Prince Phantom Pro 93p swingweight?

pico

Semi-Pro
Hi guys. I just purchased a Phantom 93p from TW. I was expecting to see a swingweight of 330 on the racquet as shown in the specs for the racquet on TW. However, the racquet i received shows 300. What is the swingweight?
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
Full bed multi at 55 lbs. and in cold weather mishits hurt my hand. The leather isn't as soft anymore and the string stiffens up. I'd imagine poly would hurt even more in cold weather since they don't have much shock absorbing characteristics.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
I got mine for a week now and have it strung with Cyclone at 47. Haven't had a chance to play it yet since i am still resting my calf. I will give it a go on Sunday. Super excited! With the smaller head size, what areas of your game did you find needed the most adjustment - serve return?
 

TennisHound

Legend
I got mine for a week now and have it strung with Cyclone at 47. Haven't had a chance to play it yet since i am still resting my calf. I will give it a go on Sunday. Super excited! With the smaller head size, what areas of your game did you find needed the most adjustment - serve return?
You'll most likely have to get used to the insane angles, slices, and volleys you’ll be able to hit. And then adjust to serves and ground strokes.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I use the 18G full poly as my set up. I've used the RPM Blast (@ 48 lbs), Luxilon Timo (@ 45 lbs) and Signum Pro Hyperion (@ 48 lbs). I think thicker strings make the 93P feel boardy.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I got mine for a week now and have it strung with Cyclone at 47. Haven't had a chance to play it yet since i am still resting my calf. I will give it a go on Sunday. Super excited! With the smaller head size, what areas of your game did you find needed the most adjustment - serve return?
It's weird, honestly. I used the Volkl PB10 and felt its size against heavy hitters. I had a hard time making clean contacts with heavy topspin shots, but when I play with the 93P, I honestly don't notice its size (*or lack of). In the beginning, I'd rotate the 93P with other 97 or 98" frames in my bag without having any issues. I think the shape of the 93P's hitting surface (*round) helps more with my game, whereas the narrow and elongated shape of the PB10 did not.

It really was a point-and-shoot type of a frame for me where I didn't really have to change anything. Rather, I just became more aggressive in playing due to the inherent playing characteristics of the 93P, which really rewards the aggressive attacking play. My favorite part of using it is the service returns and ripping my backhand winners.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
I finally got to use my Phantom. I seem to adjust decent but need more time. The angles are awesome as mentioned earlier. I found that I struggled with the launch angle. I do also play with a Gravity Pro and am used to 18 x 20s but this was different. I have it strung with Cyclone at 47. Maybe going down to say 45 might help with the launch? I love serving with it!!!
 

pico

Semi-Pro
I also ordered Tourna Big Hitter Silver Rough 17g. I will string my Phantom with it at 45lbs.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Any of you guys use lead on it?
I've added Tungsten Tape at 3 & 9 o'clock and an equivalent amount at 7" above butt cap. I also have an overgrip. Plays great. I may try adding a very small amount at 12 o'clock to further expand the sweet-spot, but I'm playing very well with it as is.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
I've added Tungsten Tape at 3 & 9 o'clock and an equivalent amount at 7" above butt cap. I also have an overgrip. Plays great. I may try adding a very small amount at 12 o'clock to further expand the sweet-spot, but I'm playing very well with it as is.
What tension and strings? I got mine with Big Hitter Silver Rough at 43lbs and it still seemed low powered. I only have 2g of lead at 12.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
What tension and strings? I got mine with Big Hitter Silver Rough at 43lbs and it still seemed low powered. I only have 2g of lead at 12.
I have strung mine with 1.15mm (18L) Hyper-G @ 48M/45C. At that tension, the string bed was very controlled and a little stiffer than I desired. It took several hitting sessions and the addition of the Tungsten Tape to make the racquet play better, but the stringbed is still firmer than desired. Next, I will try a softer string at 45/42 and see how that goes and maybe in the future Hyper-G again at a lower tension (in order to see whether it was the feel of the string I wasn't crazy about or just the tension). I will also try a gut/ poly hybrid as well.

