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loosegroove said:
I guess this one is harkening back to the O3 Tour MP which had an RA in the mid 60’s. Then the Ozone Tour went down to 60 and the ensuing Tours (later the line essentially became the Phantoms) went sub 60.
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I have never played with an O-port racquet but I hear they are comfortable. Seems like quite a jump in stiffness and I would be worried it would not be the same arm friendly buttery feeling Phantom I have grown used to.

If I wanted more punch in a Phantom wouldn't I be better served by using some combination of power strings and lower tension that way it retains it comfort levels?
 
nicksti said:
I have never played with an O-port racquet but I hear they are comfortable. Seems like quite a jump in stiffness and I would be worried it would not be the same arm friendly buttery feeling Phantom I have grown used to.

If I wanted more punch in a Phantom wouldn't I be better served by using some combination of power strings and lower tension that way it retains it comfort levels?
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I used to have a Beast O3 98, which had a RA of 69 (nice). Unless you completely shank it, O-ports make the stringbed way softer and more forgiving off centre than a 6 points swing in RA stiffness in either direction. You can't obtain the feel of the O-ports by tinkering with strings alone. The construction of the racket itself is that different; so much so that I advise demoing it before committing. Some really love it, some really don't. I can tell you it didn't feel anywhere near a "Babolat-esque" 69RA, that's for sure.
 
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nicksti said:
I have never played with an O-port racquet but I hear they are comfortable. Seems like quite a jump in stiffness and I would be worried it would not be the same arm friendly buttery feeling Phantom I have grown used to.

If I wanted more punch in a Phantom wouldn't I be better served by using some combination of power strings and lower tension that way it retains it comfort levels?
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Jumping from Phantom to Beast is a huge leap. They are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. Phantom is soft, dense, very low powered. Beast is fast, firm, very powerful, very spinny. For flat hitting, it is actually quite unpredictable and difficult to control. Spin - it produces like no other racquet.
I cannot see the same person equally comfortable with both of them. You have to pick sides.
 
nicksti said:
I have never played with an O-port racquet but I hear they are comfortable. Seems like quite a jump in stiffness and I would be worried it would not be the same arm friendly buttery feeling Phantom I have grown used to.

If I wanted more punch in a Phantom wouldn't I be better served by using some combination of power strings and lower tension that way it retains it comfort levels?
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IMO, a stiffer layup adds punch in a way that just tInkering with strings cannot.

I have had three o-port racquets (two soft, one relatively stiff), and the feel of each was very different, especially the 18x20. in my experience, the feel of o-ports is exaggerated in more open patterns. my favorite o-port racquet is soft with a very dense stringbed, but of the two open-pattern o-port racquets I have played with, I preferred the feel of the slightly stiffer one. my sample size is small, so ymmv.
 
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Kal-El 34 said:
Most fun racket I’ve hit with in ages. Swings like a mid. Easy power. Feels great. Very forgiving. Haven’t really found anything I don’t like about except the Pj which is also growing on me. High recommend giving it a hit. Really makes the game feel a lot easier which as I’m getting older is much appreciated. Didn’t want to like it at all and haven’t put it down. Phantom 107g is worth a look

https://imgur.com/a/80MRYGV
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Did you ever hit the older (2020, blacked-out) Phantom 107G?
 
GSlam2025 said:
Is this the new version of Phantom but JPN only :unsure:

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It looks like Japan is using the old mould for the ported phantom in 2024* (been out for a while) - 16.5-20-20mm beam

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The regular phantom in Japan is also a different mould to the one available in the west - 20-22-20mm beam.
 
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Remioli said:
One reason the blackout paint jobs need to die is because they all look exactly the same on TV. Every company has had multiple lines go through a blackout phase. Kill it with fire. Embrace colors.
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I'm begrudgingly beginning to agree with this. Love Pouille and all but he's not Novak.
 
