Prince Original Graphite ( POG ) Mid and OS versions

Discussion in 'Classic Racquet Talk' started by scottatuofm, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. michael valek

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    Is it still possible to locate the tour models new? The OS I mean. Anyone switched from OS to a new phantom? Or from pcg100 to a phantom?
     
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  2. makinao

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    A friend at my tennis club GAVE me a used, but latest version of the POG OS today. He got a Wilson Hammer it because it gave him more "power", and he knows that I’m one of the few, if not the only one in the club that still uses old skool “heavy” racquets. I asked him if his arm was starting to hurt, and he pointed to his elbow support. I told him to hang on to his POG if the pain escalated, but he gave it to me anyway. So now I have four, all second hand and practically giveaways, a v1 from the 1970s, a v4.0 and v4.5 from the 1980s, and this v7 from the 2010s. Hoping against hope this coming weekend afternoons will be dry.

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  3. graycrait

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    I would like to know that as well. I've gone back to my PCG 100s and bagged my Textreme Warrior 100s. I have POG/TOUR/PCG 107s as well. I'm holding out to see one of these: PHANTOM PRO 100 XR and one of these: TOUR GRAPHITE 100XR - especially this on. I may be waiting a long time. By the time these two hit the States I'll probably be able to snag a used Phantom 100 for "my price."
     
  4. Migelowsky

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    Hi =), sorry if this one doesn't qualify as a POG, I just wanted to share my new adquisition.
    This is the Prince Super Graphite 110, as far as I know is the same as the Prince Boron but for the japanese Market.
    I don't have the specs but it's a lot lighter than the POG.
    I have a first generation POG and the difference in weight is a lot.


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  5. Migelowsky

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    A question regarding the POG 1st generation ( 1 stripe , grommetless ).
    Is the handle shorter than the 4 stripes ? I like the racquet a lot and I was considering buying a 4 stripe if the handle was
    longer.
    When I play with the 1 stripe, the only downside I get is that with my 2 handed backhand my non dominant hand ist almost
    touching the lower part of the throat.
     
  6. BlueB

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    By Boron is similar in weight to 4-stripe. However, I remember when I had 1-stripers, they were heavier and had more SW then the 4-stripe.

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  7. BlueB

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    See my comments regarding weight and swung weight above, first.

    All POGs have shortish grip. Unless you go for 100 LB.

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  8. jxs653

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    Yes the handle of the 1st generation POG is shorter than the later one stripe and four stripe versions.
     
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  9. alter mann

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    Oui.
    The handle of the grommetless is similar to the Prince Classic.
     
  10. michael valek

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    If anyone has tour or straight shaft pogos they don’t want, please let me know!!
     
  11. Seth

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    Anyone else have a good bit of variance with 4-Stripes? I have a couple that are 11oz and 12oz unstrung.
     
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    Is there truth to the tennis urban legend that the oversized Head stick with crossbeam in the throat that Agassi first used when he switched to Head was actually a POG OS paint job? It took Head a couple years to make one that Agassi would accept?


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  13. jonestim

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    I haven't, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. The 4 stripe graphic was made the longest and had the most variations within it. It first came in that graphic in '87 and TW was still selling it in 2002. They were made in multiple factories in multiple countries and had small graphic changes throughout it's 15+ years.
     
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  14. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Sort of. Bollettieri arranged a contract for him with Donnay, and he hated Donnay's first attempt to make something like the Prince Graphite. He spray-painted a Graphite and gave it a Donnay stencil, fooling no one. According to Agassi's autobiography, Donnay execs were in an immediate tizzy and soon came up with a new Donnay Pro One that Agassi liked.

    His contract with Head came later, after he won Wimbledon with the Pro One. There was a legend about that, too: what I heard at the time was that his Donnay contract had a clause with a giant bonus for winning Wimbledon, a bonus Donnay (and everyone else) thought a baseliner could never claim. When he did, Donnay could no longer afford that contract, and that's when Head signed him. Or so I heard... but I don't think I read that tale in his autobiography, so maybe there's nothing to it.
     
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  15. alter mann

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    .... and he always came back to the POG OS.
     
  16. alter mann

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    Does anyone know, if the POG grommets fit to the Boron?
     
  17. jonestim

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    I just won an auction over there for three more OS in what appear to be great shape. Two Tour version and one of the most recent Classic 107 cosmetic. I will now have:
    1 Four Stripe "Oversize" - so later version
    1 Straight Shaft*
    2 Tour
    2 Classic 107

    *(one grip size larger, so I have a Wilson Feather Thin grip to make it feel like the rest and a bunch of lead to make up for the weight loss)
     
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    I just wan an auction over there for three more OS in what appear to be great shape. Two Tour version and one of the most recent Classic 107 cosmetic. I will now have:
    1 Four Stripe "Oversize" - so later version
    1 Straight Shaft (one grip size larger, so I have a Wilson Feather Thin grip to make it feel like the rest and a bunch of lead to make up for the weight loss)
    2 Tour
    2 Classic 107
     
  19. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Alter Mann, I'm going by memory here, but I believe the Graphite went straight from individual grommets to a full bumper + grommet strip, and the Boron (and never the Graphite) had a grommet strip without a bumper*. Unless I'm wrong in that recollection, then, a Graphite grommet could never fit a Boron.

    * The Precision Boron Longbody, much later, had a bumper, but that's a different frame.
     
  20. Don't Let It Bounce

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    Alter Mann, I'm going by memory here, but I believe the Graphite went straight from individual grommets to a full bumper + grommet strip, and the Boron (and never the Graphite) had a grommet strip without a bumper*. Unless I'm wrong in that recollection, then, a Graphite grommet could never fit a Boron.

    * The Precision Boron Longbody, much later, had a bumper, but that's a different frame.
     
  21. ccelis

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    Congrats on your winnings.... i have 4, 4 striped 110's. Have been using them since 1987. I demoed the 100p and the Phantom this week just to see if i was missing anything, and they are ok, but not stable enough even with lead they dont compare on touch, control or stabilty to me. What are you stringing yours with? I'm still stringing synthetic gut or multifilament at about 60lbs. I am 42 now and sometimes I think I should be using something lighter but I think my game is so used to heavy sticks that too hard to go lighter now.

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  22. jonestim

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    I am 44, but didn't take up tennis until I was 39. Over that time I have only used the POG OS as my "main stick" for all of about 3-4 months. For the last 3 months I have been using it about half the time and the other half is with a leaded up Textreme Warrior 100.

    I have strung it with full syn gut, poly/syn hybrid, and about 10-15 different full poly jobs. These days I prefer a full poly setup at around 53 lbs. My current favorite is Firewire 17 mains with Tour XC 17L crosses. A full bed of Tour XC is a bit more predictable, but doesn't have quite the spin. Another good one is Tourna Black Zone. Quite slippery and predictable. I'm going to revisit that when the new racquets come in.

    I also strung one up on Sunday with Origin mains @56 and Tour XC crosses @ 53. Hit with it for a few minutes last night and it looks to have some potential.
     
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    Wrong...
    Grommetless, individual, grommet strip, bumper grommet strip.
    The regular POG grommets might fit onto Boron. I'll try to pull them out tomorrow to compare...

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  24. ccelis

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    Yeah, I have yet to try Poly. Mainly in fear of potential elbow issues and comfort. But may be I will try it....
     
  25. jonestim

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    After hitting with the four versions, I think I like the newest the best. They are 5-8 grams lighter, and a chunk of that is in the head. 347 strung with OG and dampener. Swing weight probably between 325 and 330. I find I can get them around just a hair quicker so I am a bit more consistent.
     

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