Prince Phantom Pro and Phantom Pro100P

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Which Phantom Pro does everyone prefer for 2HBHs? The PP100, PP100P or PP100P (18x20)? I'm switching away from the 93P (18x20) because I'm going to transition to a 2HBH to save my arm. Hitting a one hander is fun with the 93P, but it's a lot of wear and tear on one arm when I could reduce the wear if I switched to a two hander. The 93P doesn't feel right to me when swung with two hands, it feels like a wiffle ball bat.
Phantom Pro 100 18x20.
 
Have any PP100P players been using the newer Textreme Tour 310? I'm really enjoying it. More pop on serves and easier to hit defensive shots. There's still a nice amount of flex, although not as much as the PP100P.

I really like both racquets.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Have any PP100P players been using the newer Textreme Tour 310? I'm really enjoying it. More pop on serves and easier to hit defensive shots. There's still a nice amount of flex, although not as much as the PP100P.

I really like both racquets.
Used both and preferred the 310 by a mile.
 

tariqsaleem

New User
Which Phantom Pro does everyone prefer for 2HBHs? The PP100, PP100P or PP100P (18x20)? I'm switching away from the 93P (18x20) because I'm going to transition to a 2HBH to save my arm. Hitting a one hander is fun with the 93P, but it's a lot of wear and tear on one arm when I could reduce the wear if I switched to a two hander. The 93P doesn't feel right to me when swung with two hands, it feels like a wiffle ball bat.
I added 3 grams at 3, 9 and 12 in the price 93p 18x20 and added an over grip and it hits a very mean double hander for me now. With lots of power and directional control.

Have you tried adding weight to the 93p

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lima

Semi-Pro
I was thinking to replace Phantom 100P Pro with Phantom Pro 100. 100P Pro is hurting my shoulder. What can I expect if I change to Pro 100? Maybe some other racquet? Plesase don't hesitate to recommend something :)
 

jbdbackfan

Rookie
Been hitting with Phantom Pro and still struggling to gel with the feel on groundstrokes. Really have lost a lot of power on serve too. Added 2, 2” strips of tape at 10 and same at 2 to bring SW near 330 but still struggling to gel with this.
 

tariqsaleem

New User
Been hitting with Phantom Pro and still struggling to gel with the feel on groundstrokes. Really have lost a lot of power on serve too. Added 2, 2” strips of tape at 10 and same at 2 to bring SW near 330 but still struggling to gel with this.
Are you using full poly... If so what tension are you playing at. For me it plays best at low tension.. Between the 37-42 mark. Any higher and it feels boardy.

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jbdbackfan

Rookie
Are you using full poly... If so what tension are you playing at. For me it plays best at low tension.. Between the 37-42 mark. Any higher and it feels boardy.

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Volkl cyclone at 50lbs. With a multi does it lose its control and have too much power?
 

tariqsaleem

New User
Volkl cyclone at 50lbs. With a multi does it lose its control and have too much power?
I dont think you will lose too much control. It really depends on what you are after. playing with multi would always mean more power and relatively less spin so it will depend on your style of play. I personally think volkyl cyclone at 50 is too high for this racket. A while back I tried volkyl cyclone tour in mains and volkyl cyclone in crosses at 45 and it played really well.

I haven't played with a multi in this racket though. I currently have Babolat synthetic gut which is a soft syn gut in the mains at 50 and poly in crosses at 46 and it plays very well but I have also added weight to the racket. In stock form I would have probably gone 47/43 or 45/45



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LeftyJunk

Rookie
I was thinking to replace Phantom 100P Pro with Phantom Pro 100. 100P Pro is hurting my shoulder. What can I expect if I change to Pro 100? Maybe some other racquet? Plesase don't hesitate to recommend something :)
My arm and shoulder started to hurt using the 100P only because I had to swing out to get any pace on the ball. Plus my slice serve was suffering from lack of pace as well. I picked up a couple of Tour 310's when they were on sale this summer and have not looked back!
 
I had my first hit with the Phantom Pro 100 last night. I just couldn't gel with it. First, the whole frame vibrated, even with a dampener. Second, the feel was too muted. I may be biased because I'm so used to the feel of the PP100P.

In contrast, I was hitting great with the Head Gravity MP (although it needs some lead).
 

topspinlob

Rookie
I found PPC to work well in the PP100P. I know that wasn't a string you asked about, but maybe you can use it as a comparison.
@DanS I play with PP100P. I have 3 of them. One of them I have PPA 17 (black) strung really like it.. I have PPA 16 (natural) in another one. I feel the 17G Black plays better for me than the 16G Natural? What gauge and color do you with your rackets?
 

