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Well yeah, thinner beam, less power and a lower RA with no Twaron = Phantom
this is the notable quotable!
Well yeah, thinner beam, less power and a lower RA with no Twaron = Phantom
Having now played with TT100 modified to 337 gr and 325 SW, strung at 53lbs with 16g multi. Generally agree with the comments here; good in many things, especially compared to TT100P, and if I had choose a main strength, would say serves and top-spin forehands. My groundstrokes were noticeable more spinny and deeper into court. I would prefer it over TT100p if I wanted more spin and despite more open pattern, it had more control than TT100p and also more comfortable and plush. Actually looking at the string pattern, it is more open TT100p, and not quite similar actually.
However, I am a quite flat player with OHBH, so my flat shots and slices were not very effective, and groundstrokes would fly if I didn't put spin. Backhand slices were not as effective as a more closed 18x20 pattern.
I would be curious to know how other flat / OHBH players feel about this and what strings/customization they have used...
thank you
Did you add lead tape at 12? Mine has a leather grip + OG and is already sitting at 338g, but SW measured on an RDC machine is only 315
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I would prefer it over TT100p if I wanted more spin and despite more open pattern, it had more control than TT100p and also more comfortable and plush. Actually looking at the string pattern, it is more open TT100p, and not quite similar actually.
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If the TT100p was an 8 in the mains 16x20 it would play much better! As it is now it's boardy outside the SS and not very spin friendly.
For the 310, maybe do a poly syn gut hybrid to lower the launch angle?
Feel like some of the stiffer Prince ports might be right up your alley. (Speedport black or beast o3 98)I agree about the TT100p, also have made it more control oriented...
Thx for the string tip, I try to avoid polys but may give it a try.. also stringing crosses higher than mains supposedly reduces launch angle.. I will keep this for clay season anyways.
I have other very good rackets that are comfy, more control and precise as well as ok in power, but I really like prince brand (my childhood frames) however havent yet found "this is the one" yet.
Interesting observation, Max. I've been playing with the Phantom Pro 100P for a while now and worried that the thicker beam and higher power would throw my game off. I'm not finding that to be the case, at least not yet. I'm able to control the ball well and I'm not sending any shots into the fence. The only time I do that is when I muscle the ball, and that's going to happen regardless of the racquet I'm using.
I played again with the TT310 tonight. The easy power and spin on serves was greatly appreciated. I also hit some devastating drop shots and volleys, although there isn't as much feel as I would like.
I'm curious: what level player are you, and what kind of player?
fwiw, I'm about 4.5 and really all-court; have good serve and OHBH, and touch matters to me.
I'm a 3.5 who also likes to play all-court. I tend to come to the net pretty often. Touch matters to me too, and you're definitely going to have better touch on the Phantoms. But, my volleys and drop shots are quite nice with the TT310, and the benefits on other shots (overheads, serve, forehand) are significant enough to outweigh the decrease in touch.
I've also noticed that I can really knife the backhand slice with the TT310. For some reason, I never could dial that in with the PP100P. That was a problem because I've transitioned to slicing 75% of my backhands.
I second this.. at least for android tennistension is very accurate.. fantastic appRacquetTune is a pretty inaccurate app, it doesn't work on android. It only works on iPhone.
TennisTension is a much more accurate application compared to RacquetTune for measirung string tension. I just put a new set of strings on the racket, tension at 25kg. TennisTension is showing 24.5kg, RacquetTune is showing 18kg. I've tried a few rackets so far.
I'm not sure if the RacquetTune is relevant to the other options it offers.
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Yeah.. agreed. home measurement is crap..SW measurement without an RDC or Head machine is crap. My TT310 came to 326 with the SW tool app and 332 with a stopwatch. When I eventually found an RDC and measured it properly, I got 315, which is right where it should be.
