Prince Textreme Tour 100P (310g, 18x20)

[n8dawg6]

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From your pic I guess you are using the Ltd edition?
So do I
Great stick and PJ IMO
Black and colourful a bit like Textremes!

curious, do yall add any weight to it? that black PJ was much better than the regular graphene PJ. i think the XT PJ had em both beat, though

 

[Roland G]

Who cares??? Matching string color to the frame is perfectly fine and doesn't make you "that guy"
Maybe if you came out in this outfit, it would...

A Prince logo on the butt would really make that outfit [emoji1]

 

[BillKid]

curious, do yall add any weight to it? that black PJ was much better than the regular graphene PJ. i think the XT PJ had em both beat, though

Yes
A little bit of lead tape at 3 and 9 (2g on each side) and inside handle (6g)
Weight is now 310g and balance 31cm
Like it a lot and that's why I do not rush on the 100p although it is very attractive

 

[n8dawg6]

Yes
A little bit of lead tape at 3 and 9 (2g on each side) and inside handle (6g)
Weight is now 310g and balance 31cm
Like it a lot and that's why I do not rush on the 100p although it is very attractive

gotcha. so you're bringing it up to Rad Pro spec, but it probably feels more flexible and less destructive of tendons.

 

[BillKid]

Agree it's probably more arm friendly than the Pro version
When I bought it I was not sure how much weight I would add and it was good to have some room for customization
Given the higher SW of the GRad pro I may not have been confortable with adding weight. In addition, I think the. GRad pro feels stiffer

 

[DustinW]

curious, do yall add any weight to it? that black PJ was much better than the regular graphene PJ. i think the XT PJ had em both beat, though

Mine are pretty much stock. I have a regular PJ that is right on spec, and I added 4g at 3/9 to match the LTD which comes in just a bit heavier. I play the LTD stock.

 

[JackB1]

Hey Jack, did you hit the Dunlop F3.1 / 3.0 Tour previously? If so how does it compare to the 100P, as the specs would be close.

The Dunlop 300 Tour is my other favorite 18x20 racquet. I feel like the 100P has more power and the Dunlop has more control, but they do play and swing similarly. The Dunlop has more of a crisp feel and the Prince more dampened.

 

[JackB1]

Head Graphene Radical MP

OK. Great racquet as well. Does the Radical have more power than the 100P? From what I recall, they seem pretty close.

 

[JackB1]

Anyone considering the 100P should hit the Blade 98 18/20 too - given the 100P was intro'd to compete directly with it. I'd certainly be interested in any direct comparisons between the two (from real playing experience, not just the specs). I found both on demo to be underwhelming, but in the case of the Blade that could easily have been a QC issue. Possible for the 100P too of course, but experience suggests that Prince QC is better. Thinking i should really give both another demo as i think i'm missing something as the specs of both look good - and i've liked other textremes and the Blade 16/19 was demo i had had a lot more oomph than the 18/20. Trying these again is particularly relevant since the stick that has been in my bag the longest is the LM Radical MP which is pretty close in spec terms.

Blade and 100P are really different in terms of balance. I think the Speed Pro is a better direct comparison to the 100P than the Blade.

 

[n8dawg6]

Mine are pretty much stock. I have a regular PJ that is right on spec, and I added 4g at 3/9 to match the LTD which comes in just a bit heavier. I play the LTD stock.

I am actually grooving on the XT Rad Pro right now ... provided it has soft enough strings. It somehow is the compromise that I have been looking for. lighter and less demanding than the speed pro, heavier and more control than the speed MP or rad MP. using syn gut @ 55 lbs which is a temporary solution due to longevity. But I'm getting ample spin and a comfortable feel.

 

[Doc Hollidae]

Can anyone compare the 100p to the Speedport White Pro?

 

[sma1001]

Blade and 100P are really different in terms of balance. I think the Speed Pro is a better direct comparison to the 100P than the Blade.

