Prince Phantom 100G

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tennisintheeighties

Semi-Pro
I had finally the chance to hit with the 100G.
(Demo, cames with an old big banger OG unplayable, so i put a syngut on mains and soft poly - Red devil - on crosses)
Current stick : blade v7 18x20
Not sure, but i think sometimes this racquet hurts my elbow, so i decided to try other sticks.
First thing :
If the blade got 62 RA stiffness, the phantom 100G got 52 not 59

I love everything on this racquet.
Maneuvrability , big spin , the amazing feel ( time machine > 1988 but with modern sensation, the control
327 Gr on my scale / 339 for the blade

I just lack of power unfortuntely. I can find good angles with it, but i definitely got more rpm on the ball with the blade.

I don’t know if i’ll take it, and add a total of 10gr - lead tape - 3 and 9, if it can changes radically the power ?

Thoughts ?


(I really really enjoyed this racquet, more than the phantom 100P!!)
 
I'd try 2grams at 12 first to get it up to 325sw first. Adding 5 grams at each side might affect twist weight too much it's already 14.5 or so. Can become sluggish and you might lose some of those characteristics you like. Trial an error. Blade is a beast with mid 330sw and less hl balance
 
1990's Graphite said:
I'd try 2grams at 12 first to get it up to 325sw first. Adding 5 grams at each side might affect twist weight too much it's already 14.5 or so. Can become sluggish and you might lose some of those characteristics you like. Trial an error. Blade is a beast with mid 330sw and less hl balance
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2Gr on this racquet is not enough for me. It's a dilemma because i really love this phantom 100 G. A few people already tried it, not easy to find in stores, but it's a really good racquet
 
philxor said:
Have you tried the Phantom 100P? I found it to be similar to Blade but again not as stiff.
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I restrung the phantom100p demo, i hit yesterday and i didn’t feel the ball personally.
No sensation, not a bad racquet at all but totally inferior to the Blade 98
I wanted to try the phantom 100G because i use sometimes a pog107 tour and i love the feel of this old racquet.
And it’s very similar (100g) to the prince original graphite.

Btw The phantom100p have excellent reviews
 
philxor said:
Have you tried the Phantom 100P? I found it to be similar to Blade but again not as stiff.
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The Phantom 100P is more stable, forgiving and easier to use than the Blade. It's a great all around racquet that has a nice stock weight and hits a very heavy ball. It's also super arm friendly. I can't say enough good things about the 100P as it's my main stick!
I started a thread a little over a year ago on the Phantom 100P. It's a superior racquet to the Blade IMO.
 
I demoed the 100G and really enjoyed it. Similar to my PCG 100s I've been using. It def requires a little weight. I've always added 2" on each side at 10 and 2 on the 100s and found it to help with stability and little more pop.
 
Nice thing about the G line is that they come with a lower swing weight so they take weight quite well compared to the 100P. Little more room for customization.
 
Got my second round demo with the 100G and had great 90 min hitting session with it. It was up against the Prestige MP both strung with multi. Mine came in over spec as I added 3 grams at 10 and 2 like I have always done to my prince graphite 100s and it came in at 12.2 oz. racquet is near perfect when the sweet spot is struck and has ample power with good mechanics. I think I shaped poly main with the gut or multi cross would add a little more cut on the ball to really make penetrating shots. I have used the graphite 100s for 6 years and find the 100G an upgrade in feel.
 
jbdbackfan said:
I have used the graphite 100s for 6 years and find the 100G an upgrade in feel.
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As in the classic graphite 100 of 2014? How do they compare? I had one back then but it felt cumbersome so was probably off spec. I do have a 1st gen phantom 100p which is probably closer to the 100g (crossbar is iconic!)
 
tata said:
As in the classic graphite 100 of 2014? How do they compare? I had one back then but it felt cumbersome so was probably off spec. I do have a 1st gen phantom 100p which is probably closer to the 100g (crossbar is iconic!)
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Yes the classic graphite of 100. I found the 100G sweet spot to be slight more generous. The feel is the difference as it’s less stiff. The graphite’s I’ve had all were pretty close to spec and with overgrip and weight all come in around 12.1-12.2oz. Therefore this one weighted up was about same so transition is seamless. That’s nice thing with this frame and the 319-320 sw it allows for customization but also plays whippy if left at spec.
 