Lukhas said:
I'm demoing the 100X 290g; I've had one session with it so far. I didn't take the 305g version since it has the same specs but with extra handle weight, which is the easiest place where to compensate weight for. A few months prior I had tried the previous 100X 18x20, and didn't care much for it: it was pretty heavy but at the same time unforgiving and lacking swingweight. News flash: the newer 100X 290g also basically has the same specs but without an extra 30 grams in the handle (and fewer strings). And it makes it a lot, LOT more pleasant to use. It was balls cold outside so I cannot really judge the launch angle, but it felt pretty fine and consistent even though I'd prefer a denser pattern. Since there's enough room in terms of weight to customize it, I'll try adding leather and weight at 3&9 and see what happens. So far it's pretty good; perhaps not 200€+ good, but it did play better than expected stock.

Prince Phantom 100X 18x20 (no OG) : 332.04g, 31.4cm, 320SW, 12.96TW ;
Prince Phantom 100X 290g (w/ OG): 311.91g, 33.1cm, 326SW, 13.02TW
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Update: I've put a leather grip on it and 6g at 3&9. That rose the twistweight by nearly a point, which obviously did wonders for forgiveness. It feels as if the handle was taped with double-sided tape and that the base grip was then wrapped around it; the whole apparatus (tape+base grip) weighs around 20 grams, and my leather grip didn't add as much weight as I thought it would. The pattern isn't my preference and I'd prefer it a bit tighter, but it's not wildly inconsistent depending of how you hit the ball; although the strings could be a factor since it's strung with "generic black round co-poly version 76973697687²". The frame doesn't bend around at impact the way some rackets as flexible or more flexible do, but it remains comfortable. The balance isn't much of a worry since the combination of the weight, swingweight and twistweight still make the racket very manoeuvrable yet solid at impact.

Prince Phantom 100X 290g: 311.91g, 33.1cm, 326SW, 13.02TW -> 321.85g, 33.1cm, 336SW, 13.92TW.
 
Lukhas said:
Update: I've put a leather grip on it and 6g at 3&9. That rose the twistweight by nearly a point, which obviously did wonders for forgiveness. It feels as if the handle was taped with double-sided tape and that the base grip was then wrapped around it; the whole apparatus (tape+base grip) weighs around 20 grams, and my leather grip didn't add as much weight as I thought it would. The pattern isn't my preference and I'd prefer it a bit tighter, but it's not wildly inconsistent depending of how you hit the ball; although the strings could be a factor since it's strung with "generic black round co-poly version 76973697687²". The frame doesn't bend around at impact the way some rackets as flexible or more flexible do, but it remains comfortable. The balance isn't much of a worry since the combination of the weight, swingweight and twistweight still make the racket very manoeuvrable yet solid at impact.

Prince Phantom 100X 290g: 311.91g, 33.1cm, 326SW, 13.02TW -> 321.85g, 33.1cm, 336SW, 13.92TW.
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Why don't consider to try the PP 100X 18x20?
 
Gee said:
Why don't consider to try the PP 100X 18x20?
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I've already tried the previous model, I've quoted myself about that for convenience, but if you have a specific question I'm happy to answer. Basically I didn't gel with it, and the 18x20 pattern cannot make me forget that the 320g is essentially the same thing but with more tail weight. It's therefore more inconvenient if you don't want it heavy or want some room to modify it.
 
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It would probably help sales if they put the new O3 Phantom 100X on the website with the rest of the Phantoms. The direct link above works but you can't navigate to it under Prince racquets. I'm not sure if the O3 is actually considered released yet?
 
time_fly said:
It would probably help sales if they put the new O3 Phantom 100X on the website with the rest of the Phantoms. The direct link above works but you can't navigate to it under Prince racquets. I'm not sure if the O3 is actually considered released yet?
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I wonder how those holes in the frame at 3 and 9 effects twist weight
 
They removed the page for the o3 100x 2025 that was accessible through search engines.

I have been hoping that they would bring out 2 frames in the lineup, one being a classic players frame with smaller head due to the nature of the lineup. Just revive the 97P with the more stable throat (zylon) and I’m sure lots of people would love it.
 
