Prince Phantom 93P

[El_Yotamo]

Chris gave a small sneak peak of this beauty on today's TW vlog

Ever since first hearing about this stick being in the making I've been very excited. Possible March release date (Indian Wells Masters time) as said on the vlog. I'm really hoping it is as close to a blackput as possible like shown in the vlog. Who else is excited about this racquet and a possible playtest? I absolutely cannot wait for March

 

[darklore009]

possibly the diablo 93 mid racket, but renamed as phantom with textreme

 

[hotasice]

interesting....what is the flex and balance of the 93P?

 

[CosmosMpower]

Dang 93 18x20 with textreme I’m in

 

[jonestim]

possibly the diablo 93 mid racket, but renamed as phantom with textreme

Diablo 93 was 16x20 and this is 18x20. It also looks to be boxier than the Diablo and will probably have the 16mm throat.

Diablo 93 was my favorite feeling racquet of all time - I just couldn't win with it very often.

 

[TW Staff]

interesting....what is the flex and balance of the 93P?

The RA is around 62 strung.
Chris, TW

 

[El_Yotamo]

possibly the diablo 93 mid racket, but renamed as phantom with textreme

Diablo Mid had a 16x20 if I remember correctly.

 

[El_Yotamo]

Diablo 93 was 16x20 and this is 18x20. It also looks to be boxier than the Diablo and will probably have the 16mm throat.

Diablo 93 was my favorite feeling racquet of all time - I just couldn't win with it very often.

Yes very true about the beam. @TW Staff would you happen to know the beam thickness/thicknesses of this racquet? I've certainly been wondering about the beam thickness and if it's a straight beam or not.

 

[SpinToWin]

Yes very true about the beam. @TW Staff would you happen to know the beam thickness/thicknesses of this racquet? I've certainly been wondering about the beam thickness and if it's a straight beam or not.

I don’t even care, GOAT Chris said it’s a better Prestige Classic;buckle your seatbelts and secure your wallets folks, splurging times are ahead.

 

[OnyxZ28]

 

[SpinToWin]

This is the stuff dreams are made of

 

[Kozzy]

A legend cometh

- is that video/text for real? If so, where can I find it? I'm loving this. Long live TW and long live Prince!

 

[Automatix]

possibly the diablo 93 mid racket, but renamed as phantom with textreme

Different mold - beam thickness for instance.

Diablo 93 was 16x20 and this is 18x20.

String pattern is not assigned to a mold. You could have any string pattern on a Diablo 93 mold, depends on you whether for you a different string pattern would make it an entirely different frame.

 

[roundiesee]

Wow. I’m sold too. Will ask the local supplier if they are brining in! Thanks for the info OP!

 

[SpinToWin]

- is that video/text for real? If so, where can I find it? I'm loving this. Long live TW and long live Prince!

Under the new TW Vlog. He answered a question

 

[Imago]

Under the new TW Vlog. He answered a question

Good catch!

If Aldi could make it, why not Prince? Now the question is will Prince put Twaron in the layup. Aldi did.

 

[Automatix]

Mold TC324A, aye?

 

[el__zopilote]

Kudos to Prince for doing this. From the new tweener Beast line to these Phantoms they are offering such a great range of racquets for different playing styles.

 

[el__zopilote]

Sweet!

No company has been more dismissive, more disrespectful, or more deceitful to the true fans of the game for the last decade than Head.

Bravo, Prince!

Can you fill me in? Is Prince issuing a racket with specs that HEAD abandoned or something?

 

[TennisHound]

Yeah Prince is trying, but a 12+oz (I’m assuming unstrung) 93 is at the outer edge of the spectrum.

What about an 11.7oz 96-98”with a fairly tight 16x19 pattern?

Also, a 98” Beast (or 100p) in 18x20 and/or 16x19 around 11.4oz strung 4-6 Pts HL RA 64-65 would also fill a customer void.

 

[langdon0555]

Yeah Prince is trying, but a 12+oz (I’m assuming unstrung) 93 is at the outer edge of the spectrum.

