Prince Textreme Tour 100 (310) Thread

lima

Semi-Pro
Stability of my O3 is no different from my solid TT310 (and as a rule, the O3 versions of Prince racquets are usually around the same twistweight as their solid beam counterparts).

End of the day they're both really good frames, I just preferred the more predictable response of the O3 due to the 8 mains but could switch between the two with no issues (although I don't use mine much any more).
What do you play with?
 

t_pac

Semi-Pro
Tecnifibre TF40.

The TT310 is a great all court frame but I just prefer a tighter string pattern and smaller head size.
 
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Kurt0707

Rookie
Tried O3 in Beasts with solid version and also Tour 310. With ports the rackets swing very easy and fast, it is also very manuevarable, but I preferred the solid version for the feel and timing. TT310 is good overall racquet, especially if you play with spin.
 

Ramon

Legend
I have both the Beast 98 O3 and the solid beam Beast 98. Personally, I like the solid beam version because I think the feel and control are better.

There are still some good arguments for the O3 version: the spin is better, and it has better response on off-center hits. However, despite the fact that I like to play with a lot of spin and I hit off-center too often, I still prefer the solid beam version because I'm more confident that I can place the ball where I want it, and compared to most solid beam racquets the spin and off-center response are still very good. I heard reviewers comment that O3 racquets are easier on the arm. That's true, and I have a sensitive elbow, but both version of the Beast are easy enough on my arm that it doesn't matter to me which one I use.

The final nail in the coffin for the O3 version is the stringing. I string my own racquets, and I can tell you that the Beast 98 O3 is dreaded by anyone who strings racquets. Not only do you need to employ special techniques for the O-ports, but on top of that you have to deal with tie-off holes that are too small and holes that are difficult to get through because they are blocked by other strings. If you don't string your own racquets, you might think this doesn't apply to you, but it does apply to whoever strings your racquet, and if he ends up taking shortcuts or gets inconsistent tension, it can affect your game.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
I have both the Beast 98 O3 and the solid beam Beast 98. Personally, I like the solid beam version because I think the feel and control are better.

There are still some good arguments for the O3 version: the spin is better, and it has better response on off-center hits. Not only do you need to employ special techniques for the O-ports, but on top of that you have to deal with tie-off holes that are too small and holes that are difficult to get through because they are blocked by other strings. If you don't string your own racquets, you might think this doesn't apply to you, but it does apply to whoever strings your racquet, and if he ends up taking shortcuts or gets inconsistent tension, it can affect your game.
On that one, best to do the "50-50" method and just start the crosses in the middle, working outwards.

Right about the small tie-off holes! Gotta razor those ends thin, no doubt.

Personally thought the solid beam 98B was ordinary, but the o3 was an absolute joy to play. (Maneuvers like a mid but forgiving and powerful like a 100)
 

Ramon

Legend
On that one, best to do the "50-50" method and just start the crosses in the middle, working outwards.

Right about the small tie-off holes! Gotta razor those ends thin, no doubt.

Personally thought the solid beam 98B was ordinary, but the o3 was an absolute joy to play. (Maneuvers like a mid but forgiving and powerful like a 100)
I would agree that the Beast 98 is kind of ordinary. For me that means it has that old familiar feel that I've grown accustomed to. It's easy to switch from a lot of popular frames to the Beast 98. The O3 version is different for better or worse. It will appeal to some but not others. I guess that means the OP is going to be even more confused now! :)
 
I have been VERY pleased with this racquet, coming from the Yonex SV100 and SV98.
I also demod a LOT of frames before settling on this one. I started with full poly (Hyper G) at about 48lbs and it was too springy. It’s about perfect with Weiss Canon Ultra Cable 17 (or Fire Stroke 17) at 55/53. Comfortable, nice control, great topspin (better than my SV’s) and enough power for sure. Less than my SV100 (which I wanted). Power is comparable to the PS97 but more comfortable, better feel.
I hit a OHBH and it has been great for that as well.
I find it easier to hit deeper topspin shots with control as well as the ability to flatten out balls when I want to put a point away. Excellent frame. The balance could feel a little nicer but I dont have much to complain about here. I loved the balance of the PP with the solid beam (not box beam) and the uber thin beam profile, but my demo was strung too tight and it had no power. I may give that a hit again sometime with some different string setups to see what I think again, but for now I am really happy with this frame. Highly recommended-do it all type of frame.
 

soulfree914

Rookie
On that one, best to do the "50-50" method and just start the crosses in the middle, working outwards.

Right about the small tie-off holes! Gotta razor those ends thin, no doubt.