I added about 1g of Tungsten tape at 3 & 9 respectively and I added about 4-5g at 7" above the butt cap. I may try adding another 1g at 12 o'clock to see if it further improves things or not.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I Hyper G 16 sitting in my bag. Would you recommend 46 or 48 for 18x20?


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The 18x20 typically requires a thinner gauge to play well. It will play very boardy with a 16 gauge. If you must use it, definitely drop the tension to 46, maybe even 44.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
Cut out the crosses and strung with Power Fibre II at 48lbs. So lets see how Big Hitter Silver Rough at 43lbs and Power Fibre at 48lbs works tonight!
 

pico

Semi-Pro
Wow!!!! I get what you guys are on about now!!!! The setup with BHSR on mains at 43lbs and Power Fibre II on crosses at 48lbs felt so good. I was feeling my shots and man its so smooth!!! I think i need to go a little tighter!
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
FWIW, my go to setup with the 93p is 18g Tier 1 Black Knight at 42lbs.

Edit: Hyper G 1.15 at the same tension is pretty awesome, too.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I admit to not understanding what people mean by "boardy."
Means it feels like hitting with a plank. It's common with 18x20 which do not have the right string / gauge / tension. The tight pattern reduces how much the ball sink into the string bed, and that needs to be compensated typically by going for a thinner gauge and / or dropping the tension vs a more open pattern.
 

denoted

Rookie
I have one, and I've hit with RPM Blast and HyperG strung at 50 at 16 gauge. I also have played with a 17 gauge gut/poly hybrid. There is definitely a difference, but I would not describe it terms of boardiness. The poly is tighter feeling and deader, less powerful. I've also played with 17g full poly in the same brands, and the only difference I could feel was that the racquet was lighter.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
I have a question - if I strung with 43 lbs (poly main) and 50 lbs (multi crosses) and I feel that I want to go tighter since I was overhitting just a little - do I increase tension on the mains? the poly? both?
 

max

Legend
It's weird, honestly. I used the Volkl PB10 and felt its size against heavy hitters. I had a hard time making clean contacts with heavy topspin shots, but when I play with the 93P, I honestly don't notice its size (*or lack of). In the beginning, I'd rotate the 93P with other 97 or 98" frames in my bag without having any issues. I think the shape of the 93P's hitting surface (*round) helps more with my game, whereas the narrow and elongated shape of the PB10 did not.

It really was a point-and-shoot type of a frame for me where I didn't really have to change anything. Rather, I just became more aggressive in playing due to the inherent playing characteristics of the 93P, which really rewards the aggressive attacking play. My favorite part of using it is the service returns and ripping my backhand winners.

matches my experience, too. We should play sometime.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
It's weird, honestly. I used the Volkl PB10 and felt its size against heavy hitters. I had a hard time making clean contacts with heavy topspin shots, but when I play with the 93P, I honestly don't notice its size (*or lack of). In the beginning, I'd rotate the 93P with other 97 or 98" frames in my bag without having any issues. I think the shape of the 93P's hitting surface (*round) helps more with my game, whereas the narrow and elongated shape of the PB10 did not.

It really was a point-and-shoot type of a frame for me where I didn't really have to change anything. Rather, I just became more aggressive in playing due to the inherent playing characteristics of the 93P, which really rewards the aggressive attacking play. My favorite part of using it is the service returns and ripping my backhand winners.
I never had problems with it when it came to spin (the PB10 Mid), but under hard-hitting conditions with an opponent at my (or higher) level, I would find that I was that fraction late and framing my shots. I put that down to fitness and for that reason used to use the C10 Pro in match play against those opponents. I don't feel like I have the same problem with the Phantom Pro 93P, although I am going to play both it and the PB10 Mid back-to-back at some point in the near future in order to see if I still have the same issue.

