Prince RipStick 300 - coming soon!

pow

Hall of Fame
I wrote the following in another thread about my experience with Ripstick which I am attempting to switch too as well

"Ripstick is definitely not "straight up spin". More power and comfort than TXT line but with a much lower launch angle and less spin friendly than either the tour 310, 100X to name a few. For a 300g stick I have not found one with better plow through and the ports are clearly there to improve the maneuverability given its rather higher swing weight and its certainly the most tight 16x18 pattern I have ever seen. The best analogy I can use it is like the older Aeropro drive cortex but ported, also lower launch and amazing plow for a lighter stick"

TW just released their written review finally. I think Jason is way way off . Launch angle is low not anything close to high. Eric nails the review and he compared it to the pure aero at the end while I feel it is closer to the APDC

Thanks for the comparison. I haven't tried the Ripstick but looking at the Oports and specs I am surprised to learn that it has a lower launch angle and is less spin-friendly vs. the Textreme Tour 310. Would you happen to know why that is the case?
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for the comparison. I haven't tried the Ripstick but looking at the Oports and specs I am surprised to learn that it has a lower launch angle and is less spin-friendly vs. the Textreme Tour 310. Would you happen to know why that is the case?
I can't imagine it is less spin friendly especially when comtennis goes on to compare it to the old APD's which were spin monsters.

But I think spin and launch angle are really dependent on string type and tensions and not just frame, so you are bound to hear all sorts of contrary views depending on what strings people use in the frame.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
Thanks for the comparison. I haven't tried the Ripstick but looking at the Oports and specs I am surprised to learn that it has a lower launch angle and is less spin-friendly vs. the Textreme Tour 310. Would you happen to know why that is the case?
No prob, in my mind these days it has less to do with just string pattern alone and rather string spacing. When I take both sticks and place them over each other the spacing on the ripstick is tighter in the mid part of the frame compared to the 310.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
I can't imagine it is less spin friendly especially when comtennis goes on to compare it to the old APD's which were spin monsters.

But I think spin and launch angle are really dependent on string type and tensions and not just frame, so you are bound to hear all sorts of contrary views depending on what strings people use in the frame.
I actually use the same string and tension on both to compare, my go to is Volkl cyclone 16g at 54lbs. The same shots on both are less loopy with the ripstick, perhaps the higher swingweight factors in too. However if you look at the "Tennis shot maker" tool on TW, for the same 2 shots the shoots on Ripstick travel 0.4 ft more than the 310 so it might imply that the shots are flatter which is my experience as well. I have tail weighted my 310 to get close to the SW of the ripstick as well
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
I actually use the same string and tension on both to compare, my go to is Volkl cyclone 16g at 54lbs. The same shots on both are less loopy with the ripstick, perhaps the higher swingweight factors in too. However if you look at the "Tennis shot maker" tool on TW, for the same 2 shots the shoots on Ripstick travel 0.4 ft more than the 310 so it might imply that the shots are flatter which is my experience as well. I have tail weighted my 310 to get close to the SW of the ripstick as well
Yeah, for me the Rip plays more like the PD than the PA. But whatever.... who knows. I just know it is a great stick.

Edit, ha- quoted the wrong one, i meant the one about this one. Rip has a string patter closer to the PD too.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
Yeah, for me the Rip plays more like the PD than the PA. But whatever.... who knows. I just know it is a great stick.

Edit, ha- quoted the wrong one, i meant the one about this one. Rip has a string patter closer to the PD too.
for sure with the newest PD it's very similar to the ripstick , the older one with the light blue cosmetic had a much more open pattern
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
No prob, in my mind these days it has less to do with just string pattern alone and rather string spacing. When I take both sticks and place them over each other the spacing on the ripstick is tighter in the mid part of the frame compared to the 310.
I think that's because the thicker beam stiffer rackets have to tighten the sweetspot to dial in control and the flexier frames can get away with bigger spacing to accentuate spin. In the end they all have good spin potential but get there different ways. I don't think I've played too many modern 100 sq in frames that don't have easy access to spin.