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Really solid, soft/comfortable and control oriented racquets came onto market over the last month or so. Blade 18x20, head gravity pro or tour (though blade is superior in control), tf40 and yonex HD.. these are all racquets that are control oriented..you have to generate your own power... i have tried blade and gravity.. blade is a different level in control dept.. gravity will have more power.. and bigger sweetspot (though blade had a very generous one also)... blade launch angle will be noticeably lower... i cant speak to feel as its very subjective... blade has this shotgun sound when you hit the sweetspot thats second to none.. just the sound makes your opponent think you hit a super heavy ball i think heheheinteresting. I'm likining the Phantom 93 for my OHBH; a 100 squinch is too hard to do well with. . . or at least I haven't spent enough time working with this size.
I have shoulder and elbow pain. I think I'll buy Phantom Pro 100 alsoI am really bummed/frustrated to report the following.
Over the past week, I've noticed some very mild twinges in my shoulder and wrist after using the TT310. I chalked this up to getting used to the new racquet and didn't think much else of it. After all, I felt good after playing and didn't experience any pain.
On Sunday, I hit with someone for an hour and played two sets of doubles and a set of singles. Tonight, I played some doubles with lower-level players at the town park. I wasn't trying to kill the ball and was hitting smooth strokes. And now...my elbow is on fire. It's the outside of my elbow, too, which I have NEVER had a problem with. I occasionally get very mild soreness on the median elbow which goes away after a couple of days, but never pain in the dreaded "TE zone."
I'm absolutely terrified of tennis elbow, which means I am going to stop using this racquet immediately. I may get a Phantom Pro 100 16x18 because, at this point, I don't trust anything with an RA over 60.
Sigh. This really sucks.
I am really bummed/frustrated to report the following.
Over the past week, I've noticed some very mild twinges in my shoulder and wrist after using the TT310. I chalked this up to getting used to the new racquet and didn't think much else of it. After all, I felt good after playing and didn't experience any pain.
On Sunday, I hit with someone for an hour and played two sets of doubles and a set of singles. Tonight, I played some doubles with lower-level players at the town park. I wasn't trying to kill the ball and was hitting smooth strokes. And now...my elbow is on fire. It's the outside of my elbow, too, which I have NEVER had a problem with. I occasionally get very mild soreness on the median elbow which goes away after a couple of days, but never pain in the dreaded "TE zone."
I'm absolutely terrified of tennis elbow, which means I am going to stop using this racquet immediately. I may get a Phantom Pro 100 16x18 because, at this point, I don't trust anything with an RA over 60.
Sigh. This really sucks.
I got myself a pair of TT100 310 very recently, and have hit for about 3 hours with them. The TT310s are ~330 gms, 7 pts HL with overgrip and dampener. I measured SW with the TW Tool - roughly 330+ SW (I have no idea if I got it right).
A bit of background before I talk about my impressions. My current racquets are a pair of Head Graphene Instinct MPs, weighted to about 335 gms, 330 SW, 6 pts HL. I have pretty solid groundstrokes, flatter backhand than my forehand. Decent at the net most times, and I have a very spin-based serve - not too much pace, but I can move it around really well. I am not sure what my level of play would be rated at here, but I played Nationals in my country when I was younger (if that helps).
I string my Instincts with YTex Quadro Twist at 55-57lbs. The TT310s are strung with the same string at 53 lbs for now.
First impressions -
1. I feel like I can hit much smaller targets with the TT310. Aggressive tennis feels a lot easier to me, as a result of the this.
2. Not as much free power as my Instincts. I can feel the difference mostly only when defending deep or at full stretch.
3. I am serving marginally poorer (I think) with the TT310s. The kick serves aren't kicking as much, but I feel I can work that out over time. Pace seems slightly lower at times, mostly the same (hitting partner's perception)
4. My backhand is completely off at times, I can't figure out why. I am hoping time, drills and tinkering will solve this.
5. Volleys - nice and easy to absorb pace and put balls away as long as I am attacking. I've been struggling with defensive volleys so far. Again, time and drills!
6. Backhand slices have been nice and deep and sharp, mostly. I generally slice well, but I am not completely confident with this shot yet.
6. TT310 isn't as quick through the air as my Instincts, at almost similar specs. The TT310 became a real handful when I got tired.
I've now added a gram of lead tape under the trapdoor - let's see if this makes the racquet a little whippier. (Any suggestions in this regard are very welcome.)
