Prince Racquet Questions/Discussions

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Hello Prince! Back in the early 90's, almost everyone I knew had a Prince. The CTS line was great, I loved all those racquets. I'd like to see a revamped, back to basics Prince line with some "O Port-less frames" like the CTS line. Remember the Approach, the Lightning, the Precision, the Graduate, the Graphtech, the Response, the Synergies, etc.? Any plans on updating some old classics? I know the POG's have had this treatment. I'd buy a modern take on some classics.

Hi Canadad,

While we all agree that the CTS racquets were great frames and ahead of their time in the early 90's, there is no plan to update these classics. CTS’ tapered beam construction featured a stiffer head beam for more power, and a smaller, more flexible shaft for more control and comfort. This lives on in today’s EXO3 racquets with their larger cross sections at the tip and smaller cross sections in the shaft. With the total string freedom of EXO3 tech, we do not need a larger beam in the upper head of the frame - because EXO3 provides better response all the way to the edge of the frame - perfectly suited for the evolving game.

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 
Some of the lighter EXO3 models (e.g. the Black) have a reputation for being notoriously fragile.

Whilst I have owned and enjoyed Prince racquets in the past, I would not buy one currently due to bad feedback on durability from others.

Is there anything planned for the next generation of racquets to correct this deficiency?

Hi Caesar,

There was an instance where unfortunately, we had some production quality problems with the EXO3 Black at one of our racquet factories that has since been corrected. We have an accommodating return policy on any defective product and have taken care of consumers who had issues related to this. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused but stand by our QC as industry leading and are constantly making enhancements to fully eliminate these issues. We think you will find the 2012 collection the best yet.

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 
Hello Prince,

I was playing a tournament in Raleigh and heard that you guys came to one of the local clubs there and somehow 'made' a racquet to suit there strengths, like personalization. I thought this was really cool, and some of them bought some. First off is this true, and how much are they? Will it be online where you can do that?

Thanks!

Hi Nmillike,

Yes! We did visit the North Hills Country Club this summer to offer custom racquet services for full time academy players. Since they are part of our elite Who's Next Academy Alliance program, we offer them very personal attention. This includes a one-on-one consultation with one of our internal "gurus." First, athletes play test our full lineup of racquets and then they receive racquet customization (we take a PTC machine right on the court to personalize weight, balance, swingweight). They also receive access to racquets before they have been released to the general public!

For us, it's all about helping these elite athletes take their game to the next level and making sure that their equipment is 100% optimized to THEIR game. For now, this is not a program that will be available online. It is a program that we are ONLY offering to our Elite Academies and their full time students. However, we recommend joining us on Facebook where we hold one-on-one racquet customization contests from time to time!


Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 
Dear Prince,

I have two constructive comments:

1) I find the way the product line is laid out to be somewhat confusing to the consumer. The whole Black, white, Blue, & Silver naming system does not really imply any identity of the racquet like more distinctive naming of the frames.

2) the graphics of the rebel, ignite, and EXO graphite were absolutely hideous and I think a big part of why they stiffed at the retail level. I would personally select a more conservative classic look with less BLING. In contrast to those models, your staff nailed the EXO3 tour which is absolutely beautiful.

Hi Droliver,

Regarding question #1, let me try and help explain... We originally used this system because the average consumer typically remembers their racquet by color ("I dont know the name, but its the Red and Silver one." is something we often hear.) While a simple one color code works well for our Game Improvement racquets and that consumer (Silver, Blue, Red), it can sometimes add confusion to athletes looking for a new racquet from Prince. We’ll actually be following your suggestion and simplifying our naming strategy in 2012. Colors will ONLY be used for our Game Improvement ("Thunder Series" - Red, Blue and Silver) racquets. All other models will fall under one of three "name based" franchises that will give a specific identity to each, allowing players to better understand the specific performance benefits.

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 
Do you have a racquet that can rival the Babolat Aero Pro Drive? Higher power and spin level, but still fairly light?


Hi Power Player,

Not only rival, we believe outperform. For a lightweight frame with both power and spin, we recommend the following racquets:

EXO3 Black 100 - 305g / 10.8oz (unstrung)
EXO3 Black Team 100 - 280g / 9.9oz (unstrung)
EXO3 Tour Lite 100 - 255g / 9.0oz (unstrung)

The EXO3 Black 100 is our closest recommendation. It offers plenty of power and spin in a similar weight (305g vs. 300g), with the added benefit of EXO3 edge-to-edge tech weaponry as the game gets bigger, faster and more athletic.

