youtubers/bloggers are definitely not a high percentage of the market.
The majority of players at recreational level never heard of Toroline.
So I'm not sure how much Prince would really benefit of such exposure, but better than nothing for sure.
I do think people like us on this forum are a minority of the market pie. At the same time, youngsters will spend lots of hours in front of the black mirror (aka Cell Phone).
The most immediate route to communicate products is Instagram, then YouTube (reviews) and then webshops. Forums are out of the question.
 
I enjoyed that podcast. I still remember the teaser photo of the 03 ported camo phantom that was quickly taken down. I'm surprised it wasn't released at the same time.
 
Look more shinny - almost glossy - under the sunlight. That's why I'm always urging people to post some photos from the courts to see the rackets in their natural environment.
I'm sold for the 16x18 Phantom 100X. If they stick to the 3-4 year gap, it's worth the investment.
Now, hitting the 2015 95 Tour.
Will thoroughly hit the ATS98.
Really interested in the 100X Phantom 16x18. I was dead wrong about the paint job. It's not camo. It's a two tone military green and forrest green.
As a user of the 2020 version of the 100X (305g), I am also interested in the update. I still have three rackets in good condition, so I'm not sure I can take the plunge on the new one.

Really happy to see that Prince kept the price at $200! It has to be one of the best deals out there, especially when there is a sale that takes it to $150.

I wouldn't say you were "dead wrong" about the paint. I mean, if you google 'green camo' or something similar, you get the colors of the 2024 Phantom. I think the paint job looks fine and I would have no problem using it, but I think Puttock was trying to downplay the camo aspect in order to put a more neutral spin on it. Camo sounds like a narrow aesthetic preference. (I suppose I prefer the color schemes on the the first two versions of the Phantom, but I'm sure the new one will grow on me.)
 
It is not that they do not have good designers — they do. Just look at the Japanese models. Gorgeous! But some loose arts community college graduate took control of the US office, and correspondingly the US
( non-) sales.
 
It's a bit of shame that the Beast likely won't return to the USA. Just watched a PH Tennis review of it where they remark that the 100 plays like an even more precise EZone 100, which I would be highly interested in:


May have to pull the trigger on one or two from TWE and bring 'em across the pond myself, as they're dirt cheap right now.

They also seemed to very much enjoy the 98 as well:

I think you really really should! Remind me what you racquet history looks like? Or what are you favourite racquets?

I tried the previous global Beast version(wow has there really only been one?) and the Warrior, though I think it was a reissue I'm not sure, and wasn't overly impressed by either. But this one fixed everything I was worried with! I only bought it because I was betting on the ATS tech and I really like the paint job plus price and I was right! I bought it before I i learned there was a 98 coming or saw those review videos and had no knowledge of them, so that would have been helpful but the 100 plays really great!

It is like they say, it plays like you would expect from a 100 sq inch racquet but really well, great control, like you know where the ball is going to go, but you can't quite feel it 100% like you would want is the only knock. It's not bad at all, but I wouldn't put poly strings that lack touch in it, putting a disservice to all the other aspects that it excels at. Doesn't really feel chunky to me at all, but I've customised it to how I like. I do admit I'm I don't like the balance more racquets come in stock as.
 
Prince need to promote that the Tour 100 as the Aero/Ezone Killer.

The spin potential with the Uber open 16x18 & the mega high launch angle (packed with comfort) would benefit 80% of new or rec players that have a simple low to high stroke mechanic...it’s almost like playing with training wheels on, that impedes my flat shots and knifing slices (where a 18x20 tight pattern would shine)

I own a 310 tour (Green), 2020 Japanese Tour 100 & another Tour 95” 2020 (white and black) and I’m very aware of string tension loss and the 310 tour is the worst I’ve ever used.
3 hits at most and stringbed is cooked...I’m using thick gauge round poly that has a huge amount of snap back & is durable...haven’t found a string or felt it worth while to experiment when dealing the tension maintenance is throwing money down the drain, it’s simply not worth the trade off.