Personally thought the solid beam 98B was ordinary, but the o3 was an absolute joy to play. (Maneuvers like a mid but forgiving and powerful like a 100)
I picked up a Beast 98 O3 and I like it more than TT310, despite the fact that I paid less than half of what I paid for the TT310.
With Beast 98 03, topspins come effortlessly and put-away volleys are easier, plus I feel like I'm unlocking certain aspects of my game with the added maneuverability, power, and tighter cross string pattern. It did seem to require a low-powered poly for me to tame the power coming from the racquet and still be able to get a few touch volleys, but the racquet was comfortable enough to use a stiffer poly. I'm in a 4.0 league and surprisingly, I didn't feel a significant drop-off in stability against big hitters either. I've heard the new Beast model is released in Japan; I'm hoping they'll make 98-sized ones.

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Spiny

New User
After playing with the PP 100P, I get the feeling with the RA of 65 and even with the Twaron the 310 tour is going to be quite stiff. What turns me off with the modern racquets is the upper portion of the hoop plays very stiff and has no forgiveness. I grew up playing in the early 90’s and the racquets made then we’re alot more forgiving as well as more arm friendly. I grew up playing with the head prestige classic, pro staff classic and the Volkl C10 Pro. Those were the best racquets made IMO.

I am currently playing with PK 7G which is good racquet, however I find a big power and stability drop with balls hit towards the upper hoop of the frame. I have some shoulder issues which has made a little difficult finding another racquet.

The question is whether the 310 tour will be jarring to my arm when hit a bill way off center? I found the PP 100P to be jarring on my arm after playing with it for a few months. I also strung it around 50 lbs with a Synthetic string. One TW tester Jason stated that balls hit near the upper hoop were more jarring than usual! Maybe the 310 tour would agree with my arm with a multi?? I don’t like demos because they usually have poly string and the grip is too small. I don’t play with poly anymore and need a 1/2 or 5/8 grip to good flavor for a racquet strung with Synthetic string. Anyone have any other thoughts?
 

Brady12

New User
Been using the TT310 for about a month. The feel is a bit too muted for me--i had hard time predicting where my shot would go, but i'm adjusting to it now. Mine came about 4 grams under spec and I wish it had a bit more plow through. Great blend of spin, control and power.
 

Binatang

Rookie
Been using the TT310 for about a month. The feel is a bit too muted for me--i had hard time predicting where my shot would go, but i'm adjusting to it now. Mine came about 4 grams under spec and I wish it had a bit more plow through. Great blend of spin, control and power.
I have 2 TT290 weighted up to TT310 spec. Both came in on spec with just half gram difference. You can adjust it by adding weight. I added 1g each at 10 & 2 & half g each at 6 & 9.

What strings are you using? The twaron's plushness can make the stick feel overly muted depending on the strings you are using. Full bed of known muted strings like MSV Hex soft or Kirschbaum PL Evo will make it feel overly damped.
 

Brady12

New User
I have 2 TT290 weighted up to TT310 spec. Both came in on spec with just half gram difference. You can adjust it by adding weight. I added 1g each at 10 & 2 & half g each at 6 & 9.

What strings are you using? The twaron's plushness can make the stick feel overly muted depending on the strings you are using. Full bed of known muted strings like MSV Hex soft or Kirschbaum PL Evo will make it feel overly damped.
I’m using Volkl cyclone black strung at 50. Any better recommendations for string?
 

Binatang

Rookie
I’m using Volkl cyclone black strung at 50. Any better recommendations for string?
Better is such a relative & personal taste thing but for something crisper you can try the following:
Kirschbaum Proline II
Solinco Hyper-G
Yonex Poly Tour Strike
 

WaqasMajeed

New User
I’m using Volkl cyclone black strung at 50. Any better recommendations for string?
I have tried 3 string setups on my pair of TT100 310:

-Velocity 16g @54 lbs: too powerful. Didn’t like it.

-RIP control 17g @54 lbs: decent control. Strings move a LOT. Need to adjust their position after every point. Poor snap back

-Hyper g 17g @52 lbs: Absolutely love it. Comfortable, excellent control and spin. Allows me to take full swing at the ball with confidence.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
These days I string full poly quite low at 44lbs in my Prince Equipe 95 LB; I still add about 4lbs for poly/multi - so 48lbs - and add 8lbs+ for even low powered full multi such as Rip Control or Velocity - so say 52lbs. Like many others, I used to string multis and syn guts higher in the same head size racquets, say 58 - 60 lbs back in the 90s/Noughties, but I was younger and hit the ball harder and that was also the prevailing wisdom. In your 100" head if you like Hyper G at 52lbs and RIP Control was okay at 54lbs but strings were moving too much I'd probably try 58lbs for Velocity, 56lbs for RIP Control and go up from there. It can be hard to adapt/revert to multis when you get used to poly launch angles and spin levels.
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
I’m using Volkl cyclone black strung at 50. Any better recommendations for string?
I too like Cyclone 16 g in the mains at 52 and I have Gosen OGSM 16 g at 54 in the cross and it makes it much more comfortable and improves the ball pocketing feel
 

