RollTrackTake
Professional
Ordered from a semi-local shop
Prince Textreme Warrior 100
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JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
I would definitely just go out and hit with it as is. Just get a chance to feel out the frame, and don't be in a rush to restring. Then, when you put your favorite string in, it will be pure bliss 
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
No different than ANY 300 gram frame.
Which part of that Jack? Graphene Rev Pro is rather different from the Aeropro Drive, but both 300. I think the question is aimed at where it might sit on the spectrum. I myself have been wondering if the Tex Warrior was a little less "extreme" than the PD, PA etc - so perhaps has a little less power and spin, and a little more control. I base that solely on the lower RA rating.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
I was referring to the instability comment. All 300 grams racquets will be a little unstable when you miss the center against a shot with good pace.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Because the racquet isn't readily available yet. I haven't seen it yet in any of my local big tennis stores.
RollTrackTake
Professional
I can give some first impressions. I left the Prince Premier Control in the racquet mainly because I was pissed after watching the Knicks blow a game to the Detroit Pistons last night. Anyways, took the Textreme Warrior out today along with the other demos. First, I practiced with a buddy mine this morning giving the Warrior most of the minutes. It swings nicely. Balance is to my liking in stock form. Hitting some groundstrokes I thought the feel of the racquet was good. Not average, not great. It was somewhat muted but still I got some feedback. Factor in that IME multi strings can be somewhat mushy in that regard. I was somewhat suprised the power wasn't as big as what I was expecting. I hit with the EXO Warrior and I thought that had more power. The Pure Drive I had with me is more powerful. But I like the power level a little lower than a PD. It leads me to believe I'll have a bit more control when I string it with a hybrid. I also put the power level higher than my Graphene Speed MP. I wasn't hitting heavy laser beams like with my Pro 1. Or killer spin like when I had a Steam 99S. But a good mix of spin and depth. After launching some flyers early on I dialed it in nicely. I did notice when just trying to rally and taking an easy swing my shots were landing anywhere from just beyond the service line to halfway between the service and baseline. I thought with a multi I'd be getting closer to the baseline without needing to dial up my own power. Using the same stroke with the Pure Drive and the ball was at the baseline or beyond it by a few inches. The DR 100 was probably a little less powerful than the Warrior. The Yonex SI 100 was a pleasant surprise!! I got the most spin with that racquet, the most consistency and for me the best feel as it felt more crisp than muted and that gave me more feedback. The Textreme Warrior won when I practiced serving after my partner bailed.
Serves weren't as pace-y as with the Pure Drive but I was a lot more consistent with it than with any of the others.
The Textreme Warrior didn't wow me in any way. So far I'd say it's a solid performer. I demo'd the TFlash 300 a couple weeks ago and that racquet left me feeling it didn't really shine at anything either but I'll say that I dig the feel of the Warrior which gives it an edge in my book. If the Pure Aero or Pure Drive feel like they have too much power for your strokes or game or if the super crisp feel of Babs isn't your thing, the Textreme Warrior (& DR 100) are forgiving racquets in the same spec range that could be what your looking for. If you're looking for either of these racquets to feel plush like a C10 Pro, older Prestige or a players stick of that ilk then stop taking crazy pills. A few comparisons. Again these sticks are stock strung with Multi's!!!
IMO
Comparisons:
Power:
Pure Drive>
Pure Aero>
Yonex SI 100>
Textreme Warrior>
Yonex DR 100>
Graphene Speed Mp
Control:
Graphene Speed MP>
DR 100>
SI 100>
Textreme Warrior>
Pure Aero>
PD
Spin:
Pure Aero>
SI 100>
Speed Mp>
Tex Warrior=
Pure Drive=
Dr 100
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
^^^ good stuff Roll....interested to hear more impressions about the TxTWarrior 100 and the DR100.
I currently have a DR 100 and have played a lot with the Si 98. The Si98 was a nice stick, but felt quite stiff to me.
Yes, definitely crisp, but you really felt it on mishits.
I am most interested in your direct comparison between the DR100 and the Warrior.
I currently have a DR 100 and have played a lot with the Si 98. The Si98 was a nice stick, but felt quite stiff to me.
Yes, definitely crisp, but you really felt it on mishits.
I am most interested in your direct comparison between the DR100 and the Warrior.
My Tex Warrior just arrived... It was suppose to be strung with Alpha Gut 2000 (white string )... Stenciled with a black P.. The string bed came all black with no stencil...But,Alpha Gut 2000 was printed on the string.... Called TW... After investigating, the rep said the string now comes in black... Confused, I called again ... The new rep said Alpha only cones in white , and asked me to send photos... We wondered whether the whole string bed was stenciled in black... No evidence of this, though... I'm not sending the racket back just to make this minor fix... As long as it is Alpha Gut 16 gauge... It is annoying, however..
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RollTrackTake
Professional
I am in my stringing dungeon (aka. basement) putting a hybrid in all these racquets....ugh. I'm using Pro's pro intense heat and a Pro's pro multi cuz I don't want to use the good stuff on demo racquets. So more to come with the comparisons. I can tell you I like the DR 100 paint scheme better than the others. The Prince Tex Tour 100T is my fav recently. Whereas Si 100 pj is terrible in my view.