What about an 11.7oz 96-98”with a fairly tight 16x19 pattern?

Also, a 98” Beast (or 100p) in 18x20 and/or 16x19 around 11.4oz strung 4-6 Pts HL RA 64-65 would also fill a customer void.

Prince Textreme Beast 98
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm.
Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm
Strung Weight: 11.40 oz / 323 g
Balance: 7pts HL
Swing Weight: 325
Beam Width: 23.0mm
Tip/Shaft: 25.0mm / 21.0mm
Composition: Textreme/Twaron/Graphite
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stiffness: 64
String Pattern: 16 Mains/20 Crosses
Main Skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H
String Tension: 48-58

 

[Kozzy]

Yeah Prince is trying, but a 12+oz (I’m assuming unstrung) 93 is at the outer edge of the spectrum.

He says 12+ strung on the video. Also, I've seen reference to other specs at 330g (11.6ish ounces) unstrung, which would make sense.

 

[TennisHound]

Prince Textreme Beast 98
Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm.
Length: 27.00 inches / 68.58 cm
Strung Weight: 11.40 oz / 323 g
Balance: 7pts HL
Swing Weight: 325
Beam Width: 23.0mm
Tip/Shaft: 25.0mm / 21.0mm
Composition: Textreme/Twaron/Graphite
Power Level: Low-Medium
Stiffness: 64
String Pattern: 16 Mains/20 Crosses
Main Skip: 7T,9T,7H,9H
String Tension: 48-58

Wow, okay. I need to go over to TW and look

 

[langdon0555]

Wow, okay. I need to go over to TW and look

They aren't on TW yet, other than the beast 100.

There are 4 Beast models on Racquet Finder though...

http://www.racquetfinder.com/?name=...s=&max_price=&currentcheckbox=ASICS&current=Y

 

[morten]

Very exited. Hope the headshape is not ås round ås the previous 93s but more long and Thin like the tour95 (not textreme but black and yellow one) i want to know beam thickness too...

 

[morten]

Very exited. Hope the headshape is not as round as the previous 93s but more long and Thin like the tour95 (not textreme but black and yellow one) i want to know beam thickness too...

 

[morten]

Delete

 

[Tommy Haas]

Also, a 98” Beast (or 100p) in 18x20 and/or 16x19 around 11.4oz strung 4-6 Pts HL RA 64-65 would also fill a customer void.

The Textreme Tour 100P already fits your bill and available now.

The new Beasts are successors to the Warriors, but with Twaron.

 

[Tour_G]

So, maybe, MAYBE, if they could do this with the Prestige Classic, they could do the same with the Pro Tour/PT57A *cof* @TW Staff.

 

[Tour_G]

*double post

 

[El_Yotamo]

So, maybe, MAYBE, if they could do this with the Prestige Classic, they could do the same with the Pro Tour/PT57A *cof* @TW Staff.

I'd be delighted. One of my favorite frames that I've hit with, the PT280 (capped).

 

[El_Yotamo]

You win this round double post!

 

[AMGF]

Now if they could make a 27,5" version...

 

[TennisHound]

The Textreme Tour 100P already fits your bill and available now.

The new Beasts are successors to the Warriors, but with Twaron.

The 100P is 100” and is heavier than this. I should have said 96-98. FYI- I know it’s slight, but there’s a difference between 96-98 and 99-100”.

 

[scotus]

A dense pattern on a midsize is not my cup of tea, but I know a lot of Head fans have been waiting for something like this.

 

[ProRadTour]

It's awesome what Prince is doing with their frames. Adding Twaron, offering nice flexible players frames to the market. Also big thumbs up to TW for assisting in the development of this offering.

Can't wait to try this mid out.

@Head, you guys suck

 

[PBODY99]

@morten ; @TennisHound

Use Auto translate, and watch the Japanese version, which may not be the same in the USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLjx1AFGck&t

 

[PBODY99]

@AMGF
I wanted the 27.5" Textreme Premier 110, but I refuse to pay ~$200.00 USD but cannot get a replacement bumper set.
The extra length just works for me .