Power levels definitely differ a lot between frames but spin is something every manufacturer is trying to bake in while still providing reasonable control.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
I think that's because the thicker beam stiffer rackets have to tighten the sweetspot to dial in control and the flexier frames can get away with bigger spacing to accentuate spin. In the end they all have good spin potential but get there different ways. I don't think I've played too many modern 100 sq in frames that don't have easy access to spin.

Power levels definitely differ a lot between frames but spin is something every manufacturer is trying to bake in while still providing reasonable control.
agreed , but just my perspective that when the Ripstick has that much amazing plow but lacks a bit in the maneuverability area it tends to lack the spin production of the other prince frames. If one hits without a full swing to clear the net and bring the ball down it can fly on you. That’s not bad if it suits your game just not for everyone. One of the top 4.5s here in Southern Ca has a real short compact swing and loved it , just not for me
 

pow

Hall of Fame
agreed , but just my perspective that when the Ripstick has that much amazing plow but lacks a bit in the maneuverability area it tends to lack the spin production of the other prince frames. If one hits without a full swing to clear the net and bring the ball down it can fly on you. That’s not bad if it suits your game just not for everyone. One of the top 4.5s here in Southern Ca has a real short compact swing and loved it , just not for me
That's a shame. I have the tt 310 and beast O3 98 and the spin is great on both but on the spec sheet I was interested in getting even more spin from the ripstick. Do you have any prince stick recommendations? I think I need to try out the 100x 305.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
That's a shame. I have the tt 310 and beast O3 98 and the spin is great on both but on the spec sheet I was interested in getting even more spin from the ripstick. Do you have any prince stick recommendations? I think I need to try out the 100x 305.
You never know if you like it. Ripstick for a lot of ppl is meant to have at least a few grams of puddy in the buttcap to make it more whippy. I’m a hardcore beast 03 98 fan so I hear you . The 100x 305 is a good stick but needs a lot of weight added. Compared to the Beast is just doesn’t have the plow in stock form but as you said is very spin friendly
 

pow

Hall of Fame
You never know if you like it. Ripstick for a lot of ppl is meant to have at least a few grams of puddy in the buttcap to make it more whippy. I’m a hardcore beast 03 98 fan so I hear you . The 100x 305 is a good stick but needs a lot of weight added. Compared to the Beast is just doesn’t have the plow in stock form but as you said is very spin friendly
Personally did you find more spin from the beast o3 98 or the tt310?
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
Personally did you find more spin from the beast o3 98 or the tt310?
Both are very close when I had the same string and tension but the edge goes to the tt 310 especially on serves. I wish I had the EU version of the ported tt310 to try , as a fan of the ports that would have been interesting
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
That's a shame. I have the tt 310 and beast O3 98 and the spin is great on both but on the spec sheet I was interested in getting even more spin from the ripstick. Do you have any prince stick recommendations? I think I need to try out the 100x 305.
I still think the Rip would be worth a demo. You can produce a lot of spin with it.... just like a pure drive. Yeah, it’s not a PA, but who thinks the PD doesn’t produce spin? True, i have maybe 5-6 grams on the handle and the Rip is plenty whippy that way. If you like ports, you could like it. I’m down the Q+5 Pro path but I’ll still mix in the Rip from time to time. It’s a great frame when you need a little more....
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
Gave my Blade v7 a last try before my Ripsticks arrive today

No amount of lead can fix that racquet, just no idea what it is doing and so sluggish
Wilson just ruined the Blade and it hasn’t been the same for years now.
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
Ripsticks came today
thanks TWH
Nice grip shape and they are very very quick through the air.
wonder if my opponent will be able to hear the swoosh-sounds quite loud!
Thought the balance would be a little head heavy but just about right, and you get a good sense of where the head is, with no lag.
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
No question, the Ripstick is very fast through the air. But my favorite part is that it doesn’t get slappy, like the PA did for me. It has enough SW to still give you that wrist lag feeling that i really like.
 