I found the PB10 Mid to be more comfortable but had much less adjustment time and timing issues with the 93P. The PB10 Mid comes through the ball too fast for me, so I had to try to weight up the head more in order to "feel it" better in space if that makes sense.
 

max

Legend
I bought a pair of PB10mids perhaps 10 years ago. Was using a weighted to 349g Volkl C-9. The PB 10 mid is a nice frame, but it swung a lot faster and didn't have the same mass in the head as my C-9s. It messed with my timing, aggravated my elbow ((yeah, it's an important lesson: give yourself plenty of transition time between frames)).

I had no issues with the 93P. It's just a fine racquet and I expect to use mine for the next 10 years.
 

Grieeegoorr

Rookie
I have a question - if I strung with 43 lbs (poly main) and 50 lbs (multi crosses) and I feel that I want to go tighter since I was overhitting just a little - do I increase tension on the mains? the poly? both?
Haven't you had the poly mains in longer than the multi crosses? I recon the poly mains have dropped a bit of tension since they were originally strung, so what your feeling now is not 43lbs of tension. I would increase the mains tension just slightly if I was restringing both mains and crosses, in your situation 45/50 would be my next experiment.
 

pico

Semi-Pro
Haven't you had the poly mains in longer than the multi crosses? I recon the poly mains have dropped a bit of tension since they were originally strung, so what your feeling now is not 43lbs of tension. I would increase the mains tension just slightly if I was restringing both mains and crosses, in your situation 45/50 would be my next experiment.
I do have Hyper-G 18g with me. I am thinking of trying that at 49lbs in mains and Power Fiber II 17g multifilament at 53lbs in the crosses. Will update on how it fares.
 

4-string

Professional
Signum Pro X-perience or Tier One Black Knight.

Both 1.18 gauge, mid 40s tension.

Also really liked the silver version of Prince’s XTC 1.18. but believe that string has been discontinued.
 

MarinaHighTennis

Professional
I got mine for a week now and have it strung with Cyclone at 47. Haven't had a chance to play it yet since i am still resting my calf. I will give it a go on Sunday. Super excited! With the smaller head size, what areas of your game did you find needed the most adjustment - serve return?
My serve has been a little weak after playing with it for 2 weeks. Been resorting to slices and my kicks have been weak.

My FH has been hit or miss (winner or miss) for singles as I feel like I have to slow down my fh to get the ball in. I primarily hit flat as well.

BH improved exponentially I can hit it anywhere and stable. Just got to remember to try to clear the net first.

Volleys improved exponentially. Been a god at net.

In doubles this racquet has been awesome to me.
Singles it's hit or miss. I can miss every fh and get return aces off my serve but maybe I'm still getting used to it. Still trying to figure out how to hit a good singles fh
 

pico

Semi-Pro
My serve has been a little weak after playing with it for 2 weeks. Been resorting to slices and my kicks have been weak.

My FH has been hit or miss (winner or miss) for singles as I feel like I have to slow down my fh to get the ball in. I primarily hit flat as well.

BH improved exponentially I can hit it anywhere and stable. Just got to remember to try to clear the net first.

Volleys improved exponentially. Been a god at net.

In doubles this racquet has been awesome to me.
Singles it's hit or miss. I can miss every fh and get return aces off my serve but maybe I'm still getting used to it. Still trying to figure out how to hit a good singles fh
Whats your fh grip?
 

pico

Semi-Pro
My serve has been a little weak after playing with it for 2 weeks. Been resorting to slices and my kicks have been weak.

My FH has been hit or miss (winner or miss) for singles as I feel like I have to slow down my fh to get the ball in. I primarily hit flat as well.

BH improved exponentially I can hit it anywhere and stable. Just got to remember to try to clear the net first.

Volleys improved exponentially. Been a god at net.

In doubles this racquet has been awesome to me.
Singles it's hit or miss. I can miss every fh and get return aces off my serve but maybe I'm still getting used to it. Still trying to figure out how to hit a good singles fh
Also, what did you string at and what strings?
 
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