Yes i think you may very well be right about the balance. Prince advertising however - and colour choice - was aimed at the Blade. Speed pro is a fair bit heavier. Maybe no direct comparison.

 

[sma1001]

I am actually grooving on the XT Rad Pro right now ... provided it has soft enough strings. It somehow is the compromise that I have been looking for. lighter and less demanding than the speed pro, heavier and more control than the speed MP or rad MP. using syn gut @ 55 lbs which is a temporary solution due to longevity. But I'm getting ample spin and a comfortable feel.

That's interesting. If the XT were (a lot) easier on the arm it could be a very good option. But having to go with syn gut would certainly limit the audience.

 

[DustinW]

OK. Great racquet as well. Does the Radical have more power than the 100P? From what I recall, they seem pretty close.

Power level is very similar. I actually felt like I was hitting serves and backhands harder with the 100P... I assume because of the extra weight.

 

[DustinW]

I am actually grooving on the XT Rad Pro right now ... provided it has soft enough strings. It somehow is the compromise that I have been looking for. lighter and less demanding than the speed pro, heavier and more control than the speed MP or rad MP. using syn gut @ 55 lbs which is a temporary solution due to longevity. But I'm getting ample spin and a comfortable feel.

I've always wanted to try the Rad Pro but just never have. I'm surprised you are getting more control with the Pro than the MP.

 

[n8dawg6]

I've always wanted to try the Rad Pro but just never have. I'm surprised you are getting more control with the Pro than the MP.

the control thing has more to do with me than the racquet. my swing is more fluid with the extra weight.

 

[n8dawg6]

That's interesting. If the XT were (a lot) easier on the arm it could be a very good option. But having to go with syn gut would certainly limit the audience.

yeah i agree. and im moving the strings around a lot on it, so not sure how long-term a solution this will be for me.

 

[counterpuncher]

The Dunlop 300 Tour is my other favorite 18x20 racquet. I feel like the 100P has more power and the Dunlop has more control, but they do play and swing similarly. The Dunlop has more of a crisp feel and the Prince more dampened.

Thanks Jack.

Were your serves as good with the 300 Tour?

 

[JackB1]

Thanks Jack.

Were your serves as good with the 300 Tour?

Hard to remember....haven't used the Dunlop in quite a while

 

[LeftyTigger]

I'm still considering the switch to the 100P. Is anyone still playing this racquet? There are 15 used one listed in the TW used section (had not seen that many for one racquet before)...are folks unhappy and returning their 100P's? If you tried it and decided against the switch, please post your dislikes (was it stability, couldn't groove a particular stroke, etc.). Much appreciated.

 

[JackB1]

I'm still considering the switch to the 100P. Is anyone still playing this racquet? There are 15 used one listed in the TW used section (had not seen that many for one racquet before)...are folks unhappy and returning their 100P's? If you tried it and decided against the switch, please post your dislikes (was it stability, couldn't groove a particular stroke, etc.). Much appreciated.

All those used racquets are due to Prince's return guarantee they were promoting.

 

[392Hemi]

All those used racquets are due to Prince's return guarantee they were promoting.

15?? By laws of supply and demand the price should hopefully be going down on those.

 

[B Cubed]

I'm tempted to go back to it. I like to keep a modern frame in my collection, and it doesn't do anything badly.

 

[pc2016]

All those used racquets are due to Prince's return guarantee they were promoting.

I returned a 100P under the 30 day guarantee. I really enjoyed the racquet and it did everything well (feel, serve, groundstrokes, returns, volley, etc.) I just didn't see a significant enough performance jump from my existing Prince Tour 100. In fact, I exchanged for a second Prince Tour 100. If I didn't have Tour 100 I would have no problem moving up to the 100P. It's a solid arm friendly racquet for both singles and doubles.

 

[jonestim]

15?? By laws of supply and demand the price should hopefully be going down on those.

They are. A month ago most of the A grade ones were $179.