Overall, I am generally very happy with the TT310 so far. Its slightly more difficult to play with than my weighted Instincts - to me, that just means I was getting lazier and I should start working on my conditioning more.
SW measurement without an RDC or Head machine is crap. My TT310 came to 326 with the SW tool app and 332 with a stopwatch. When I eventually found an RDC and measured it properly, I got 315, which is right where it should be.
Have you tried new pure aero ? I have both, TT310 and new PA. It is much easier to play with PA. TT310 has better feel, but I feel an elbow after playing for a long time. Serving is much better/easier with PA. If you have a chance try a Gravity Pro/Tour.Any comparison to Pure Areo? I have used that racket for the last several years. I want to switch cause I want more control and I also been experiencing some issues with my left wrist. In the meanwhile I have been playing with the clash 100 tour and experience no pain at all. However the control is even less than the areo.
I'm willing to sacrifice easy free power(not much since I'm not so strong myself) for something that offers more control and is a lot more arm friendly than the pure areo.
Would this stick be a good fit. I can't demo this in my region BTW.
Any comparison to Pure Areo? I have used that racket for the last several years. I want to switch cause I want more control and I also been experiencing some issues with my left wrist. In the meanwhile I have been playing with the clash 100 tour and experience no pain at all. However the control is even less than the areo.
I'm willing to sacrifice easy free power(not much since I'm not so strong myself) for something that offers more control and is a lot more arm friendly than the pure areo.
Would this stick be a good fit. I can't demo this in my region BTW.
I played with the new areo, but didn't find much difference and still get a soar wrist after playing more than an hour or so. I don't mind compensating power for something that is as arm friendly (for me) as the clash 100 tour but with more control.Plays nothing like a Pure Aero, and from your description it’s not what you need. It plays more like a control oriented frame, much less power and spin. I myself am looking for an option to the Pure Aero with a flexier/more buttery feel but I don’t think that really exists. The ball the PA hits is quite unique.
Also, be sure to try the 2019 Pure Aero. It’s really not that bad. Didn’t think the TT310 offered more comfort than it for instance..
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I played with the new areo, but didn't find much difference and still get a soar wrist after playing more than an hour or so. I don't mind compensating power for something that is as arm friendly (for me) as the clash 100 tour but with more control.
I did 2 grams of LT at 12 and then 4 grams of putty in the handle. The stock twist weight is already very solid.Redemoed the 310 last night and possibly each time I use it I tell myself this is the best serving ive ever had with a racquet. My second serves are almost as big as first with good spin. Anyone adding weight here to slightly stabilize on groundstrokes a little? Just a tad whippy for me.
Just buy a couple of the non-countervail Pro Staff's that are on sale right now.Redemoed the 310 last night and possibly each time I use it I tell myself this is the best serving ive ever had with a racquet. My second serves are almost as big as first with good spin. Anyone adding weight here to slightly stabilize on groundstrokes a little? Just a tad whippy for me.
Just a terminalogy but this stick is plenty stable playing against heavy hitters.. its twistweight is really high. If you want less whippy then you probably want to make it higher swingweight.. maybe 11 and 1 o'clock and some in the handle if you want to keep the balance.. eric from TW weighted his up for higher sw and he said he loves it.. i asked him in questions section and he explained his customization..Redemoed the 310 last night and possibly each time I use it I tell myself this is the best serving ive ever had with a racquet. My second serves are almost as big as first with good spin. Anyone adding weight here to slightly stabilize on groundstrokes a little? Just a tad whippy for me.
Yes. That makes sense.. it has some 15.2 twistweight.. thats highMine have a couple of grams at 10/2. Can't say I ever had a problem with stability in stock form, but the extra lead just gives a little more plow for me.
I have played with Prince Exo3 Tour Team 100. The most comfortable racquet I have played with. Pure butter.Have you played ported Princes before? The O3 version is better than the solid beam, but he feel is quite different, seems to split opinion somewhat.
I have played with Prince Exo3 Tour Team 100. The most comfortable racquet I have played with. Pure butter.
Why do you think it is better?
Haha. You cant go wrong with this stick.. get it! Tt100 310!!Guys, you are not helping me