Can someone compare the Ripstick to the phantom 100p and 100X 305 (2020). I just want to know if the power difference is a lot and when you say the Oports create a mushy feel is it similar to the feel you get when you string a poly at real low tension? not crisp but mushy...
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
Blast 1.25 at 52
Feels crisp with pocketing
Can get a lot of head speed to get whatever angle on the ball you want so you can roll it, hit flat, hit dinky shots.
Launch angle completely unremarkable so not sure what comments about that have been.
No vagueness or mushiness at all and super comfortable - I was thrashing the ball and no jarring or discomfort at all.
My main worry was that the balance and thickness of the head would not suit OHBH but going from a 93p to the Ripstick was seamless.

ball comes off the stringbed with a lot of speed but no trouble keeping within the lines, it is actually quite accurate.

For day one could not be happier. Have tried a lot of frames and most get dismissed within 20 mins, usually because they are unwieldy, too stiff or you just have no confidence in them.

think anyone at the net thinking they are going to going to get an easy return to pick off is going to be in for a major surprise
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
Can someone compare the Ripstick to the phantom 100p and 100X 305 (2020). I just want to know if the power difference is a lot and when you say the Oports create a mushy feel is it similar to the feel you get when you string a poly at real low tension? not crisp but mushy...
For me it is certainly a lot closer to the 100p especially with regards to the plow through. Compared to the 100P the ripstick has more free power and plow but with less touch and feel. Serving is where you will notice the difference the most IMO. It needs a full bed of poly and a few grams of puddy in the butt cap and it the maneurability is then on par with the 100P
 
Got mine today... It took forever for them to be available in the UK and I have been eagerly waiting for months.

What an amazing racquet... phenomenal stick, surely the best I have ever played. Incredible power and spin potential, and it takes slice very well. Also the paintjob has to be seen in person to fully appreciate it, the black contrasts with the colours so well. Prince have really pulled out all the stops with this one.

Comfort was excellent, I had it strung with velocity mlt at 20kg and there was no discomfort at all. The only thing I might do is make it a bit more headlight as I am used to frames with a bit more weight in the handle. Would you recommend 2-4g of bluetack underneath the buttcap?
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
Got mine today... It took forever for them to be available in the UK and I have been eagerly waiting for months.

What an amazing racquet... phenomenal stick, surely the best I have ever played. Incredible power and spin potential, and it takes slice very well. Also the paintjob has to be seen in person to fully appreciate it, the black contrasts with the colours so well. Prince have really pulled out all the stops with this one.

Comfort was excellent, I had it strung with velocity mlt at 20kg and there was no discomfort at all. The only thing I might do is make it a bit more headlight as I am used to frames with a bit more weight in the handle. Would you recommend 2-4g of bluetack underneath the buttcap?
I have 5-6 grams on the handle near the buttcap. Mine were a little over spec also, I think on the head mostly. But with the little bit of extra weight they are perfectly whippy. Awesome frames for sure, if I wasn’t enjoying the Pro Kennex frames so much the Rip would be the main.
 

initialize

Rookie
I have 5-6 grams on the handle near the buttcap. Mine were a little over spec also, I think on the head mostly. But with the little bit of extra weight they are perfectly whippy. Awesome frames for sure, if I wasn’t enjoying the Pro Kennex frames so much the Rip would be the main.
which Pro Kennex frames do you like the most? I've never played with any
 

tim-ay

Hall of Fame
which Pro Kennex frames do you like the most? I've never played with any
I’m not the best one to ask, but the two I’m hitting are Q+5 Pro and the 7G. They are both just stellar. The Rip is also, but I think I like the 16/20 thin beams of these PK frames a bit more. The 7G is an XL... not for everyone, but so good.
 

vandre

Hall of Fame
just got back from an abbreviated demo session with the ripsticks (300 and 280). the spin serve is money with both of them! my fh took some adjusting with the 280 but the 300 was good out of the box.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
I'm still trying different strings and am going back down to 48 lbs. as my baseline tension with new strings before I bump it up. I felt these 4 3/8 grip pallets are a little smaller than Babolat (maybe Wilson too) so I got thicker replacement grips (don't like overgrips).
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
Lot of spin on serves, enough to cause people problems.
Groundstrikes are coming up and onto people so much that they can’t cope.