The DR 100 felt more muted than the Warrior. But the difference was slight. I'd give the Warrior a slight edge in the power department. Spin, control maneuverability seemed to be about equal. But I really need more time to nitpick away at them. If I had to pick one tomorrow and play with it for the next year or two i'd flip a coin and be ok with the outcome. I'm an old school Prince fan-boy still looking desperately for a Prince to reclaim the top spot in my bag. I've said it before on TT, the last Yonex I owned was the RQ-380 (Monica Seles endorsed). I saved up a months worth of summer work pay to for that thing. I hated it so much I smashed it in two after a month playing with it and went back to my Prince Tri Comp. I've haven't seriously considered a Yonex since.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
^^^^^
Roll...are u playing the 100T stock? I tried it today and I felt super light in stock form. It's really screaming for some lead tape IMO. The DR100 is fine stock for me, but not the 100T. But I prefer the 100P right now to those other 2. It just feels so solid and I love the way the ball feels coming off that stringbed.
Roll...are u playing the 100T stock? I tried it today and I felt super light in stock form. It's really screaming for some lead tape IMO. The DR100 is fine stock for me, but not the 100T. But I prefer the 100P right now to those other 2. It just feels so solid and I love the way the ball feels coming off that stringbed.
RollTrackTake
Professional
I'm not playing the 100T. I tried it out last summer. Tried several different lead tape configurations before I gave up. I really liked the feel, spin and finesse of that racquet. I had some sort of hybrid in it. Maybe a multi would have performed better for me?? I'm not sure if I ever nailed the weight, balance & swing weight. I figure me out with the 100T that I don't have a lot of patience to make serious mods to tennis racquets. I'll add a gram or two, but I'm trying to stay away from having to add 10+ grams and counterbalance and such. I just want to play good tennis and not be racquet technician.
Finally had a chance to hit with it. I didn't have time to cut out the Prince Premiere Control multi that came with the demo so I played with it. Who thought it was a good idea to string a powerful racquet with a multi at mid tension? I can't for the life of me hit a single forehand in the court. Everything was sailing long and really had to force myself to put more topspin on my shots. My backhand was great and dialed in from the start but I can't hit a flat shot on the forehand side. I wonder is it because of the multi string or the open 16x18 pattern that's causing the problem? I also think the racquet was a bit unstable in stock form, so I leaded up the 10 & 2 o'clock position as well as the handle at the 7 inch mark and the racquet is now more stable, especially on volleys. I'm going to give it another chance with a low-powered poly (something like Yonex PTP) and see if that'll help dial in my forehand. I have a modern eastern forehand grip, so I tend to hit quite flat and if it's anything like the Blade 98S where I have to force myself to add topspin everytime I hit a forehand, then this racquet is not for me. Ironically, I think the 2013 APD is more powerful yet I was able to hit flat forehands all day. Is anyone else have success hitting a full swing flat shot with this racquet?
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JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
It's personal preference, but I am adding weight to the Warrior.
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Thanks for this review. I have been concerned about whether it's possible to flatten out the forehand with this stick. Any other users who can comment?
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
Decided to go with Pro Line 2 17g @ 51/50, and put a strip of lead on both sides of the grommets under the bumperguard. Counter balanced in the handle. I have been liking a little bit heavier frames lately, and I think this is going to be sweet!!! 50 degrees today, going to be a great day! Hope everyone gets a chance to get out and hit some tennis balls!! I rarely hit a flat forehand, but will try to get some in today
n8dawg6
Legend
that's where I ended up with the 100T. it needs lead, and after putting lead all over the place, taking it off, reapplying, etc i finally gave up and said it is what it is.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
I am just going to try adding 10 grams...4 at 3/9 and 6 on the handle. If that doesn't work, then I'm moving on, but I like the 100P stock, so I still have that, but I thought the 100T would give me a little more power.
n8dawg6
Legend
some ppl know what theyre doing with lead and it works for them. but ... other than making small adjustments around the hoop to add stability, ive never liked the balance i create with significant amounts of lead. id say go for it though. the 100T is a great frame, just not my favorite. i much prefer the G speed S, which is almost the same weight and isn't nearly as comfortable, so go figure.
392Hemi
Professional
Thats almost where i ended up... 3g total at 3&9 (4x3 inches) and 7g of putty in the handle, plus an OG. Static weight and balance are virtually the same as the Text Warrior 100
Oddly, I found the 100P more powerful than the 100T. I was especially lacking depth and pace on my backhand with the 100T, perhaps due to lack of mass behind my shots. With the 100P, I could blast backhand winners.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
RollTrackTake
Professional
Had a nice long pre-Super Bowl hit today. Used the Tex Warrior a lot and I too think it needs a dab of lead tape for me. Seems like it just needs a little more oomph to help it get through the ball IMO. I like the balance as is though and don't want to mess that. But I don't have an over grip on the demo stick so adding one should even things back out. Meanwhile the DR 100 is the new leader in the clubhouse. Really nice frame.