I have purchased used from TW in the past and one of the biggest selling points for me was the 30 day return policy. I figured I could buy the racquet, demo it for 30 days with my string in it and then return it if I didn't like it (I only returned one). The fact that Prince is doing a 30 day guarantee on this racquet new didn't give a whole lot of motivation to buy a used one for $179. New pricing makes it a bit more worth it.

 

[392Hemi]

They are. A month ago most of the A grade ones were $179.

I have purchased used from TW in the past and one of the biggest selling points for me was the 30 day return policy. I figured I could buy the racquet, demo it for 30 days with my string in it and then return it if I didn't like it (I only returned one). The fact that Prince is doing a 30 day guarantee on this racquet new didn't give a whole lot of motivation to buy a used one for $179. New pricing makes it a bit more worth it.

I didnt mean to knock TW. The no questions asked used return policy is a great program. I was lucky enough to get my 100P on a "best offer" (you know where) for $80 and was as gently used as used can be

 

[BillKid]

I'm wondering what they do with the returned racquets.

 

[B Cubed]

Prince or TW?

 

[BillKid]

Prince or TW?

I was meaning Prince
I think the guarantee is not granted by TW?

 

[B Cubed]

Yeah, correct. So yeah, that is a good question. Do they refurb them, and sell them again. Or do they just offload them to retailers to sell, like TW. I'm assuming the latter if TW has so many at the moment. It does seem to continue in current cult status.

 

[bigburn]

Demoed today with full multi (recovering from TE). Great control for a 100 sq in, felt like I could point and hit. 18x20 setup feels a bit more open, easier to generate some spin. Felt some stiffness (Textreme?), not uncomfortable, but felt the firmness. Ground strokes felt nice, had to work a bit to generate power. Volleys I felt were very acurate and plush, good depth. Looking forward to next outing.

 

[bigburn]

Forgot to add: drop and touch shots were amazing with this stick!

 

[kimguroo]

Felt some stiffness (Textreme?)

I tested Textreme 95, Textreme 98XR-J (RDC:65), 100P and Textreme warrior 100TX (RDC:60). all Textreme rackets felt stiffer than actual RDC rating. I think stiffer feeling derives from Textreme materials. Nowadays I play more with 100TX and don't really pay attention with stiffness (In the beginning, I felt some stiffness even though unstrung RDC rating is 60 which is lowest RDC rating Textreme racket.

 

[bigburn]

Want to really jive with this racquet, yet, the Textreme firmness, produces some unfamiliar "stiffness/firmness". Control is great, along with low trajectory over net, yet, not the most forgiving stick out there. Lower-powered, but with full multi, helps it along. Comparing to Yonex DR98, the DR is much more forgiving and comfortable. Once you dial in for a few hit sessions, this is a great stick.

 

[JackB1]

Want to really jive with this racquet, yet, the Textreme firmness, produces some unfamiliar "stiffness/firmness". Control is great, along with low trajectory over net, yet, not the most forgiving stick out there. Lower-powered, but with full multi, helps it along. Comparing to Yonex DR98, the DR is much more forgiving and comfortable. Once you dial in for a few hit sessions, this is a great stick.

Sorry but I don't find the DR98 more comfortable or more forgiving than the 100P. I think they are both pretty equal on comfort, but I find the DR98 more demanding all around than the 100P.

 

[bigburn]

forgiving than the 100P. I think they are both pretty equal on comfort, but I find the DR98 more demanding all around than the 100P.

Jack, I can agree with your more demanding aspect on the DR98, since it feels like it's a bit more work. Yonex had dialed in the beauty of making a crisp racquet equate to a unique "pillow" feel, while retaining control, low/high trajectory. Multiple choices. 100P feels "tinny" on anything outside of the sweet spot for me. Control is awesome, but DR98, for me, generates comfortable power with an easy swing. Loose grip, responds even better. I mostly play doubles, not sure what format your prefer. For dubs, the DR98 volley looms large, and was effortless compared to the Tour 100P. Felt like I had to squeeze the 100P grip to make smooth contact on volleys. 100P has excellent control, and slice and dice comes with ease, but still struggled with an uncertain "firmness". I do prefer a slimmer beam, so DR98 was a bit of adjustment. Guess that's why we all demo.