ccmtennis

Rookie
I picked up a Beast 98 O3 and I like it more than TT310, despite the fact that I paid less than half of what I paid for the TT310.
With Beast 98 03, topspins come effortlessly and put-away volleys are easier, plus I feel like I'm unlocking certain aspects of my game with the added maneuverability, power, and tighter cross string pattern. It did seem to require a low-powered poly for me to tame the power coming from the racquet and still be able to get a few touch volleys, but the racquet was comfortable enough to use a stiffer poly. I'm in a 4.0 league and surprisingly, I didn't feel a significant drop-off in stability against big hitters either. I've heard the new Beast model is released in Japan; I'm hoping they'll make 98-sized ones.

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Could you share your string set up with the O3 beast 98? How would you compare the power level between the TXT 310. According to prince and their own power level it seems quite a bit different or is it not that noticeable to you?
 

soulfree914

Rookie
Could you share your string set up with the O3 beast 98? How would you compare the power level between the TXT 310. According to prince and their own power level it seems quite a bit different or is it not that noticeable to you?
I have used full-bed polys such as pro line X, RS lyon, and ice code (all 1.25mm; all 52 lbs). I liked all of them. The power level is O3 Beast 98 > TT310 by a noticeable margin. The stiffness level of 69 comes into play to give you a bit more pop, whereas I think the TT310 has a better balance between power and control.

I still use TT310 for singles as it gives me more stability and control (and slightly more feel) than the o3Beast98. But when it comes to playing fast-paced doubles matches with lots of reaction volleys and more space to hit into, I love using the O3 Beast98.

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ccmtennis

Rookie
I have used full-bed polys such as pro line X, RS lyon, and ice code (all 1.25mm; all 52 lbs). I liked all of them. The power level is O3 Beast 98 > TT310 by a noticeable margin. The stiffness level of 69 comes into play to give you a bit more pop, whereas I think the TT310 has a better balance between power and control.

I still use TT310 for singles as it gives me more stability and control (and slightly more feel) than the o3Beast98. But when it comes to playing fast-paced doubles matches with lots of reaction volleys and more space to hit into, I love using the O3 Beast98.

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Sounds great , I’m goin to try it myself and I’ll give some feedback. I have one ordered with cyclone at 54. Did you try the regular beast 98 as well and if so what didn’t you like about that ?
 

soulfree914

Rookie
Sounds great , I’m goin to try it myself and I’ll give some feedback. I have one ordered with cyclone at 54. Did you try the regular beast 98 as well and if so what didn’t you like about that ?
I tried the solid-beam Beast98. It was ok but I didn't find a reason to buy it over a TT310 as the TT310 to me felt better in every aspect. The O3 was a bit different as it provided more spin and playability at the price of less stability.

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A_Instead

Legend
Any more feedback from those using the 290 version..?
Highly interested in a comparison to the 310...which I own and now thinking about the 290..
 

Tar Heel Tennis

Professional
just received my TT100 310 today. have strung it with Hyper-G 20 at 48. looking forward to hitting with it tonight. racket was 309g unstrung and 31.0 headlight. my normal frame is 357g and 30.5 headlight. will probably do some customizing after hitting with it.

TT 100 310
 
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WestboroChe

Hall of Fame
just received my TT100 310 today. have strung it with Hyper-G 20 at 48. looking forward to hitting with it tonight. racket was 309g unstrung and 31.0 headlight. my normal frame is 357g and 30.5 headlight. will probably do some customizing after hitting with it.

TT 100 310
Don’t be surprised if you find it doesn’t need to be modified in anyway. It’s specs are IMHO about as perfect as you can get for a modern players frame.
 
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Tar Heel Tennis

Professional
i played a competitive 4.5 doubles match tonight. with no customization other than an overgrip i found the racket to be fairly light during our warmup. once we started the match, i quickly found that the stock frame is lacking in plowthrough and substance. the one place where the stock racket shined was with my serve. i only served one game with the Prince and managed three aces. i was getting good pace when i wasn't trying to return a heavy ball but the racket needs a more solid 'backbone' when hitting with these guys. i only managed three games with the Prince before i switched to my normal Wilson BLX PS 100 which is customized to 12.6 oz and 31" HL. I will add tungsten putty in the butt and lead tape at 3, 9 and 12 in the hoop to get the racket to my normal spec. i look forward to hitting with the heavier version as i think i will enjoy it as much or more so than my Wilson's - which i love.
 