Here's a teaser for the O3 Phantom 100x. My shop got them in yesterday and I strung one up. Nothing like the v1 or v2. This is indeed an O3 Tour and is going to be a monster seller IMO. Way more free power due to the 65RA but still so soft at contact. Zero wobble (unlike previous versions) and zips thru contact like a hot knife thru butter. The beam btw is a dual taper not a cts as even TW got wrong. Engineering marvel of a stick!
 
lefty10spro said:
Here's a teaser for the O3 Phantom 100x. My shop got them in yesterday and I strung one up. Nothing like the v1 or v2. This is indeed an O3 Tour and is going to be a monster seller IMO. Way more free power due to the 65RA but still so soft at contact. Zero wobble (unlike previous versions) and zips thru contact like a hot knife thru butter. The beam btw is a dual taper not a cts as even TW got wrong. Engineering marvel of a stick!
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Where are the offical spec's for this ?
 
GSlam2025 said:
Where are the offical spec's for this ?
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Like was said above they were up, but were taken down. TW is very good about measuring a few strung racket samples before they give us the strung specs. Should be any day (or hour) now I would guess. Listed on the racket (unstrung specs) 310g, 295 SW, 31cm bal, 16x18. The one I strung (no overgrip) is 11.50 ou with a 6pts HL balance. I can't measure SW but feels about 325ish. Quite substantial but swings quick!
 
I received the 2025 Phantom 100X last week from Tennis Warehouse, strung with ALU Rough at 52 lbs, and was really excited to try it out. I’ve been a fan of Prince rackets for years, especially the O-Port technology. I grew up playing juniors with O-Port frames, trained at a major academy, and played at a DIII level. Now I play four times a week and was hoping this racket would bring back some of the magic from the older O-Port models.

After hitting with it, I have to say the racket is fantastic in many ways. The feel is excellent, the spin potential is great, and it’s just plain fun to play with. It’s got that addictive quality I always loved about the O-Port frames.

That said, there’s one major issue I ran into. When hitting heavy topspin shots, the string movement pinches and displaces the grommet at the 12 o’clock position. It completely changes the feel of the racket and makes it hard to rely on for consistent play.

I’ve already reached out to Tennis Warehouse and messaged Prince on Instagram about this. TW replied that they are aware of the issue and working with Prince to address it.

I’m posting here because I want to see if anyone else has noticed this issue. I’m not trying to complain—I really want this racket and especially Prince’s O-Port technology to be successful. It’s such a unique design, and when it works, it’s incredible. Hopefully Prince can work quickly to fix this issue.
 
T-Ace 3 said:
I received the 2025 Phantom 100X last week from Tennis Warehouse, strung with ALU Rough at 52 lbs, and was really excited to try it out. I’ve been a fan of Prince rackets for years, especially the O-Port technology. I grew up playing juniors with O-Port frames, trained at a major academy, and played at a DIII level. Now I play four times a week and was hoping this racket would bring back some of the magic from the older O-Port models.

After hitting with it, I have to say the racket is fantastic in many ways. The feel is excellent, the spin potential is great, and it’s just plain fun to play with. It’s got that addictive quality I always loved about the O-Port frames.

That said, there’s one major issue I ran into. When hitting heavy topspin shots, the string movement pinches and displaces the grommet at the 12 o’clock position. It completely changes the feel of the racket and makes it hard to rely on for consistent play.

I’ve already reached out to Tennis Warehouse and messaged Prince on Instagram about this. TW replied that they are aware of the issue and working with Prince to address it.

I’m posting here because I want to see if anyone else has noticed this issue. I’m not trying to complain—I really want this racket and especially Prince’s O-Port technology to be successful. It’s such a unique design, and when it works, it’s incredible. Hopefully Prince can work quickly to fix this issue.
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Wonder if that's why it was taken down. Sounds like an unfortunate and untimely manufacturing issue.
 
Below is part of the reply I received from TW:

“We have been made aware of the grommet issue and are in communication with manufacturers to find a solution. As of now, the O3 Phantom racquets are pulled from stock until a solution is found. We appreciate your support of the Prince brand and we hope to have some news in the coming weeks.”
 