Rafedovic

Rookie
Anyone stuck with the 100p? I’ve only had a couple of hits but hadn’t read the thread and strung it too high. I need more power and forgiveness.
 

tennis347

Professional
Anyone stuck with the 100p? I’ve only had a couple of hits but hadn’t read the thread and strung it too high. I need more power and forgiveness.
I really enjoy the the original and the new version of the 100P. If you use a poly, don't string above 50lbs. I don't know what level player you but you need to be a somewhat established player to get the most out of this frame. There is ample swingweight to get some power out of this racquet. I wouldn't consider the 100p a very low powered frame. The string set up is definitely important. I would recommend using a synthetic string in order to get easier power.
 

tennis347

Professional
I just want to reiterate that Prince has really done something special with the Phantom line. The original and new 100P are one of the best players frames IMO.
 

Rafedovic

Rookie
I really enjoy the the original and the new version of the 100P. If you use a poly, don't string above 50lbs. I don't know what level player you but you need to be a somewhat established player to get the most out of this frame. There is ample swingweight to get some power out of this racquet. I wouldn't consider the 100p a very low powered frame. The string set up is definitely important. I would recommend using a synthetic string in order to get easier power.
I had strung it in the high 50’s with synth/poly. Have just strung Now with hyper g/msv hex @ 39/35, it looks like it’s from the X-files!
 

tennis347

Professional
I had strung it in the high 50’s with synth/poly. Have just strung Now with hyper g/msv hex @ 39/35, it looks like it’s from the X-files!
The high 50's is ridiculously high for such a flexible frame. If you are using all poly, I would recommend a tension in the high 40's to about 50 depending on your style of play.
 

B Cubed

Semi-Pro
Agree with the tension comments here. My go to is the PP110P, to date. I've got Technifiber Multifeel in there around 51 pounds. The feel is great, and the power is huge. That was a selling point for me with the P100Ps - They just have that extra notch of power for a racket with the great phantom feel. Just the right mass, yet I could hit all day (either old or new iteration).
 

Rafedovic

Rookie
I’m liking it so far, it really brings some control back for me at low tension. Was playing a PA before, with ALU, at a slightly higher tension. It was really, REALLY nice, until I was a bit off on one out of the sweet spot. Really nice when everything is right, but way off otherwise. I’m not consistent enough to swing out on a high power frameWith low tension poly. I think a low tension poly is way more forgiving for me in a soft frame like this.
 

Rafedovic

Rookie
Agree with the tension comments here. My go to is the PP110P, to date. I've got Technifiber Multifeel in there around 51 pounds. The feel is great, and the power is huge. That was a selling point for me with the P100Ps - They just have that extra notch of power for a racket with the great phantom feel. Just the right mass, yet I could hit all day (either old or new iteration).
I’ll have to try a good syn gut, gut or multi next. I’m thinking gut poly, as it’s a bit too powerful for me in my vcore pro’s. I really like it in my Yonex’s but it’s a little too powerful so I’m thinking it could be my holy grail in this Phantom. Have try it out.
 

aussie

Professional
Just took delivery of a new Phantom Pro 100 (16x18) as the prices have dropped substantially, even here in Australia. Even though I could get the 100X 305g for not much more I'm coming from the Prince Tour 100 16x18 and 18x20 models which are the orange/black ported ones which really gel with my game. As they are both super flexy I felt the PP100 would make a better transition as it is a really low flex even though it has traditional grommets. I'm thinking of an initial stringing job of Wilson Syn Gut Power 16 mains (a very soft syn gut) at 50 with MSV Co-Focus 17 crosses at 46. To anyone familiar with the PP100, does that string combo and tensions seem like a good place to start? I'll use unleaded initially, just a Wilson Pro OG and Gamma Shockbuster dampener.
 

tennis347

Professional
Just took delivery of a new Phantom Pro 100 (16x18) as the prices have dropped substantially, even here in Australia. Even though I could get the 100X 305g for not much more I'm coming from the Prince Tour 100 16x18 and 18x20 models which are the orange/black ported ones which really gel with my game. As they are both super flexy I felt the PP100 would make a better transition as it is a really low flex even though it has traditional grommets. I'm thinking of an initial stringing job of Wilson Syn Gut Power 16 mains (a very soft syn gut) at 50 with MSV Co-Focus 17 crosses at 46. To anyone familiar with the PP100, does that string combo and tensions seem like a good place to start? I'll use unleaded initially, just a Wilson Pro OG and Gamma Shockbuster dampener.
I play with the new Phantom 100p but have tried the Phantom Pro in the past. The Pro version is a bit lower powered than the 100P. I would think that the thin poly on the mains will give you more spin and feel with the 16 gauge on the crosses to help maintain the tension. The poly at 46 or so sounds about right and 50 with 16 gauge synthetic on the crosses would be a good starting point. Depending on your style, skill level and if you add weight, the tension might need to go up slightly. I string my Phantom 100P at 53-55 Depending on the time of year with a full bed if Gosen Micro 16.
 
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