Prince Phantom Pro 100p vs Prince Phantom 100p

tennis347

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For all the users who have played with original PP 100P and the new version, what are the differences in control, power, spin, feel and comfort? Thanks for your feedback.
 

Humble_Bear

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I demoed the Pro 100 (not 100p) & the new 100P last week. I was not impressed with the old version but was extremely impressed with the new 100P. I also demoed the Gravity Pro and the Yonex 97HD and found the 100P and the Yonex 97HD equally impressive head to head.
 

tennis347

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I demoed the Pro 100 (not 100p) & the new 100P last week. I was not impressed with the old version but was extremely impressed with the new 100P. I also demoed the Gravity Pro and the Yonex 97HD and found the 100P and the Yonex 97HD equally impressive head to head.
Thanks for your feedback! How was the SW and maneuverability of the new 100P? Was it more comfortable than the the Pro 100? Does the new 100P have more power than the Gravity Pro and the Yonex 97 HD?
 

Humble_Bear

New User
Based on the reviews, I thought I was going to suffer on the maneuverability on the 100P, but it was not a problem at all. Maybe it was because the racket only weighed 11.28 oz(.22 lighter than the spec), but it still had plenty of power; the most powerful of the 4 rackets I demoed. However, it was the only racket with 17g string; all rackets strung with multifilament. I would just add 1/2 oz of silicone in the butt and that would make it a great racket. The comfort level was on par with the Pro 100 maybe because of the thinner string again.
 

Humble_Bear

New User
I think the new version PP100P is superior than its predecessor in power, comfort and the rest probably negligible. Maybe the older version takes weight better because I saw some posts(inc yours) saying the new 100X300 don't take weight too well and the new 100P has the same new material, Twaron, added to the hoop and shaft. But I don't think it needs weight except if anything only in the butt.
 

tennis347

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I think the new version PP100P is superior than its predecessor in power, comfort and the rest probably negligible. Maybe the older version takes weight better because I saw some posts(inc yours) saying the new 100X300 don't take weight too well and the new 100P has the same new material, Twaron, added to the hoop and shaft. But I don't think it needs weight except if anything only in the butt.
I kind of figured that the new 100P would be a superior to the original due to the added twaron added to the hoop and shaft but was curious on other users thoughts. For some the 100x 305 didn't take adding weight well which is why I gave up on it. The SW was a little too low for me in stock form. I am a big fan of box beams as you get alot more feel and precision.

The original 100P suffered from torsional stability issues in the upper portion of the hoop. Shots hit in the upper hoop were jarring to the arm. With the twaron added to hoop and shaft, there should be much better stability and comfort on off center hits. I might consider picking up a new 100P since there will not be a need for much if any customization.
 

Humble_Bear

New User
Yes, I forgot to mention that the stability was excellent due to the added Twaron and the box beam provides unmatched feel and consistency. Why don't you demo it along with other rackets like the 97HD which I also love; if you like it then you will get the $25 credit anyway; if you don't you only spent $25 in a prudent way. Originally, I was going to buy the Pro 100 but tuned out it was the racket that I least like among the 4.
 

tennis347

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Yes, I forgot to mention that the stability was excellent due to the added Twaron and the box beam provides unmatched feel and consistency. Why don't you demo it along with other rackets like the 97HD which I also love; if you like it then you will get the $25 credit anyway; if you don't you only spent $25 in a prudent way. Originally, I was going to buy the Pro 100 but tuned out it was the racket that I least like among the 4.
Thanks for the additional feedback. I don't usually lean towards racquets with closed patterns these days. I am looking for easy spin which is enhanced with my western grips on both sides. I have been using the Blade v7 98 16 x 19 for a while along side with the Angell K7 Red. The Blade has become a bit too demanding during match play and I have been leaning towards the K7 Red. I do think a 100 sq inch frame with be more forgiving and add a little more pop as well as spin. There are not really any other racquets that I am interested in right now.
 