The 95 16x19 has much better spacing and holds tension like an average (tweener) frame does. It’s great but it’s a chunky feeling 95
 
The spin potential with the Uber open 16x18 & the mega high launch angle (packed with comfort) would benefit 80% of new or rec players that have a simple low to high stroke mechanic...it’s almost like playing with training wheels on, that impedes my flat shots and knifing slices (where a 18x20 tight pattern would shine)

I own a 310 tour (Green), 2020 Japanese Tour 100 & another Tour 95” 2020 (white and black) and I’m very aware of string tension loss and the 310 tour is the worst I’ve ever used.
3 hits at most and stringbed is cooked...I’m using thick gauge round poly that has a huge amount of snap back & is durable...haven’t found a string or felt it worth while to experiment when dealing the tension maintenance is throwing money down the drain, it’s simply not worth the trade off.

The 95 16x19 has much better spacing and holds tension like an average (tweener) frame does. It’s great but it’s a chunky feeling 95
And all of this right here is why the Tour 100P is Prince's best frame, by a country mile. You get most of the power of the 100 16x18, with the precision and facial consistency benefits of an 18x20, but the most open 18x20 on the market, so it spins more like a 16-main frame. Like a Speed Pro but way more nimble and plays more like a 98 than a 100. God-level, under the radar frame. Especially the more firm 2019. Lucas Pouille knew what was up.
 
Pretty heavily implied in the podcast with Tennisnerd that more Phantoms are coming, but no info on what those will be… assuming 93s and maybe 97?
He directly stated "more phantoms are in the pipeline" at one point. Based on the interview, the o3 phantom 100 seems like the next release, and I got the impression that at least a new 93 was a definite possibility for some regions based on his "stories need to be told" comment. I would be excited about anything in the 93-97 inch range.
 
And all of this right here is why the Tour 100P is Prince's best frame, by a country mile. You get most of the power of the 100 16x18, with the precision and facial consistency benefits of an 18x20, but the most open 18x20 on the market, so it spins more like a 16-main frame. Like a Speed Pro but way more nimble and plays more like a 98 than a 100. God-level, under the radar frame. Especially the more firm 2019. Lucas Pouille knew what was up.
Need to try the Tour 100p out but I’ve got other 18x20s that I love and would chose them over it...

Idk if I’m in the minority but the Synergy 98 plays really nicely, same with a leaded up 100x 18x20 (350g strung with Og and shockie) that fills my thin beam ultra flex itch.

I still think the Twistpower97x is the best playing Prince racquet (it’s so forgiving, with its top tier feel, stability & spin) but doesn’t have that cracking serve. If I had the balls to serve with one frame and return with another, it would hands down, be my return stick.
 
@Guttersnipe - Yeah there are some other 18x20's that are certainly compelling. I tried the Synergy 98, ultimately thought it was just OK. A bit too pillow-y for my taste. Not enough thud factor. And while I think the concept of the TwistPower is cool, and I enjoyed the X97 Tour myself, I just couldn't condone the lack of supply chain and model continuity within the silo. It's that kind of stuff that has reduced pretty much anything other than Tours and Warriors to more or less novelty items, which, while they're fun to bring out for a hit now and then, can't really be relied upon for much more than that. A shame, really.
 
He directly stated "more phantoms are in the pipeline" at one point. Based on the interview, the o3 phantom 100 seems like the next release, and I got the impression that at least a new 93 was a definite possibility for some regions based on his "stories need to be told" comment. I would be excited about anything in the 93-97 inch range.
Fingers crossed. I think a 97 is more in line w modern times than the 93, but tradition might save the 93. I hope we see both.

I'm currently loving my 3 powerflex 90s. If they made these in 97, I'd probably be set for life.
 
