Prince Phantom 97P Review / Discussion

time_fly

Hall of Fame
He also complained about a small sweetspot similar to the TW review...
I think Prince responded to the request for an "easier-to-use 93P" by dropping the weight and swingweight as well as making the head bigger. The swingweight in particular is lower than most of the 100" Phantom variants, even the lighter ones. I think this is what is making it feel a bit less stable with a smaller sweet spot. Probably a bit of lead on the hoop is all that is needed for those who don't like the stock form. Or you could just do what I do and try to hit in the center. :p
 

SAG72

New User
I think Prince responded to the request for an "easier-to-use 93P" by dropping the weight and swingweight as well as making the head bigger. The swingweight in particular is lower than most of the 100" Phantom variants, even the lighter ones. I think this is what is making it feel a bit less stable with a smaller sweet spot. Probably a bit of lead on the hoop is all that is needed for those who don't like the stock form. Or you could just do what I do and try to hit in the center. :p
Is it easy to hit flat with the 97p? How is the trajectory? Looking to buy a new stick, but if it has a high, loopy trajectory that is a no go for me.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Is it easy to hit flat with the 97p? How is the trajectory? Looking to buy a new stick, but if it has a high, loopy trajectory that is a no go for me.
This racquet is not designed for heavy topspin. It also doesn't favor low, flat hitting as much as the Blade or Phantom 93P 18x20 but it's definitely not loopy. I think it's a happy medium.
 

langdon0555

Semi-Pro
Anybody on here weight a 97p up around 12.5 ounces, 330-340 swing weight, 7-10 points headlight?

I usually modify my racquets to those Specs with lead at 3&9/10&2 with a leather grip.

Curious how a 97p would play modified compared to stock.
 

stephenclown

Professional
Loving my modded 97P, beautiful feel and control all over the court. Slice forehand winners are brutally effective. @langdon0555 weight helps to bring out the sweet spot and response with some additional feel. I would think that your goal weight would really help the frame and improve the response, especially at the net and on serve.

I would guess mine is now around 350 grams mid 340s swing weight with the new string and has great plow. Need to get it measured somewhere.

The big change from last time is my strings. Have put in BBO at 48/46 and just loving it. More notched after an hour than I would have thought, hope it doesn't head downhill quickly. I'm lucky my hitting partner doesn't crush the ball or it might have been an issue since I'm low on string stock.

Power level is better than last time I used it and it has this incredible feel that I have come to expect of luxilon strings. It might be among the best of any string I have used. The control and spin is just a perfect mix. Overall I feel like I have complete control over the ball in every situation. Doesn't have any weaknesses since my frame has some nice weight to it now to absorb the poly shock. It doesn't rip the felt off the ball like a brand new set of alu but it also is more consistent as Alu does lose some of that bite.

Alu has a magical mix of spin and control but also with power so it is slightly different to BBO. In the 97P I am unsure what the best mix is. BBO has slightly more control and can hit a loopy ball and flat without an issue.

I might hit up the OG Jolly2 rig or whatever it's nicknamed as. Need to grab some Alu Power and give it a whirl, imagine that it will be very good. The Alu does feel a little better and softer so taking some of that to soften up the bed should be nice.
 

langdon0555

Semi-Pro
Thanks for the feedback.

Loving my modded 97P, beautiful feel and control all over the court. Slice forehand winners are brutally effective. @langdon0555 weight helps to bring out the sweet spot and response with some additional feel. I would think that your goal weight would really help the frame and improve the response, especially at the net and on serve.

I would guess mine is now around 350 grams mid 340s swing weight with the new string and has great plow. Need to get it measured somewhere.

The big change from last time is my strings. Have put in BBO at 48/46 and just loving it. More notched after an hour than I would have thought, hope it doesn't head downhill quickly. I'm lucky my hitting partner doesn't crush the ball or it might have been an issue since I'm low on string stock.