Shangri La

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In my experience the old version has more raw/direct feel, the new purple version feels more crisp/modern. The new verion swings noticeably heavier. I'm not sure if it's due to sample variation or design. It therefore has more stability and power. Other things are similar between the two. If I were to choose one, I'd go with the old version due to the feel and maneuverability. I'm waiting to demo the upcoming phantom 100 and will get a pair.
 

tennis347

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In my experience the old version has more raw/direct feel, the new purple version feels more crisp/modern. The new verion swings noticeably heavier. I'm not sure if it's due to sample variation or design. It therefore has more stability and power. Other things are similar between the two. If I were to choose one, I'd go with the old version due to the feel and maneuverability. I'm waiting to demo the upcoming phantom 100 and will get a pair.
Thanks for your feedback. I was concerned about the SW being too high on the new version. I don't really care for the crisper modern feel. I like more of a plush feel.
 

MishitWinner

New User
I surprisingly loved the new 100p, and bought two. Demoed pretty much all the new Phantoms. The sweetspot feel of 97p is truly awesome. Felt so good. But my shots landed short, and off-center it was not stable enough for me. Almost bought it, but did a second demo with 100p.

100p offers way more power, is super solid, and was better for flat serves. My weapons have always been slice, flat shots and volleys. This racquet is the first one that gave me heavy enough topspin that it is a weapon. Compared to previous racquets (93p, prestige pro), the people I play with have been noticeably surprised by how high the ball jumps up into them.

At first, it felt sluggish at net. But once I got used to balance, it was no trouble at all. Combination of light weight/good swingweight really works with this racquet. First 100 headsize I ever gelled with.


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tennis347

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I surprisingly loved the new 100p, and bought two. Demoed pretty much all the new Phantoms. The sweetspot feel of 97p is truly awesome. Felt so good. But my shots landed short, and off-center it was not stable enough for me. Almost bought it, but did a second demo with 100p.

100p offers way more power, is super solid, and was better for flat serves. My weapons have always been slice, flat shots and volleys. This racquet is the first one that gave me heavy enough topspin that it is a weapon. Compared to previous racquets (93p, prestige pro), the people I play with have been noticeably surprised by how high the ball jumps up into them.

At first, it felt sluggish at net. But once I got used to balance, it was no trouble at all. Combination of light weight/good swingweight really works with this racquet. First 100 headsize I ever gelled with.


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How does the new 100P feel on off center hits? Are you using a poly or a synthetic string and what tension are you using?

Someone else described the feeling of the new 100P as crisp compared to the original 100P. Do you agree?
 

tennis347

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After further analyzing, I finally decided to buy the new 100P. I am using the Blade v7 98 16 x 19 but looking for a more forgiving frame with a drop more power and also want to maintain control. I don't think any customization will be needed but I will just use my Wilson Contour grip for added comfort. I will post my review after I play with the 100P by the weekend.
 
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MishitWinner

New User
How does the new 100P feel on off center hits? Are you using a poly or a synthetic string and what tension are you using?

Someone else described the feeling of the new 100P as crisp compared to the original 100P. Do you agree?
Missed your reply. I don't find it uncomfortable at all. I'm using it with HyperG at 52lbs. Been playing an Angell TC100 I bought used more often though. I find the 100P pretty forgiving, but swingweight is a solid 330ish stock. So it's not as quick as the 97P or the 100X racquets.
 