When you really connect with the ball you can beat people with pace alone so a few options on every shot.

I added an extra overgrip, which really helped with the balance, will need to tail weight it to be totally happy I think.
Will try a heat shrink grip first as the grip is a little small and an extra 15g will help with the balance.

For full poly and a stiff frame it is pretty comfortable.
Did not lose serve over 2 hours of play so not bad considering it is so different to a 93p
 
Lot of spin on serves, enough to cause people problems.
Groundstrikes are coming up and onto people so much that they can’t cope.

When you really connect with the ball you can beat people with pace alone so a few options on every shot.

I added an extra overgrip, which really helped with the balance, will need to tail weight it to be totally happy I think.
Will try a heat shrink grip first as the grip is a little small and an extra 15g will help with the balance.

For full poly and a stiff frame it is pretty comfortable.
Did not lose serve over 2 hours of play so not bad considering it is so different to a 93p
All my games are on clay, so looks like this will be a perfect fit. Currently playing with 100P and 100x 305.
 
That setup would be launching the ball out of the stadium for me! TourSniper @ 52lbs is a good combination of comfort, control and power for me.
I'm interested in trying that string and other poly types..I don't own a stringing machine yet so multi is more convenient...takes longer for multi to snap than for poly to go dead
 
So do most ripstick owners add some weight to the handle to make it more head light? I'm really getting used to and like the natural balance, apparently it's the same as pure drive and pure aero which are very popular racquets so it makes sense
 
So do most ripstick owners add some weight to the handle to make it more head light? I'm really getting used to and like the natural balance, apparently it's the same as pure drive and pure aero which are very popular racquets so it makes sense
If you are used to playing flat or pretty flat strokes i don't think it will make much difference, however, if you use your wrists to generate topspin then a whippier feeling racquet (more headlight) will help generate higher tip speed and help generate much more topspin...
 
I found Toroline Wasabi to be a thoroughly meh string [12/20] when I reviewed it on my 93P, but after putting in 8 hours on the Wasabi on my ripstick, I felt that the least I could do was give it a short review.

Ripstick: Toroline Wasabi Horseradish | Toroline Wasabi Ginger at 50/50:
Hours Played: 8
Is this mediocre string better when on a Ripstick? Yes, yes it is.

Total: 18/20
THWACK: 4.5
Perfectly manageable power in the Ripstick. I could have gone maybe 2 lbs higher on the mains for a tad more control, but this worked quite well
LAUNCH: 4.5 The ripstick takes a fairly mediocre biting square string and kicks it up a notch. Balls kicked like crazy, even mostly-dead ones that just belong in the serve basket.
SHAPE: 5 I was able to take full rips and still control the ball, whether I was hitting flat or trying for sharp angles.
COMFORT: 4 Plush, comfortable and full of pizazz. A superbly fun stick to use for hitting as well as match play. However, the feedback is not as pronounced as on racquets that more players' stick-y.

Thoughts:
I did not like Wasabi at all in my 93p. I felt bad cutting it out before it lost tension in the Ripstick.

Ripstick: Mayami Big Spin | Mayami Magic Twist at 53/50

The bumblebee aesthetic looks great on the Ripstick. Can't wait to see how much spin this monster puts out.
Did you try it with the Mayami string yet?? review?
 

avocadoz

Professional
I love the Pure Drive but it's too stiff for my elbow. Can anyone make a comparison. How is the control of the Ripstick compare to the Pure Drive? I assume the PD is easier to swing and more manueverable?
 