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
I picked up a Rebel 105 last month and have been very impressed with it in every way...except to look. More black please!!!

Now looking to buy a couple more frames, but before I do (or at least try - they are not easy to find) Is this model due a revamp in early 2012

Thanksin advance
 
The EXO3 Tour 100 frames are perfect except for the O ports. Compared to competing frames the O port technology makes the frames feel hollow and even toy-like.

Are there any plans for Prince to produce solid frame (literally, as in no hollowing out for O ports) or is Prince completely committed to the O port approach?

Both the EXO3 Tour 100 with 16 mains and the Head Speed 300 share similar head sizes, string patterns, lengths, and both are soft frames. But the EXO3 feels, and literally is, hollow. The 300 feels soild.

Hi TimothyO,

We’re glad to hear that you are a fan of the EXO3 Tour Team and sorry to hear you have not been able to dial in the feel to your liking yet. We're absolutely committed to EXO3 technology, which is why there are no new performance racquets without it. Why? Because it makes the racquet perform better! EXO3 racquets have edge to edge performance. This means that the traditional "dead zone" in the upper half of the string bed is now able to return balls with authority.

Does EXO3 feel different? Yes! This is a direct result of total string freedom. To better understand “string freedom,” simply press your thumb down on the strings at the edge of an EXO3 frame. Then try it on any non-EXO3 racquet. You’ll notice that the strings are much freer with EXO3. From our experiences working with elite junior and pro athletes, we’d be curious to know if you experimented with string tension while demoing EXO3 racquets. EXO3 players often increase their strong tension by 5-10%. This will firm up the string bed and provide the more "solid" feel they’re used to, all while maintaining the edge to edge performance of EXO3 technology. Once players find the right string and string tension, it takes their EXO3 performance to a whole new level!

Moving on to your comments about EXO3 racquets feeling “hollow,” this is an unfortunate misconception. To be clear, we DO NOT remove ANY carbon fiber from our racquets during the production process. In fact, one of the most innovative aspects of this future technology is in the way the racquet is actually made. Instead of drilling holes (which does remove material) to create grommet holes, we create the EXO3 shape directly inside the mold during the curing process. That way, when the racquet comes out, the holes are already there. This eliminates the need to drill holes that would weaken the frame.

As a final disclaimer, we’d mention that our production process does include air "bladders" to create the final hollow interior of the racquet frame, but this is in line with industry standards across all brands.

Finally, we can say without hesitation that we are 100% committed to our EXO3 technology and will always continue to push the envelope of performance. Again, EXO3 frames are a next gen technology and they do feel different. And they perform different. In our Quality Demo Experiences, we encourage players to hit balls off center and observe the ball flights compared to what they feel. EXO3 produces a more comfortable feel with better ball response. By eliminating restrictive grommets, an EXO3 frame allows strings to move more freely. This translates into more response when hitting the ball outside the center of the frame. This evolution in racquet technology was designed specifically to keep up with the evolving way tennis is being played.

Thanks again for your questions, and let us know what you think of EXO3 after bumping up your string tension!

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.
 

Hooked

Rookie
Message to the Prince Product/Player development managers:

Please do not end production of the Original Graphite Mid. The fact that the racquet has been around for 30 years speaks VOLUMES about how well the frame balances all of the characteristics and compromises of a successful frame design. Letting it fade into history would be akin to turning your back on your own success, the vision of the original designer(s) and the loyal group of players who have discovered this frame and believe that it is superior to most, if not all, of the other “player’s” frames available today.

If you need to do something to make a business case internally to keep it in production, please consider a new cosmetic and name, but please do not change the materials or specifications in any way including the cross bar and open string pattern.

Perhaps renaming it the Prince Tour Graphite or similar as Original makes it sounds “old.” Take away the stigma of being an “old” design and perhaps a large percentage of the potential market would consider it along with the other “player’s” frames currently available. You could also give it a fresh look. Although I like the black frame and green lines, the gold print screams 1980’s. I’m sure your design team could work up a snazzy new look that would breathe new life into it. If this is not possible, please consider selling the manufacturing rights to someone who would continue to manufacture and market the frame. I, for one, would continue to purchase them.

I have played with a good amount of the “player’s” frames that have been available for the past several years and the POG is still at the top of my list along with the Diablo and a handful of standouts from the other major brands. Please do not walk away from your own success. Embrace it and cherish it. GOAT frames are rare occurrences and should be kept alive by the brands that were fortunate enough to bring them to life in the first place.