Still not completely sure about what is meant by "pinches and displaces the grommet" since there are no grommets at 12 o'clock only ports?? No issues (yet) with the one I have strung up.
 
mixtape said:
Perhaps the grommets that are part of the head guard?
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Nope the guard simply sits on top of the port, but you are correct in your thinking because back in the day some of the guards had grommets and some were even interchangeable for a totally different feel. Gotta love Prince innovation and experimentation!
 
T-Ace 3 said:
I received the 2025 Phantom 100X last week from Tennis Warehouse, strung with ALU Rough at 52 lbs, and was really excited to try it out. I’ve been a fan of Prince rackets for years, especially the O-Port technology. I grew up playing juniors with O-Port frames, trained at a major academy, and played at a DIII level. Now I play four times a week and was hoping this racket would bring back some of the magic from the older O-Port models.

After hitting with it, I have to say the racket is fantastic in many ways. The feel is excellent, the spin potential is great, and it’s just plain fun to play with. It’s got that addictive quality I always loved about the O-Port frames.

That said, there’s one major issue I ran into. When hitting heavy topspin shots, the string movement pinches and displaces the grommet at the 12 o’clock position. It completely changes the feel of the racket and makes it hard to rely on for consistent play.

I’ve already reached out to Tennis Warehouse and messaged Prince on Instagram about this. TW replied that they are aware of the issue and working with Prince to address it.

I’m posting here because I want to see if anyone else has noticed this issue. I’m not trying to complain—I really want this racket and especially Prince’s O-Port technology to be successful. It’s such a unique design, and when it works, it’s incredible. Hopefully Prince can work quickly to fix this issue.
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when did you buy one from tw? I did not even know they had launched.
 
tele said:
when did you buy one from tw? I did not even know they had launched.
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They had them up like a week or so ago. I guess it was a soft launch because they weren’t even listed when navigating to Prince rackets. However they could be found in racket finder, using the search bar, or if you did a Google search they would pop up in the results.
 
tele said:
when did you buy one from tw? I did not even know they had launched.
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They were available for a few days before being taken offline. The link was shared on this thread.
lefty10spro said:
Nope the guard simply sits on top of the port, but you are correct in your thinking because back in the day some of the guards had grommets and some were even interchangeable for a totally different feel. Gotta love Prince innovation and experimentation!
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Yes, I was a big fan of the interchangeable grommets back in the day and used both options at different times. You can see the issue in the images below. It was sometimes worse as how much the grommets moved seemed to depend on racket speed/string movement.

That said, the racket felt fantastic, and I really enjoyed hitting with it. However, the movement of the grommets did affect the overall feel.

https://imgur.com/a/6m81XsD

https://imgur.com/a/uZeBnru
 
T-Ace 3 said:
They were available for a few days before being taken offline. The link was shared on this thread.

Yes, I was a big fan of the interchangeable grommets back in the day and used both options at different times. You can see the issue in the images below. It was sometimes worse as how much the grommets moved seemed to depend on racket speed/string movement.

That said, the racket felt fantastic, and I really enjoyed hitting with it. However, the movement of the grommets did affect the overall feel.

https://imgur.com/a/6m81XsD

https://imgur.com/a/uZeBnru
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Looks like a very fun stick, do you agree with the other poster that it is a throwback to the o3 tours of old?

In terms of power, stability and manoeuvrability all improved?

Hopefully a quick fix and then they are back up. Possibly why they left it as a silent launch until it was sorted..
 
New Prince Beast Japan has been unveiled. The Frutiger Aero looking stick is what the most recent EZone should’ve looked like.

Very nice looking paint job, much better than black/red one we have, and cooler than the previous “mango”.
 
Wonder if it’s just a case of grommets manufactured out of spec so the cross sections of the port “grommets” don’t sit flush against cross sections of the frame at the top?
 
loosegroove said:
Wonder if it’s just a case of grommets manufactured out of spec so the cross sections of the port “grommets” don’t sit flush against cross sections of the frame at the top?
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This would annoy me so bad. Just mentally knowing there is that space makes me feel like it would affect aerodynamics. Even though it's probably all in my head.
 
What happened to the prince phantoms with o ports (2025 version). This link worked in the past but now it's broken and can't find a page to buy it.
 
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