Humble_Bear

New User
Missed your reply. I don't find it uncomfortable at all. I'm using it with HyperG at 52lbs. Been playing an Angell TC100 I bought used more often though. I find the 100P pretty forgiving, but swingweight is a solid 330ish stock. So it's not as quick as the 97P or the 100X racquets.
Did you add some weight to the bottom of 100P?
 

tennis347

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Missed your reply. I don't find it uncomfortable at all. I'm using it with HyperG at 52lbs. Been playing an Angell TC100 I bought used more often though. I find the 100P pretty forgiving, but swingweight is a solid 330ish stock. So it's not as quick as the 97P or the 100X racquets.
No worries ! I have purchased a few Prince frames previously and a couple came in under stock weight. I will have to see once I receive the 100P if the swingweight will be too much for me. I am hoping that it will come in a bit below 330. Thanks for your feedback.
 

tennis347

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I received my 100P today and with my Wilson Contour grip and a tourna dampener it came in at 325 grams. This frame has some nice heft and doesn't need any lead tape. I don't use poly any longer due to some minor elbow and shoulder issues. My usual goat string is Gosen Micro and strung it at 53lbs. I would estimate a SW of 325-328 range and definitely under 330 which is manageable IMO. My initial impressions are positive. Just bouncing a ball on the hoop I can tell that the 100P has a large sweetspot along with a nice flex. It's just a hair firmer than the 100x 305 and feels alot more substantial in a good way. I will post my review over the weekend.
 

tennis347

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I played with the 2020 100P on Sunday and overall my thoughts are quite positive. I played with the racquet stock and it came in at 325 grams with a dampener with Gosen Micro16 at 53lbs. The 100P has a really nice feel with a good balance of power and control. A medium swing gives you good depth. The spin potential and ball pocketing is really a stand out feature for me. The 100 sq in head is very forgiving and easy to use compared to the Blade v7 98 16 x 19 that I have been using for a while. Serves were easy to execute with good pop spin and control.
I did notice a hint of instability on some off center hits while playing into the wind. The comfort is quite good but the upper portion of the hoop has a crisp feel. The twaron does a good job of reducing the vibration and improving the stability from the original 100P.
I will probably need to find another string as the Gosen Micro 16 will not get much longevity in the 16 x 18 pattern. Since I have some arm issues, I will look for a 15L synthetic string for the mains to get a little more string life.
Definitely a nice offering from Prince. I am going to experiment adding a little weight at 3 and 9 as well counter balance in the handle to improve the stability.
 
323 grams. I just added 2 grams total at 3 and 9 as well as 1.5 grams on the butt of the handle. This will fix the instability issue.
That 3.5 total grams of lead should bring the racket up to spec. I'm guessing more control and power than the 100x, and likely better stability & plow too. How was the touch/feel on the 100p? Don't know if I said this on YT but one thing I absolutely love about the 100x was the amazing feel; way more touch/feel than I've had with any other racquet I've played.

On a side note, I'm noticing that the Phantoms seem to be quite string sensitive. Especially the 2018 Phantom Pro 100P and the new 100x; older Phantom Pro 100P seems to require sub-50lb tension to feel nice. The 100x seems to take better to medium/stiff poly strings because of the spin that racquet generates and the slightly livelier response than other Phantoms.
 

tennis347

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That 3.5 total grams of lead should bring the racket up to spec. I'm guessing more control and power than the 100x, and likely better stability & plow too. How was the touch/feel on the 100p? Don't know if I said this on YT but one thing I absolutely love about the 100x was the amazing feel; way more touch/feel than I've had with any other racquet I've played.

On a side note, I'm noticing that the Phantoms seem to be quite string sensitive. Especially the 2018 Phantom Pro 100P and the new 100x; older Phantom Pro 100P seems to require sub-50lb tension to feel nice. The 100x seems to take better to medium/stiff poly strings because of the spin that racquet generates and the slightly livelier response than other Phantoms.
Correct, more power and better control with the new 100P over the 100x as well as better stability. The touch and feel are quite good. The 100P hits a heavy ball even in stock form but IMO just needed a little more weight to improve the stability.

Yes, I would agree that the Phantom's are a bit string sensitive due to their flexibility. I don't play with poly so a synthetic string with a tension in the lower 50's is ideal. One thing I did notice is with the open pattern the Phantoms eat string. I am looking to go with a 15 gauge synthetic string on the mains and 17 on the crosses. I was thinking of trying Prince Premier Control 15L because it is fairly soft and will not beat up my arm.
 