Power level is better than last time I used it and it has this incredible feel that I have come to expect of luxilon strings. It might be among the best of any string I have used. The control and spin is just a perfect mix. Overall I feel like I have complete control over the ball in every situation. Doesn't have any weaknesses since my frame has some nice weight to it now to absorb the poly shock. It doesn't rip the felt off the ball like a brand new set of alu but it also is more consistent as Alu does lose some of that bite.

Alu has a magical mix of spin and control but also with power so it is slightly different to BBO. In the 97P I am unsure what the best mix is. BBO has slightly more control and can hit a loopy ball and flat without an issue.

I might hit up the OG Jolly2 rig or whatever it's nicknamed as. Need to grab some Alu Power and give it a whirl, imagine that it will be very good. The Alu does feel a little better and softer so taking some of that to soften up the bed should be nice.
 

grucatennis

New User
How did everyone weight up their 97P? I had a 5g at 3&9 with a calfskin leather. Was thinking of 2-3g at 12 instead. Thoughts...?
 

diddyac

Rookie
How did everyone weight up their 97P? I had a 5g at 3&9 with a calfskin leather. Was thinking of 2-3g at 12 instead. Thoughts...?
Before I played it with stock, I used 4g at 3&9 and 1g at 12 , everything felt quite nice, but I was personally a bit too slow against higher level players, probably not enough weight in the handle anymore, so I actually went back to stock and I thought it actually played alot better - my forehand has a large loop so adding weight for me in the hoop and losing headlight balance was not ideal for my playstyle

I expected it to be unstable because of what I've been reading in this thread , but I think it's totally fine
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I find it super stable like Rf97 stable with old school head like flex. Amazing really I was telling somebody the other day it’s like they took 3 of my favorite racquets and created a custom racquet for me. k90 with its thin beam and head light balance, pro tour 630 flex and shape and rf97 with super solid feel on groundies and ease of spin.
 

stephenclown

Professional
I have some personal reasons that require me to add some weight to slow down my swingspeed. I have about 7 grams under the bumper. Unsure what the swingweight would be for that. 1 strip extends 90% of the bumper, the second strip is about 7" centered at 12. I'd guess between 340 and 350.

Super smooth and sweet.

What strings are you using in it @dgoran? I ran out of strings, waiting for PTP 1.25 to arrive and might grab a reel of Alu Power with some gut. Loved PTP 1.25 in the 93P
 
I find it super stable like Rf97 stable with old school head like flex. Amazing really I was telling somebody the other day it’s like they took 3 of my favorite racquets and created a custom racquet for me. k90 with its thin beam and head light balance, pro tour 630 flex and shape and rf97 with super solid feel on groundies and ease of spin.
Wow [emoji2956] Sounds very promising!!!


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djnemo

Rookie
Demoing the 97P strung with Wilson Sensation. My usual racquet is the Vcore 97 330 and I play 4.5 singles and doubles. I am loving the 97P on serves and volleys, but can't seem to get the power and depth on groundstrokes that I am used to with my VCore. I know the flexiness of the racquet has something to do with it. Any recommendations on how to get a heavier ball on groundies? Weight and/or string choices?
 
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flanker2000fr

Professional
Demoing the 97P strung with Wilson Sensation. My usual racquet is the Vcore 97 330 and I play 4.5 singles and doubles. I am loving the 97P on serves and volleys, but can't seem to get the power and depth on groundstrokes that I am used to with my VCore. I know the flexiness of the racquet has something to do with it. Any recommendations on how to get a heavier ball on groundies? Weight and/or string choices?
I'd start by dropping a couple of lbs in your regular strings set-up. Also, the SW is quite a bit lower on the 97P vs the Vcore 330, so if it were me I'd add a couple of g of lead at 12, counterbalanced by the same amount under the butt cap.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
While I'm still messing around with racquets before the USTA match season starts, I think I will give the 97P one last go. I got frustrated with it last spring and put it away; I just wasn't getting the grip on the ball that I wanted. I have it strung with a gut-poly hybrid and cutting out natural gut is going to pain me greatly, but I think I need to give poly in the mid-40s a try.
 
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