Thanks for listening.
 

whomad15

Semi-Pro
Message to the Prince Product/Player development managers:

Please do not end production of the Original Graphite Mid. The fact that the racquet has been around for 30 years speaks VOLUMES about how well the frame balances all of the characteristics and compromises of a successful frame design. Letting it fade into history would be akin to turning your back on your own success, the vision of the original designer(s) and the loyal group of players who have discovered this frame and believe that it is superior to most, if not all, of the other “player’s” frames available today.

If you need to do something to make a business case internally to keep it in production, please consider a new cosmetic and name, but please do not change the materials or specifications in any way including the cross bar and open string pattern.

Perhaps renaming it the Prince Tour Graphite or similar as Original makes it sounds “old.” Take away the stigma of being an “old” design and perhaps a large percentage of the potential market would consider it along with the other “player’s” frames currently available. You could also give it a fresh look. Although I like the black frame and green lines, the gold print screams 1980’s. I’m sure your design team could work up a snazzy new look that would breathe new life into it. If this is not possible, please consider selling the manufacturing rights to someone who would continue to manufacture and market the frame. I, for one, would continue to purchase them.

I have played with a good amount of the “player’s” frames that have been available for the past several years and the POG is still at the top of my list along with the Diablo and a handful of standouts from the other major brands. Please do not walk away from your own success. Embrace it and cherish it. GOAT frames are rare occurrences and should be kept alive by the brands that were fortunate enough to bring them to life in the first place.

Thanks for listening.

Too bad they made the exo3 with a 16x18, I know they answered me earlier saying that it "gave more control" but that was actually the reason my old coach's son switched back to the POG. He had more control/spin with the 14x18 than he did with the 16x18. I followed in his path shortly after purchasing his exo3 frames from him.

Now they have the warrior with the 14x18 but it weighs like... 10.6oz
 

Hooked

Rookie
My ideal Prince racquet:

Start with the POG Mid. Give it a modern look and name. I assume most POG Mid players are male, so something masculine and high-tech looking like a clear coat finish similar to what some manufacturers use on the Carbon Fiber parts of their high performance automobiles. Check out this custom paint job on a Wilson K90 as an example:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=258213&highlight=k90+clear

Call it it the Tour Graphite Mid (or Tour Graphite Mid Limited). Manufacture it to tighter than normal tolerances to guarantee better consistency from frame to frame. Perhaps even number them (1 of x, 2 of x, ...) and/or only have specially trained/qualified individuals building them. Maybe even include a special cover. Charge a premium: $200-250 US. People will buy them. I know I would buy several. I would also have an easier time convincing others to do the same. Most people think I'm crazy for using a 30 year old design. I think they are crazy for NOT using THIS 30 year old design. The physics of tennis have not changed and until something fundamental occurs again, like the shift from wood to graphite, it is still one of the best "player's" frames out there - bar none.

You may want to consider a series of racquets in this line including the Diablo and POG OS.

Thanks again for listening.
 

Power Player

Bionic Poster
Hi Power Player,

Not only rival, we believe outperform. For a lightweight frame with both power and spin, we recommend the following racquets:

EXO3 Black 100 - 305g / 10.8oz (unstrung)
EXO3 Black Team 100 - 280g / 9.9oz (unstrung)
EXO3 Tour Lite 100 - 255g / 9.0oz (unstrung)

The EXO3 Black 100 is our closest recommendation. It offers plenty of power and spin in a similar weight (305g vs. 300g), with the added benefit of EXO3 edge-to-edge tech weaponry as the game gets bigger, faster and more athletic.

Thanks,
Prince Tennis - Who's Next.

Thanks guys, I will demo the Black. Currently Demoing the EXO100 tour 16x18 and I am extremely impressed with this racquet so far. It may come down to the Black vs the Exo100 tour for me.

Have you considered making extended versions of these sticks? That would be awesome for us Ferrer-sized guys ;)
 

Orion3

Semi-Pro
My Dream racquet...
Oversize head, with the precision of a MS;
Some kind of adjustable weighting - to allow me to adjust my game on-the-fly;
Stable without being too head heavy;
A frame that naturally produces lots of topspin;
An 'anotomical' grip - like the Ones Donnay produced in the early 90's;
Light weight (under 300) but feeling like it has mass - you said 'dream';
A smooth frame with no edges;
Oh, and ....BLACK!
 
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