Correct, more power and better control with the new 100P over the 100x as well as better stability. The touch and feel are quite good. The 100P hits a heavy ball even in stock form but IMO just needed a little more weight to improve the stability.

Yes, I would agree that the Phantom's are a bit string sensitive due to their flexibility. I don't play with poly so a synthetic string with a tension in the lower 50's is ideal. One thing I did notice is with the open pattern the Phantoms eat string. I am looking to go with a 15 gauge synthetic string on the mains and 17 on the crosses. I was thinking of trying Prince Premier Control 15L because it is fairly soft and will not beat up my arm.
Good to know on the racquet; that's reassuring. Are you feeling like this does most everything better than your Blade?

I will say that a multi string to try would be Tecnifibre NRG2; people say the comfort and durability are top notch with that one. Their 16 gauge is 1.32 mm, so very close to a 15 (1.35mm). I wouldn't know the playability of the string first hand since I've been a Hyper-G/Tour Bite user over the past 2 years.
 

tennis347

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Good to know on the racquet; that's reassuring. Are you feeling like this does most everything better than your Blade?

I will say that a multi string to try would be Tecnifibre NRG2; people say the comfort and durability are top notch with that one. Their 16 gauge is 1.32 mm, so very close to a 15 (1.35mm). I wouldn't know the playability of the string first hand since I've been a Hyper-G/Tour Bite user over the past 2 years.
Yes, for my game the 100P hits the mark because of my western grips. I get easy spin because of swing path and the open pattern. The Blade may a bit better for flat hitting but that's about it. Yes, NRG is a great string but very expensive. I will break it too quick and need something alot less expensive.
 

tennis347

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Correct, more power and better control with the new 100P over the 100x as well as better stability. The touch and feel are quite good. The 100P hits a heavy ball even in stock form but IMO just needed a little more weight to improve the stability.

Yes, I would agree that the Phantom's are a bit string sensitive due to their flexibility. I don't play with poly so a synthetic string with a tension in the lower 50's is ideal. One thing I did notice is with the open pattern the Phantoms eat string. I am looking to go with a 15 gauge synthetic string on the mains and 17 on the crosses. I was thinking of trying Prince Premier Control 15L because it is fairly soft and will not beat up my arm.
I played today with the 100P today with 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9 as well as 1.5 grams on the butt of the handle. The stability and plow with this frame are phenomenal with the little bit of extra. There was also a nice increase in pop. I can still generate easy spin and depth with the extra weight without working really hard with a nice smooth strokes. My OHBH has improved with the 100P with topspin and slice. This racquet hits a heavy ball with alot less effort than the Blade v7 98 16x19. The comfort is quite good with no discomfort when hitting off center. I know it is still the honeymoon phase but the new 100P is the best racquet that I have played with in a couple of years. I am really surprised it's not a best seller at TW. I just need to dial in with a more durable synthetic gut that is arm friendly and not too expensive. I had a set of Prince Synthetic Gut with Duraflex 15L which I will try on the mains at 54lbs and Gosen Micro 17 on the crosses at the same tension. Definitely should be comfortable but have to see how the playability and durability are. I was also thinking of trying Gamma TNT 15L for the mains if I don't like the Prince string. IMO Gosen Micro 17 on the crosses is the way to go with the 15L synthetic to provide some nice feel and playability.
 

Humble_Bear

New User
I really like the 100P & also wonder why it's not very popular. Looks like your copy is closer to the specs than my demo.

FYI, You can fit a nickel (.16 oz/4.5g) + dime(.07oz/2g) in the butt cap to lighten up the head.
 

tennis347

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I really like the 100P & also wonder why it's not very popular. Looks like your copy is closer to the specs than my demo.