Picked up some Prince 100G’s during the sale. I am a flexible frame fan, but have not tried the Phantom line since the original play test on the first Phantom 100. Unfortunately, we had to send the Phantom back to TW as it was a durability test so I found the closest thing I could at the time, the Prince Tour 98 ESP. I played the Tour 98 ESP for several years and loved the racquet, but after the pandemic shut down sabbatical I wanted to get something with a bit more control at net. Tried the PK Black Ace 315 but had issues sourcing grommets and never caught it on sale to buy multiple copies. After the Black Ace, I transitioned into the Head Micro Gel Radical OS. It reminded me a lot of the 2015 Wilson Blade 104 I used prior to the Tour 98 ESP, but with a bit more control and maneuverability. Love the Radical, great controllable power, decent touch, and good feel. Made the mistake of seeing the sale prices on the Phantom 100G’s and pulled the trigger.;)

Strung up the first one with my go to hybrid, Ashaway Kevlar 16g in the mains (55 lbs) / Ashaway Monogut ZX 16g (50 lbs) in the crosses. Added a leather grip, Blu tack in the tubes, and lead in the hoop to get to my specs (369 grams 10 pts HL).

First hit went amazing well. It did not take long to adjust to the 100G’s launch conditions, it felt as though it was launching a hair lower than my Radicals so a minimal adjustment was needed. The 100G is definitely a plush ride. Not quite a true old school feel, but as close as I have experienced in a modern racquet. There is feedback when you miss the sweet spot, but it’s more subtle and not harsh, not that you miss the sweet spot too often as it is fairly large. I loved the control aspect of the 100G the most. After a few balls, I could dial in my ground strokes and volleys quite well and was gaining confidence with each hit to aim at more precise targets. Top spin generation was as expected, no issues getting all the spin I can normally generate. Not as much as I could with the 16 x 16 Tour 98 ESP, but as much if not more than the other racquets I have played with. Slice/underspin shots were sublime. I could keep slices amazingly low to the net with great control. Touch shots took a few attempts to dial them in and adjust to. Once I had a few opportunities to hit them, drop shots and top spin lobs became deadly accurate. The 100G is most certainly a touch/control racquet.

While I did not get an opportunity to serve during my first hit, overheads were quite controllable. Not as much power as the Radical OS, but still able the generate good pace. Overall, it was a great first hit. I can not wait to get it back out on court for another go.
 
Got the 100G back out on court last night. It was supposed to be a 6 person drill, but we only ended up with two so no point play for the duration. I did, however, get in a ton of grand strokes and volleys.

The one hand backhand ground strokes with the 100G are almost automatic. I got into a groove and was just destroying the ball. I was putting the ground strokes at the other player (cooperative) who was cross court inside the service box and he’s was having trouble getting the volleys back over the net. Great pace and spin, about as good as I have ever hit. On the forehand ground stroke, we did the same drill and with similar results. Great pace, spin, and control through out the drill. The feel and comfort of this racquet can. It be over stated. I have played flexible racquets in the past, but none have been this comfortable and stable through out the range of shots.

When my opponent was hitting ground strokes, I had the opportunity to hit volleys. The 100G is very controllable at net. I was concerned about the volleys with the 16 x 18 string bed, but the 100G is quite solid and controllable on the volleys. I was able to hit volleys deep without feeling the need to pull back the the power to keep the ball in. I was stronger on my forehand side initially, but soon adjusted to the 100G on the backhand volleys as I hit more balls. I also stepped back in the service box to work on half volleys and balls at my feet and struggled a bit finding the touch I normally have with those shots. With enough repetition, I was able to work on dialing In my touch and starting finding my spots by the end of the drill.

Another good night with the Phantom 100G. I am really loving the feel and comfort of this set up and look forward to getting back out on court again soon.
 
Another good session with the 100G. I was able to get some serving in last night and it was as expected. Nice, controllable flat serves and decent spin production on kick serves and slice serves. I was also able to return a few serves, but against some folks with lower pace so not a whole lot of info on the stability side. Like what I experienced control wise and having dealt with pace on ground strokes I am expected good results here as well.

I am really enjoying current string setup. Initially, I was worried it may be a tad bit powerful, but has been perfect so far. I may experiment a bit with the cross tension, but I will definitely keep one at 55 x 50 in the bag.
 