WestboroChe

Hall of Fame
i played a competitive 4.5 doubles match tonight. with no customization other than an overgrip i found the racket to be fairly light during our warmup. once we started the match, i quickly found that the stock frame is lacking in plowthrough and substance. the one place where the stock racket shined was with my serve. i only served one game with the Prince and managed three aces. i was getting good pace when i wasn't trying to return a heavy ball but the racket needs a more solid 'backbone' when hitting with these guys. i only managed three games with the Prince before i switched to my normal Wilson BLX PS 100 which is customized to 12.6 oz and 31" HL. I will add tungsten putty in the butt and lead tape at 3, 9 and 12 in the hoop to get the racket to my normal spec. i look forward to hitting with the heavier version as i think i will enjoy it as much or more so than my Wilson's - which i love.
Sounds like a leather grip would help.
 

Dishiki

Rookie
Played with a Volkl PB mid 10 for the past 8 years before switching to a Technifibre TF40 315. Groundstrokes were excellent but was really struggling with my serve. Demoed a TT 100 (310) and love it. I have so much more pop on my serve, slice backhands were better, and volleys were better. Groundies were a tad worse (a bit less control), but I play primarily doubles, and if I am sitting back I am dead anyway. Snagged one off of ****, and can't wait to string it up and take it for a spin.
 

Lavs

Hall of Fame
I am curious about comparison Tour 100 310 (2019) with Tour 100 290 (2019) and Tour 100T (2015, Orange one).
All three have same swingweight - 285SW unstrung. But new models have noticeably higher strung SW (224, 226) versus old model - 217
I demoed Textreme Tout 100T (Orange) with leather grip on and it was fine but I felt it lack some plow. How about new models? Do you feel that plowthrough is there?
Thanks
 

lefty10spro

Semi-Pro
I am curious about comparison Tour 100 310 (2019) with Tour 100 290 (2019) and Tour 100T (2015, Orange one).
All three have same swingweight - 285SW unstrung. But new models have noticeably higher strung SW (224, 226) versus old model - 217
I demoed Textreme Tout 100T (Orange) with leather grip on and it was fine but I felt it lack some plow. How about new models? Do you feel that plowthrough is there?
Thanks
Go with the 310. The hype is real. The old 100T and the new 290 do not stand up to a heavy ball and the customization is (let's be honest) a PITA. The 310 does not budge against the heaviest of balls and is quick thru the air. Not too stiff, not too flexy, just the right pop and spin. A real goldilocks stick!!
 

25-TENNIS

Semi-Pro
How's the control? High power + high launch angle usually not a great combo for control (ie. Aeros).
I haven't played that much with the TT310, since I didn't like it from the beginning and the other demo's (Ezone 98 and Pro Staff 97) played better. But when I played with the TT310, almost every ball went out and I just couldn't fully swing with this racket. I eventually bought the Vcore Pro 100 (300g), which I think is a lower-powered TT310 with better feel and way more control. Compared to the Blade, it has similar control and power, but it's much easier to hit spinny shots with the Vcore Pro.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I tried the TT310 alongside the new Phantom 100X (305) and Phantom O3 100. The TT310 was my favorite of the bunch. I liked my first-gen Phantom Pro 100 with a leather grip and a bit of lead more than either of the new Phantoms. Phantoms need extra weight to be useful. The TT310 is very nice in stock form. The swing weight is lighter than most of my racquets so my timing was a little off sometimes, but overall I still played well with it and required very little adjustment. It’s just easy to use for such good all-around performance. My modded PP100 had a bit more power and stability and better feel, but was notably more effort to use.
 

soulfree914

Rookie
How's the control? High power + high launch angle usually not a great combo for control (ie. Aeros).
I've switched from a TT310 to a Blade v7 16x19. I think the standout feature of TT310 is spin and comfort, along with a large sweetspot. The blade offers more control and a flexier feel. I feel like it was easier to play with the TT310, but I like the extra control that I get with the Blade, and even though the TT310 offers more power, the people that I play with tell me that I hit a heavier ball with the blade. I'm going to continue to play with the blade unless a 98-sized Textreme Tour comes out.

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AA7

Hall of Fame
I'm going to continue to play with the blade unless a 98-sized Textreme Tour comes out.
This. 98" TT 16x20 with 8 mains in the throat would be such a solid stick! Even 16x19 but 8 mains in the throat... i would be all over it. No need to change anything else.. that would take control up a few and boom!
 

pow

Hall of Fame
This. 98" TT 16x20 with 8 mains in the throat would be such a solid stick! Even 16x19 but 8 mains in the throat... i would be all over it. No need to change anything else.. that would take control up a few and boom!
Besides the Textreme Tour part, you described the specs of a Beast 98. The main differences lie in the beam shape and width. Have a had a chance to try the Beast 98 solid beam?
 
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