FYI, You can fit a nickel (.16 oz/4.5g) + dime(.07oz/2g) in the butt cap to lighten up the head.
Prince is definitely making a comeback but the younger players coming up like a stiffer frame that is powerful. The 100P has a little bit of the modern feel as there is a little firmness in the upper hoop but IMO it plays like the old school racquets from many years ago. I used to play with the Head Classic Midplus which was a 102 sq inch very flexible frame. The 100P plays similarly but in a lighter package.

With the added weight my 100P is definitely at the spec SW of 328. For a players racquet in the 11.5 ounce with a 100 sq in hoop, it is one of best IMO. The 100P is so much easier to use than the Blade v7 Blade 98 16x19 and offers much better spin, ball pocketing, control and power. The 100P has a very consistent response with no hot spots in the sweet spot unlike the Blade where the ball would launch unexpectedly. I can't believe how consistent my game has become with the 100P that I have become a ball machine that hits heavy topspin, lol .

I will be back for a 2nd 100P very soon!!
 
I played today with the 100P today with 2 grams of lead at 3 and 9 as well as 1.5 grams on the butt of the handle. The stability and plow with this frame are phenomenal with the little bit of extra. There was also a nice increase in pop. I can still generate easy spin and depth with the extra weight without working really hard with a nice smooth strokes. My OHBH has improved with the 100P with topspin and slice. This racquet hits a heavy ball with alot less effort than the Blade v7 98 16x19. The comfort is quite good with no discomfort when hitting off center. I know it is still the honeymoon phase but the new 100P is the best racquet that I have played with in a couple of years. I am really surprised it's not a best seller at TW. I just need to dial in with a more durable synthetic gut that is arm friendly and not too expensive. I had a set of Prince Synthetic Gut with Duraflex 15L which I will try on the mains at 54lbs and Gosen Micro 17 on the crosses at the same tension. Definitely should be comfortable but have to see how the playability and durability are. I was also thinking of trying Gamma TNT 15L for the mains if I don't like the Prince string. IMO Gosen Micro 17 on the crosses is the way to go with the 15L synthetic to provide some nice feel and playability.
I'm glad that you've had such a positive experience with this racquet so far. Have you served or volleyed with it, and if so, how does it feel and how's it working out for you? I'm honestly shocked that the 100p isn't a bestseller at TW considering how well racquets like the Gravity Pro are selling, but I do think that even though there is no bestseller sign on the webpage, the 100p is probably second or third bestseller in the current Phantom lineup.

My tracking number for the Phantom 100p I ordered last week finally came in today, and I ordered a second Phantom 100p mildly used from someone on here. Both strung with Hyper-G at 52lbs. I won't know the specs of the new one I bought until I receive it but the mildly used one is bang on spec for unstrung weight (exactly 310g) and has a balance of 31.9cm....strung SW should be 330.
Prince is definitely making a comeback but the younger players coming up like a stiffer frame that is powerful. The 100P has a little bit of the modern feel as there is a little firmness in the upper hoop but IMO it plays like the old school racquets from many years ago. I used to play with the Head Classic Midplus which was a 102 sq inch very flexible frame. The 100P plays similarly but in a lighter package.

With the added weight my 100P is definitely at the spec SW of 328. For a players racquet in the 11.5 ounce with a 100 sq in hoop, it is one of best IMO. The 100P is so much easier to use than the Blade v7 Blade 98 16x19 and offers much better spin, ball pocketing, control and power. The 100P has a very consistent response with no hot spots in the sweet spot unlike the Blade where the ball would launch unexpectedly. I can't believe how consistent my game has become with the 100P that I have become a ball machine that hits heavy topspin, lol .