Always respect your feedback/comments.

 

[Tuskarr]

Sorry but I don't find the DR98 more comfortable or more forgiving than the 100P. I think they are both pretty equal on comfort, but I find the DR98 more demanding all around than the 100P.

agreed. racquets are very similar. the biggest difference to me is the power on serve. i get more pace from the 100p. i prefer volleying with the dr98 though

 

[Vapix]

Are hyperg, tour bite soft or red ghost efficient with the 100p?
What are your string of choice?

 

[ccmtennis]

Are hyperg, tour bite soft or red ghost efficient with the 100p?
What are your string of choice?

Everyone is going to have different preferences but for me I found my go to volkl cyclone 17 g too uncomfortable. I have a long history of TE and wrist injuries so I settled with Wilson Revolve 17g . Much more comfortable, excellent spin and it maintains tension much better than tour bite soft . Also tried Prince XS but I still prefer revolve

 

[392Hemi]

Yes...Hyper G or Prince XP in green also looks great. I am searching for a nice green overgrip too, but I don't like any of the choices out there.

Solinco Wonder. Unless a local proshop has them you needto order direct. I just grabbed a dozen

 

[Jurgen78]

How is the QC with the 100P? I noticed a big difference in weight and balance between 2 rackets.

 

[JackB1]

Solinco Wonder. Unless a local proshop has them you needto order direct. I just grabbed a dozen

What is that? A google search came up with nothing. Where did u buy it from? Is it a poly? Better than HyperG?

 

[JackB1]

How is the QC with the 100P? I noticed a big difference in weight and balance between 2 rackets.

Its hit or miss with Prince. I got (2) TT95's that were 10 swingweight points apart. If the heavier one is to your liking, just mod the lighter one to match it.

 

[392Hemi]

What is that? A google search came up with nothing. Where did u buy it from? Is it a poly? Better than HyperG?

Sorry, not strings - it's a green overgrip that matches the Racquet

 

[JackB1]

Sorry, not strings - it's a green overgrip that matches the Racquet

Gotcha. Where did u buy them from? How is it? tacky or dry? thick or thin? I have been using the green Prince grips, which are pretty good. Similar to Tourna but a little nicer.

 

[392Hemi]

Gotcha. Where did u buy them from? How is it? tacky or dry? thick or thin? I have been using the green Prince grips, which are pretty good. Similar to Tourna but a little nicer.

My TT95 came with one on it. They are very tacky and .5mm thickness. They are just a bit spongy but feel great with leather underneath. I like it enough that I emailed Solinco and a rep got back to me within the day. So I ordered direct from Solinco. A buck a piece and $5 shipping for a dozen. Couldnt argue with that.

 

[JohnBPittsburgh]

I wonder what else Solinco is willing to let go

 

[jonestim]

How is the QC with the 100P? I noticed a big difference in weight and balance between 2 rackets.

I have been lucky. Just picked up a third - all at different times - and all are within 1g of each other and as equal in balance as I can measure. I haven't measured swingweight, but they feel similar.

 

[beltsman]

How did their decision to go with 18x20 work out? I thought it was a really strange move. 16x19 would be the logical choice.

 

[The_Racketeer]

How did their decision to go with 18x20 work out? I thought it was a really strange move. 16x19 would be the logical choice.

I agree. I held off demoing the 100P specifically because of the 18x20 pattern. But all the talk says that it's a more open pattern than you'd expect and is still quite spin friendly. It's now on my to-demo list. Eager to see how it compares to the PCG100. I have a feeling it's going to feel quite a bit firmer and (I hope not) tinny.