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Pumpkin

Semi-Pro
Hi. I'm contemplating trying some Prince racquets. Apart from our friends at tennis warehouse not a lot of shops sell them. Why is that? Not a lot of pros endorse them?

My first 'real' racquet was a Prince Response.

Anyway, I have my eye on the Prince Phantom 93" either in 18/20 or 14/18.

Any thoughts on Prince racquets?
 

guanzishou

Hall of Fame
Many years ago I played with Prince Original Graphite 93, which is the predecessor of the Phantom 93. I quite liked the feel of the racquet, but later on I felt that the profile of the handle was too "square" (boxy) and I prefer racquet handle profile that is more "rectangular". I played with that racquet without added weight and I felt that it was a bit unstable on off hits and it's lacking heftiness. It also gave me wrist pain.. not sure if it was because of the handle shape or the lack of heftiness or stability.
 

Blahovic

Semi-Pro
Hi. I'm contemplating trying some Prince racquets. Apart from our friends at tennis warehouse not a lot of shops sell them. Why is that? Not a lot of pros endorse them?

My first 'real' racquet was a Prince Response.

Anyway, I have my eye on the Prince Phantom 93" either in 18/20 or 14/18.

Any thoughts on Prince racquets?
I own the Phantom 97p and really like it. I have an Eastern grip forehand and hit pretty flat and big, for context.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Prince makes some great rackets for feel, comfort and control. The Phantom series in particular feels like slicing through butter on contact. The 93P is a lovely frame that does require some skill to get the most out of. I love hitting with it but I don't use it much in matches because it's less forgiving and at my age, forgiveness seems to supersede a lot of things. So I'm usually using my 107G.

I also pull out my POG 107 which is a great frame despite being 30 years old technology. But hefty for long term use but for an hour on the court its great.

I think if you have a game predicated on serve and FH, you are better off with a power tweener. But if you have an all court game with touch shots and play a lot of doubles, Prince frames really are great in that realm.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Great frames and very under rated. The phantom line is pretty low powered and some would call them noodley. The 107G and 93p are both great. I’m playing with the vortex 300 now and in my opinion it’s a much better clash.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
This thread made me wax nostalgic for the 93P so I went out and played my practice sets this morning with my 93P 18x20 strung up with Origin/Velocity at 52/48 lbs.

I've come to the conclusion that the 93P is an awesome frame if you are the better player. Against 3.5 players I can dictate the point from the get go with pinpoint precision. Total confidence to fire into the corners. Against 4.0's and higher I am defending more, hitting late more, re-directing more and blocking more. For that I do better with my 107's.

But man, nothing feels better than pasting a FH with that 93P. Just a beautifully balanced frame.
 

Turbo-87

Legend
I really like Prince racquets. I have a Hydrogen Chrome 300g and a Phantom 100x 290g in my bag right now and both of them play very well. I play mainly with the Chrome since the power is seductive, but I will use the Phantom from time to time because it is a better serving racquet and is a bit more accurate. I have both of them strung at 48 pounds and mainly use Solinco Tour Bite 17ga. If my swing is on and I actually come to the court to play, the Chrome is more fun for me because I can generate a lot of head speed for a 300g racquet and really cane my forehands to push players around. If my game is a little off, the lower-powered Phantom can help me out a bit. Both are pretty accurate for a 16x19. I say the Phantom serves better just because it seems to be more accurate for me. I tend to serve too hard trying to use the Chrome's power, so that's at least some of the reason I say that.
 
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tata

Hall of Fame
I have the current 93p 18x20 for the giggles for playing guys slightly below my level or on a good day at my own level. Strung in multifilament in the mid to high 40s you'd never have guessed it's a 18x20 in a 93. Plays fine with no dampener with little vibration and buttery soft feel. Main downside is lack of free power on serve but great to have in the bag even if not for serious play.
If you're a flatter hitter like me with an Eastern forehand grip the phantoms pair well. Just need to work out which one! Otherwise the textreme tour 100p or 95 might be up your alley for something slighly more modern for a tad more pop.
 

Blahovic

Semi-Pro
So if Prince racquets are so good, why don't they get endorsed much by pros?
Every racquet company can make a good racquet for a pro player, which is why pros will generally only go with the ones who can pay the most. Prince don't have the money to compete with Wilson and Head for endorsements.
 

Pumpkin

Semi-Pro
Every racquet company can make a good racquet for a pro player, which is why pros will generally only go with the ones who can pay the most. Prince don't have the money to compete with Wilson and Head for endorsements.
Wow. Unbelievable! I guess Head and Wilson make money out of other products in other sports.
 
Prince makes some great rackets for feel, comfort and control. The Phantom series in particular feels like slicing through butter on contact. The 93P is a lovely frame that does require some skill to get the most out of. I love hitting with it but I don't use it much in matches because it's less forgiving and at my age, forgiveness seems to supersede a lot of things. So I'm usually using my 107G.

I also pull out my POG 107 which is a great frame despite being 30 years old technology. But hefty for long term use but for an hour on the court its great.

I think if you have a game predicated on serve and FH, you are better off with a power tweener. But if you have an all court game with touch shots and play a lot of doubles, Prince frames really are great in that realm.
The ripstick is the best power tweener on the market.
 
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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Wow. Unbelievable! I guess Head and Wilson make money out of other products in other sports.
That wouldn't explain Babolat. They aren't a multinational corporation but still sponsor a lot of players.

But I think it really depends on where leadership thinks the best bang for the buck is. And Prince Leadership seems to think that research and engineering is where they want to spend their money as well as designing frames in the categories not dominated by other manufacturers.

And they aren't the only ones. You don't see Dunlop, ProKennex, or Volkl sponsoring many players yet they all make excellent frames.

That being said Iga Swiatek did win a slam playing an unsponsored Prince frame. Most pros will play who pays them the most so the fact that someone stuck with Prince without a sponsorship all the way to a grand slam final is saying something.
 

tomato123

Professional
I played with both the 18x20 and 14x18 versions of the Phantom 93P first gen and it was great for filling the nostalgia factor since I grew up playing with the POG and Michael Chang longbody. The 14x18 especially was ridiculous fun to play with and I regret trading it in, but if the current gen 14x18 goes on sale I might just pick it up to mess around with here and there. Just waiting patiently to see what kind of holiday sales come up... :)
 

Pumpkin

Semi-Pro
I played with both the 18x20 and 14x18 versions of the Phantom 93P first gen and it was great for filling the nostalgia factor since I grew up playing with the POG and Michael Chang longbody. The 14x18 especially was ridiculous fun to play with and I regret trading it in, but if the current gen 14x18 goes on sale I might just pick it up to mess around with here and there. Just waiting patiently to see what kind of holiday sales come up... :)
Yes. I'll have to try them. I'm just a bit worried about the 93 head size. In the past I've found the sweet spot too small and I lose control of the racquet head.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Yes. I'll have to try them. I'm just a bit worried about the 93 head size. In the past I've found the sweet spot too small and I lose control of the racquet head.
Sweetspot is a little small but not microscopic. Opens up if you string much lower tension than normal. Like 10 lbs lower than a tweener.
 
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