Idk if I’m in the minority but the Synergy 98 plays really nicely, same with a leaded up 100x 18x20 (350g strung with Og and shockie) that fills my thin beam ultra flex itch.
Don't remember if I have already posted my first attempt of a racket review:
The swingweight was a bit too high for me, like was the case with the Prestige MP 18x19 2021 and a brief experience with a BLX Six.One 95 18x20.
I had also stated that it requires long swingpath a la Medvedev (big takeback).
Another guy I had given it to try, who plays with Blades V7 18x20, says he didn't find the stringbed consistent. Could be lots of things.
In my case, I could see myself using it for baseline grinding only. For much play, I need something lighter.

 
Prince need to promote that the Tour 100 as the Aero/Ezone Killer.
Call me crazy but the 100 16x18 might be a more user friendly Pure Aero 98

I haven't hit them back to back or anything but if you like the launch angle and hit the sweetspot consistently, the Aero 98 makes you feel like you can do anything.

The Tour makes me feel the same way but is easier to play with, and outside of individual stroke mechanics that might favor the Aero more, you don't lose much imo
 
The Tour makes me feel the same way but is easier to play with, and outside of individual stroke mechanics that might favor the Aero more, you don't lose much imo
And the 2019 Tour 100P is like the offspring of a G360+ Radical MP, an Aero VS (less-polarized PA98) and a WhiteOut 18x20. Which is mostly a good thing, provided you weight it up a bit and string it low/thin enough.
 
And all of this right here is why the Tour 100P is Prince's best frame, by a country mile. You get most of the power of the 100 16x18, with the precision and facial consistency benefits of an 18x20, but the most open 18x20 on the market, so it spins more like a 16-main frame. Like a Speed Pro but way more nimble and plays more like a 98 than a 100. God-level, under the radar frame. Especially the more firm 2019. Lucas Pouille knew what was up.
Pouille uses a 2015 100P under PJ 2019. And I have to agree with him, the 2015 version is far superior.
 
Call me crazy but the 100 16x18 might be a more user friendly Pure Aero 98

I haven't hit them back to back or anything but if you like the launch angle and hit the sweetspot consistently, the Aero 98 makes you feel like you can do anything.

The Tour makes me feel the same way but is easier to play with, and outside of individual stroke mechanics that might favor the Aero more, you don't lose much imo
Interesting that you say this. I was playing with an ATS 100 310 a few days ago and broke a string. My partner let me borrow his Pure Aero 98 and I was surprised at how similar it felt.
 
Not to doubt you, but how can we know for sure?
Likely because he has been seen using the 100P since at least 2016-17...
And most pros tend to use a more flexible version of retail racquets, being as they use weight for power, control, and stability. They do not need the stiffness a light racquet requires to be stable and powerful.
 
Why would he have a paintjob and no stencil?
Look at the RA of the racket he used, do you really believe he would switch to the version with a higher RA?

 
Look at the RA of the racket he used, do you really believe he would switch to the version with a higher RA?

Nice share. Pros have been known to switch generations every now and then. It's not in the realm of impossible. But that being said, I have no problem standing corrected here. He may indeed still be using the 2015. And this certainly adds evidence to the case.
 
Call me crazy but the 100 16x18 might be a more user friendly Pure Aero 98

I haven't hit them back to back or anything but if you like the launch angle and hit the sweetspot consistently, the Aero 98 makes you feel like you can do anything.

The Tour makes me feel the same way but is easier to play with, and outside of individual stroke mechanics that might favor the Aero more, you don't lose much imo

The ATS is truly a modern Prince. Pity about the graphics, but we'll see how they go about rectifying that here shortly.
I find it fairly easy to go between my ATS 100 and my ATS Ripstick.
 
Aside from the Wimbledon version, are they not the same graphic?
Slight difference. Easiest tell is the throat. 2019 version doesn't have power level on it.

Look at the RA of the racket he used, do you really believe he would switch to the version with a higher RA?

I don't really care but it's plausible. He did come back to a 2019 100P paintjob after a switch to the Pure Drive, so a bit higher stiffness might not have been an issue. 2019 versions may have been easier to source since he had to do that independently, and maybe he thought they were an improvement given his Pure Drive fling.

I can see how the 2015 version would be peak if you like the softer feel and no ATS.
 
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