I will be back for a 2nd 100P very soon!!
It heavily depends on the younger player in question. There's obviously quite a few who prefer Pure Drive/Pure Aero style racquets, but in the past two years or so I'm seeing a small resurgence of younger players using "players frame" type racquets or racquets somewhere in between. Most notably the v7 Blade, but I'm seeing more ProStaff 97's, VCore Pro 97s, VCore 98s, Gravity Pros, etc at least in my area. On the futures/burgeoning junior pro circuits I can't say the same, but I think that the next five years is going to see more of a shift towards more flexible racquets again because of all of the elbow issues and easily cracked frames associated with ultra-stiff racquets. Especially with the Clash, these Phantoms, and the Gravity line from Head, I think this is gonna become more popular.
 
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tennis347

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I'm glad that you've had such a positive experience with this racquet so far. Have you served or volleyed with it, and if so, how does it feel and how's it working out for you? I'm honestly shocked that the 100p isn't a bestseller at TW considering how well racquets like the Gravity Pro are selling, but I do think that even though there is no bestseller sign on the webpage, the 100p is probably second or third bestseller in the current Phantom lineup.

My tracking number for the Phantom 100p I ordered last week finally came in today, and I ordered a second Phantom 100p mildly used from someone on here. Both strung with Hyper-G at 52lbs. I won't know the specs of the new one I bought until I receive it but the mildly used one is bang on spec for unstrung weight (exactly 310g) and has a balance of 31.9cm....strung SW should be 330.

It heavily depends on the younger player in question. There's obviously quite a few who prefer Pure Drive/Pure Aero style racquets, but in the past two years or so I'm seeing a small resurgence of younger players using "players frame" type racquets or racquets somewhere in between. Most notably the v7 Blade, but I'm seeing more ProStaff 97's, VCore Pro 97s, VCore 98s, Gravity Pros, etc at least in my area. On the futures/burgeoning junior pro circuits I can't say the same, but I think that the next five years is going to see more of a shift towards more flexible racquets again because of all of the elbow issues and easily cracked frames associated with ultra-stiff racquets. Especially with the Clash, these Phantoms, and the Gravity line from Head, I think this is gonna become more popular.

I don't know where you purchased your first 100p, but I'd recommend that you go through RacquetGuys for your second one. They're selling these new 100p's for $180 instead of $200, and shipping is free.
Yes, I hit some serves and volleys with the 100P. It really is very easy to serve with and the spin potential is off the charts and there is good pop and directional control. I only hit 1 double fault in a practice match. I am not really a good volleyer but it was quite stable at the net with really good feel. The more I play with this racquet the more confidence I seem to be getting in my game coming from the Blade v7 98 16 x 19. I agree that the 100P will be a huge success and be a top seller on the Phantom line. I will check out that other website you recommended for a second one!
 
Yes, I hit some serves and volleys with the 100P. It really is very easy to serve with and the spin potential is off the charts and there is good pop and directional control. I only hit 1 double fault in a practice match. I am not really a good volleyer but it was quite stable at the net with really good feel. The more I play with this racquet the more confidence I seem to be getting in my game coming from the Blade v7 98 16 x 19. I agree that the 100P will be a huge success and be a top seller on the Phantom line. I will check out that other website you recommended for a second one!
Good to know the topspin is still very good. I know what I'm gonna say is kind of senseless but the one thing I've been a little concerned about with the 100p is amount of touch/feel compared to the 100x, especially since the amount of feel with that one was greater than any other racquet I've hit with save for the legendary PS85. I guess I should stop worrying and wait till I get my hands on these sticks there shouldn't be anything to worry about if that razorthin beam is any indication of anything.
 

tennis347

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Good to know the topspin is still very good. I know what I'm gonna say is kind of senseless but the one thing I've been a little concerned about with the 100p is amount of touch/feel compared to the 100x, especially since the amount of feel with that one was greater than any other racquet I've hit with save for the legendary PS85. I guess I should stop worrying and wait till I get my hands on these sticks there shouldn't be anything to worry about if that razorthin beam is any indication of anything.
I have played with the 100X 305 for a few months and have to tell you that touch and feel is better with the 100P. I also played with the PS 85 back in my early days of playing.
I can tell you that the Phantoms don't play well at high tensions due to the flexible nature of the frame. If you play with poly, a tension in the high 40's to 50 lbs should work well. I noticed as the tension dropped the feel, touch and ball pocketing improved. You should be a happy camper with the 100P.
 