I’ve been playing the 100G for about a month now and really enjoying them overall. Lots of control for a 16x18 stringbed and obviously great spin with that pattern. The thin beam makes it super whippy too.

I’ve been playing them with an OG and 1g added to 10/2 which helped move up the sweet spot and add a touch extra pop. I just added another 2g at 12 but have yet to play it yet. Mine were a matched pair at 286 SW unstrung and I’m playing T1 BK 1.18 at 50lbs. With 3g of total lead added and OG, I’m at 331g and 7 pts HL.

Not sure if it’s placebo effect or not, but the crossbar really seems to help this frame play much more stable and solid than it’s low RA and weight would suggest.
 
I posted in another thread about the fact that I am able pick a couple of 100G's up and I was wondering how they compare to the Phantom 100P that I currently use.

Admittedly I am really vibing the way I am hitting with the 100P so whilst I don't want to change it's more about adding to my collection whilst also having another frame I could transistion to when I get bored.

I've always loved the POG silhouette and I own several iterations of the POG 93 and 107 but never 100 so hence the lure...
 
A-Style said:
I posted in another thread about the fact that I am able pick a couple of 100G's up and I was wondering how they compare to the Phantom 100P that I currently use.

Admittedly I am really vibing the way I am hitting with the 100P so whilst I don't want to change it's more about adding to my collection whilst also having another frame I could transistion to when I get bored.

I've always loved the POG silhouette and I own several iterations of the POG 93 and 107 but never 100 so hence the lure...
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Did you find the that 100P was much harder to use than the 100G? I heard the P versions were for more advanced players and the 100G was more user friendly.
 
good_jello said:
Did you find the that 100P was much harder to use than the 100G? I heard the P versions were for more advanced players and the 100G was more user friendly.
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They are almost identical just the 100P has a bit more swing weight. I’d just get the 100G and add a bit more weight but if it’s too much weight at least you can work backwards. This racquet is also pretty string sensitive. You def don’t want full bed of poly. A thinner poly main (find Volkl cyclone 18 or 17) with a thicker multi cross (Prince premier control 15L) works great at 45/48lbs respectively. Been a while since I did full bed of multi or syn gut with these.
 
jbdbackfan said:
They are almost identical just the 100P has a bit more swing weight. I’d just get the 100G and add a bit more weight but if it’s too much weight at least you can work backwards. This racquet is also pretty string sensitive. You def don’t want full bed of poly. A thinner poly main (find Volkl cyclone 18 or 17) with a thicker multi cross (Prince premier control 15L) works great at 45/48lbs respectively. Been a while since I did full bed of multi or syn gut with these.
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I find that the 100G is tough to maneuver already so the 100P might be a bit too much. The 100P also doesn't have the crossbar stabilizer but I'm not sure that does much? My demo currently has a full bed of multi and I'm find it gets launchey on me sometimes (less so than the pure strike). Why is a full bed of poly bad on this? Once I buy the racquet, I was planning to put in hyper-g at 45 pounds.
 
good_jello said:
I find that the 100G is tough to maneuver already so the 100P might be a bit too much. The 100P also doesn't have the crossbar stabilizer but I'm not sure that does much? My demo currently has a full bed of multi and I'm find it gets launchey on me sometimes (less so than the pure strike). Why is a full bed of poly bad on this? Once I buy the racquet, I was planning to put in hyper-g at 45 pounds.
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The power is low and full poly will keep it low. I play for comfort too and just enjoy the softer feel with the multi cross. The stabilizer bar is supposedly to help stiffen up throat some and thus provide a bit more stability but I’ve also read Prince admits that the bar is cosmic only.
 
Much prefer the Prince Phantom 100p 16x18. Good at everything, great on arm & available with discount.
 
good_jello said:
Did you find the that 100P was much harder to use than the 100G? I heard the P versions were for more advanced players and the 100G was more user friendly.
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Short answer is yes. I switched from the 100P and felt that the 'G' version really did things a little easier. They are very similar though. I loved my 100G but. I really played the best tennis I had done in the last decade I reckon. I really refound my game using those sticks. I've put them on ice for the moment and have switched to a Blade V9 16x19 which is more "modern". Definitely "harsher" on the arm when compared to both Prince racquets but still very playable. Outside of PS Classic 6.1 I used probably some 20+ years ago this is the only Wilson frame I have used. That and the fact that Prince are so hard to source here in Australia.
 
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