Was wondering.. if people keep adding weight in the grip of the 300 to make it more tail-light, wouldnt it make a bit more sense to use the 280 as a base, which is actually exactly 1 HL (if I understand correctly), or wouldn't that matter so much? Of course only adding weight to the grip is easier than evenly across the racket if you want to up the total weight :unsure:

I really wonder how the two play out against eachother and wat the pro's and cons are..
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I love the Pure Drive but it's too stiff for my elbow. Can anyone make a comparison. How is the control of the Ripstick compare to the Pure Drive? I assume the PD is easier to swing and more manueverable?
similar. Id say a slight touch more power with the pd but more control on the ripstick. The ripstick feels more like a classic frame in the way you can slice the ball and add some touch at net, while also bombing away from the baseline.

they swing very similar. All have pretty high twistweight which makes these thicker frames a little tougher to adjust at the last second.
 

avocadoz

Professional
similar. Id say a slight touch more power with the pd but more control on the ripstick. The ripstick feels more like a classic frame in the way you can slice the ball and add some touch at net, while also bombing away from the baseline.

they swing very similar. All have pretty high twistweight which makes these thicker frames a little tougher to adjust at the last second.
Sounds like a winner to me, but TW gave the Pure Drive a much higher rating.
 

ericykchan

New User
Was wondering.. if people keep adding weight in the grip of the 300 to make it more tail-light, wouldnt it make a bit more sense to use the 280 as a base, which is actually exactly 1 HL (if I understand correctly), or wouldn't that matter so much? Of course only adding weight to the grip is easier than evenly across the racket if you want to up the total weight :unsure:

I really wonder how the two play out against eachother and wat the pro's and cons are..
That's what I thought and have done to my 280g, leather grip +6g, +8g lead under the grip, and +6g with overgrip. For some unknown reason the weight caused the upper hoop noticeably less stable/solid. I added 2 grams each at 2 & 10, that restored the stability and plush (or people call it muted) feeling.
 
That's what I thought and have done to my 280g, leather grip +6g, +8g lead under the grip, and +6g with overgrip. For some unknown reason the weight caused the upper hoop noticeably less stable/solid. I added 2 grams each at 2 & 10, that restored the stability and plush (or people call it muted) feeling.
So what would you estimate the headlight balance to be now you have made those adjustments? I read that it takes 5g of weight under buttcap to make a stick just one point more headlight so I didn't bother with much customization
 
That's what I thought and have done to my 280g, leather grip +6g, +8g lead under the grip, and +6g with overgrip. For some unknown reason the weight caused the upper hoop noticeably less stable/solid. I added 2 grams each at 2 & 10, that restored the stability and plush (or people call it muted) feeling.
So if I understand correctly, you added 20g at the bottom and 4g at the top?

Together with the added weight of the strings, it came back to a 50/50 1 HL? (Or was it 50/50 unstrung?)

How does it play, with a total of around 320g? And how did it affect the swingweight? :unsure:

What are your strings and tension?
 

ericykchan

New User
So what would you estimate the headlight balance to be now you have made those adjustments? I read that it takes 5g of weight under buttcap to make a stick just one point more headlight so I didn't bother with much customization
I am not sure about the calculation but just the good old 1 finger balance... in stock form the racket head so heavy I couldn't balance it (head just tile downwards so much). After adding all the weight now the head only slightly down. Adding picture is a bit difficult here so apologies if I couldn't explain it properly.
 
I am not sure about the calculation but just the good old 1 finger balance... in stock form the racket head so heavy I couldn't balance it (head just tile downwards so much). After adding all the weight now the head only slightly down. Adding picture is a bit difficult here so apologies if I couldn't explain it properly.
That's why I just bought the 300... At 4pts headlight it's already kind of average, same as pa and pd
 

ericykchan

New User
So if I understand correctly, you added 20g at the bottom and 4g at the top?

Together with the added weight of the strings, it came back to a 50/50 1 HL? (Or was it 50/50 unstrung?)

How does it play, with a total of around 320g? And how did it affect the swingweight? :unsure:

What are your strings and tension?
Yes, I added that much weight and total is around that, just weighted it again the scale shows 318g. As mentioned above, it is now about ... 60/40 balance (a bit more weight around the head).
It plays very well and stable. My friend who is a flat hitter using a lead-up (static weight 340g) Head 360+ Speed Pro strung with x-one biphase, commented that my Ripstick is as stable and solid and comfortable as his Speed Pro. We switched rackets for a couple games and I agree with what he said.
I don't have any machine to measure. Swing weight feels a bit higher than the stock 2021 VCore100 that I also own.
The Ripstick is strung with Volkl V-Square 17G @ 50lb
 
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