Papa Mango

Semi-Pro
I'm glad that you've had such a positive experience with this racquet so far. Have you served or volleyed with it, and if so, how does it feel and how's it working out for you? I'm honestly shocked that the 100p isn't a bestseller at TW considering how well racquets like the Gravity Pro are selling, but I do think that even though there is no bestseller sign on the webpage, the 100p is probably second or third bestseller in the current Phantom lineup.

My tracking number for the Phantom 100p I ordered last week finally came in today, and I ordered a second Phantom 100p mildly used from someone on here. Both strung with Hyper-G at 52lbs. I won't know the specs of the new one I bought until I receive it but the mildly used one is bang on spec for unstrung weight (exactly 310g) and has a balance of 31.9cm....strung SW should be 330.
Careful with the Prince rackets nowadays, I have demoed/bought quite a few phantoms in the last couple of months ;) while none of them have been over spec, at-least 3 were quite a bit under spec (10-15gms).
My advice would be to measure the new one you have ordered before stringing/hitting with it.

It heavily depends on the younger player in question. There's obviously quite a few who prefer Pure Drive/Pure Aero style racquets, but in the past two years or so I'm seeing a small resurgence of younger players using "players frame" type racquets or racquets somewhere in between. Most notably the v7 Blade, but I'm seeing more ProStaff 97's, VCore Pro 97s, VCore 98s, Gravity Pros, etc at least in my area. On the futures/burgeoning junior pro circuits I can't say the same, but I think that the next five years is going to see more of a shift towards more flexible racquets again because of all of the elbow issues and easily cracked frames associated with ultra-stiff racquets. Especially with the Clash, these Phantoms, and the Gravity line from Head, I think this is gonna become more popular.

I don't know where you purchased your first 100p, but I'd recommend that you go through RacquetGuys for your second one. They're selling these new 100p's for $180 instead of $200, and shipping is free.
FYI, not kosher to advertise competitors here.
 
Careful with the Prince rackets nowadays, I have demoed/bought quite a few phantoms in the last couple of months ;) while none of them have been over spec, at-least 3 were quite a bit under spec (10-15gms).
My advice would be to measure the new one you have ordered before stringing/hitting with it.


FYI, not kosher to advertise competitors here.
Honestly, I think the only three companies one can buy a tennis racquet from and not have to worry about QC are Yonex, Angell, and Dahcor, the last two of which sell custom racquets. At least Prince QC overall isn't as woefully awful as Wilson, Babolat, and Head (especially for the Gravity line); they're no Yonex still though. 10-15 grams is pretty off, but at least they were consistently off :laughing::laughing: I guess it just takes a little time for manufacturers to adjust to new molds and layups.

I'll definitely compare the weight/balance of my two Phantom 100p's when I receive them; one of them is used and the seller told me the unstrung specs of that one (exactly 310g, 31.9cm balance so SW will be around 330 strung); I'm gonna have to rely on feeling how they swing since I don't have the fancy equipment to measure weight/SW. Will compare the in-hand feel to my 100x if it doesn't sell by the time my racquets get to me.

Thanks for telling me. I'll make note to not do that again.
 
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I agree that the racquet head speed is fine. The speed is higher with the 100X 305, but still good with the 100P. And today is my day to use it! (I alternate the two - keeps the brain working)
 

Papa Mango

Semi-Pro
I just ordered a second 100P! My pair of Blades are being put up for sale. After a 3rd hitting session with this racquet I am ready to make the switch with confidence.
Good choice. Make sure to check the specs on the racket before you hit with it. My blades have already been sold and I am yet to receive my 100x's. [emoji20]
 

tennis347

Hall of Fame
I just received my second 100P from TW and it was 5 grams over but I strung the with Gamma Tnt 15L which weighs 20 grams. This accounts for being the extra 5 grams. The spec was on the money and will be very close in weight with the first one I bought. Prince has better QC than Wilson.
 