 

[Tommy Haas]

The original PC600 93" 18x20 had a sub 60RA. Why did Prince make the new Phantom 93P with a low 60s RA? For more power? The PC600 was ultra low powered and only someone like Safin and Philippoussis could wield it effectively.

 

[sargeinaz]

The original PC600 93" 18x20 had a sub 60RA. Why did Prince make the new Phantom 93P with a low 60s RA? For more power? The PC600 was ultra low powered and only someone like Safin and Philippoussis could wield it effectively.

I doubt the goal was to make the exact same racket as the PC600. If someone wants that, they should just buy a PC600.

 

[John Z.]

More specifically: classic head mid fans. I also don't care about 18x20 in a mid, but i'm glad to see efforts to produce arm friendly mids with player specs.

A dense pattern on a midsize is not my cup of tea, but I know a lot of Head fans have been waiting for something like this.

 

[Imago]

The original PC600 is 89.5 inch, This Phantom is hopefully 93.

 

[El_Yotamo]

The original PC600 93" 18x20 had a sub 60RA. Why did Prince make the new Phantom 93P with a low 60s RA? For more power? The PC600 was ultra low powered and only someone like Safin and Philippoussis could wield it effectively.

To be fair it'll have a thinner beam (I'm guessing) and remember that if it's a 93 it won't be the same as the 600 anyhow (unless they change something with the string pattern. Plus, I'm trusting Chris with saying it's meant to be similar, let's just wait and see how it plays

 

[Tommy Haas]

To be fair it'll have a thinner beam (I'm guessing) and remember that if it's a 93 it won't be the same as the 600 anyhow (unless they change something with the string pattern. Plus, I'm trusting Chris with saying it's meant to be similar, let's just wait and see how it plays

That might make sense because if I were to swing a 93" mid frame, I'd want the flex to be at the hoop and not at the throat.

For midplus frames, I prefer more flex at the throat, but if Prince makes both the hoop and throat stiff, then I'm at a loss why.

 

[El_Yotamo]

That might make sense because if I were to swing a 93" mid frame, I'd want the flex to be at the hoop and not at the throat.

For midplus frames, I prefer more flex at the throat, but if Prince makes both the hoop and throat stiff, then I'm at a loss why.

Considering TW was in on the development of this frame, I highly doubt it.

 

[sma1001]

Ok. So some of us were already thinking the TW team have the best jobs going. Now they are getting to participate in the development of frames so they meet their wishes. Wow.

The good thing is that they aren't located in a nice sunny area with perfect tennis waether and great beaches. Hold on! They get that too!

 

[fundrazer]

Ok. So some of us were already thinking the TW team have the best jobs going. Now they are getting to participate in the development of frames so they meet their wishes. Wow.

The good thing is that they aren't located in a nice sunny area with perfect tennis waether and great beaches. Hold on! They get that too!

They had a job posting a few months a few months back for web content editor + playtester. Dream opportunity, but I wasn't in position to apply for it Need to finish my uni degree.

And I kinda had to lol at Chris' comment on the vlog. Hopefully this is a racquet that the fans of the old Prestiges will enjoy.

 

[morten]

I still hope the headshape is not as round as the previous 93s from Prince

 

[Kozzy]

I still hope the headshape is not as round as the previous 93s from Prince

Yeah - looks pretty round to me though - Prince likes them round, I guess. I have a graphite pro 93 and it's extremely round - so was the response 97. I liked it in some ways, but prefer an oval more, I think.

 

[LuchoVena]

Mold TC324A, aye?

I read that too.....do you know what it means? Im not accustomed to Prince codes nomenclatures

I also managed to read what I think is layup code: C92A or C72A?

 

[Automatix]

I read that too.....do you know what it means? Im not accustomed to Prince codes nomenclatures

Just a code for the mold, "A" indicating retail. They might as well write A, B, C.