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Arzivu

Rookie
So, 5 more grams will have a very different impact in your game? If I were you, I would stop overanalyzing rackets, strings, weights and tensions and just enjoy tennis..
 

tennis347

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So, 5 more grams will have a very different impact in your game? If I were you, I would stop overanalyzing rackets, strings, weights and tensions and just enjoy tennis..
I originally forgot to account for the string I used this time so the racquet was actually spot on with spec weight. I revised my prior posting. I still do want to have a matching pair of racquets which is important to me.
 

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Even with the hefty swingweight, the 100P is still head light enough for easy racquet head speed. I find that I don't have to swing as hard with the 100P compared to the Blade v7 98 16x19 to get good height and depth on my shots.
 
I just received my second 100P from TW and it was 5 grams over but I strung the with Gamma Tnt 15L which weighs 20 grams. This accounts for being the extra 5 grams. The spec was on the money and will be very close in weight with the first one I bought. Prince has better QC than Wilson.
That was very nice of you to set that record straight. I was all in favor of you returning it if it was a 7 gram swing from the first one, but you got to the bottom of it and were very fair about it.
 
Gonna chime in here. Just received both of my 100P's today. One of them is spot on 310g unstrung and had a 31.9cm measured balance. SW is about 330. These measurements were taken by the seller (s/o to MishitWinner on here). Second 100P feels like it's about the same weight, but the SW feels about 2 pts higher; once I put the OG on it feels very similar to the first 100P in terms of weight/balance. Doing shadow swings with these: the 100Ps swing heftier than the 100x. They also swing a little heftier than my Dunlop CX200 Tour because of the 100 headsize. These racquets feel maneuverable though, and they come around faster than the Gravity Pro I tested a while back. Bouncing balls around with 'em and practicing a couple volleys: nice, plush but solid response on the stringbed. You can feel the stability & plow through, which I was missing from the 100x. 100x may have slightly better touch/feel but it could just be the strings, still tons of feel with the 100p. I'm really looking forward to testing these on groundstrokes, serves and returns.
 

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I am using a Phantom Pro 100P for a while. It came under spec around 300g static weight and very low swingweight. I added 3.5g lead under the bumber at 12 and a Head leather grip. My string setup is Isospeed Professional 1.20 with Gosen G-Tour 1.23 on the crosses at 23.5/22kg. The overall weight with this setup with an overgrip and dampener is 340g and the swingweight is 322 (319 without dampener)The flex is 62RA strung. In my experience the Pro 100P doesn’t have hefty swingweight and was like an underpowered fly swatter in stock form, but a good platform for customization. I also have an old Head Lite Tour 630 which has a flex of 52RA strung. The Prince does not come close in terms of flex and comfort.


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I am using a Phantom Pro 100P for a while. It came under spec around 300g static weight and very low swingweight. I added 3.5g lead under the bumber at 12 and a Head leather grip. My string setup is Isospeed Professional 1.20 with Gosen G-Tour 1.23 on the crosses at 23.5/22kg. The overall weight with this setup with an overgrip and dampener is 340g and the swingweight is 322 (319 without dampener)The flex is 62RA strung. In my experience the Pro 100P doesn’t have hefty swingweight and was like an underpowered fly swatter in stock form, but a good platform for customization. I also have an old Head Lite Tour 630 which has a flex of 52RA strung. The Prince does not come close in terms of flex and comfort.


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The new 100P is definitely superior IMO than the original due to the addition of twaron added at 2 and 10 as well in the throat. I notice a little more power, better stability and comfort. I have a pair of new 100P and they are within a gram or 2 of one another. Definitely one of the best racquets I have used in the last number of years.
 
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