The Tex Warrior and DR 100 weigh the same... So it must be balance and other factors... I'm done adding weight, etc. My game is not that sophisticated .... If you have to add weight to the Tex Warrior, why not go with the 100p? I've only hit serves with my Tex Warrior so far... Hope to hit this week..
The 100P and the Warrior are quite different. 18x20 vs 16x18 pattern. Control vs power. Oval vs round head shape. Thinner vs thicker beam. The list goes on.
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
Yeah, it totally comes down to preference, and who you are playing with is a big influence as well. I joined a tougher league, and have been going against some very hard hitters lately. I actually think customizing is fun (crazy, I know), and once you get the hang of it, it's really easy. But, I remember the first few times I did it, and I thought it was dumb and it did nothing but make the racquet heavier and harder to swing Now, I don't think there will be a frame that comes out that i won't add weight to (especially with the trend of everything going lighter). But, you don't NEED lead to enjoy this frame. I just have become accustomed to heavier frames, and I like them that way now. Maybe it's a phase, and one day I will remove all the lead and blutack...but I don't see that happening. Now my Textremes are all around the same weight, and I love them that way (lol, even my lightning is at the same weight). It's hard to explain, but once you find what works for you, everything else just doesn't feel the same. I found what works for me by just playing and testing it out. There were no mathematical computations or formulas, I just went out and hit, and I keep coming back to basically the same specs. But, there are no perfect specs, and I urge anyone to find what works for them. Whether it's one single frame, stock. Or just adding a leather grip and an overgrip. There is no wrong answer, just go out, have fun, laugh with your friends, enjoy the game and atmosphere!
Now, I don't think there will be a frame that comes out that i won't add weight to (especially with the trend of everything going lighter). But, you don't NEED lead to enjoy this frame. I just have become accustomed to heavier frames, and I like them that way now. Maybe it's a phase, and one day I will remove all the lead and blutack...but I don't see that happening. Now my Textremes are all around the same weight, and I love them that way (lol, even my lightning is at the same weight). It's hard to explain, but once you find what works for you, everything else just doesn't feel the same. I found what works for me by just playing and testing it out. There were no mathematical computations or formulas, I just went out and hit, and I keep coming back to basically the same specs. But, there are no perfect specs, and I urge anyone to find what works for them. Whether it's one single frame, stock. Or just adding a leather grip and an overgrip. There is no wrong answer, just go out, have fun, laugh with your friends, enjoy the game and atmosphere!So I had a second session with the TT Warrior today in 40 degree weather playing two sets of doubles. It's probably not enough to form a definitive opinion but here are my thoughts. I cut out the Prince multi that came with the demo and strung it up with Yonex PTP main/Gosen OGSM cross @ 56/59 lbs. I was able to dial in the forehand a lot more this time around with good depth. My favorite shot to hit with this racquet is still the backhand. I was able to hit all out on the backhand side with good depth and fantastic cc angles. Serve is looking great with this racquet also as I was able to place the ball where I wanted, down the T and out-wide on both sides. I'm still not fully confident in taking a big swing on the forehand side. Jason mentioned in the TW review that the open pattern caused him to hit a few shots long from time to time unpredictably and I think that assessment is spot on. Despite dialing it in more and smacking some huge forehand winners, I sometimes randomly sail a forehand long near the fence in the next couple of points without even hitting that hard at all. I think this is the reason why I'm not quite confident in going all out on that wing. I don't know if it's just me, but I feel where this racquet lacks mass and stability is in the throat area. I will try adding some lead there the next time I play. The ball was zipping thru the air pretty quick despite the cold weather. I can't imagine what it'd be like when the weather gets warmer. I don't know how much tighter I can go with this racquet, but I'll probably max out at 60/63 lbs when summer gets here. I can see myself switching to this racquet if Prince made a 16x19 version as I don't notice much increased in spin potential with this 16x18 pattern but certainly made for a more erratic stringbed.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Yes I have also been favoring the DR100 as of late. Hard to find much to complain about with that one. Would like for it to feel a little more solid overall, but that's it. Haven't tried adding any lead tape to it yet. That might be worth a try?
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Yes I am not usually a fan of 16x18 racquets. Not sure why the Warrior is not a 16x19?
RollTrackTake
Professional
The demo I got feels solid & stable. More so than the Warrior, both in stock form. Of all the racquets I've demo'd this past month I'd put the DR 100 vs the Pure Aero in my final showdown.
Had an hour with one yesterday, nothing not to like really. Added 4g at 12, counterweighted it in the but cap. Was solid for a light frame, needs lead at 12 to get a bit more pace on serves. Prefer the more tapered head on the 100t. Nice frame for an intermediate, or anyone who struggles with babolat elbow. Personally would be more interested in a 100p with a 16x19 pattern and 98 head or a tapered 100 like the 100T
RollTrackTake
Professional
Did the warrior play much better for you all around with the lead on it? I firmly believe that a 16x18 version of the 100P will come out at some point this year. Not sure why Prince is waiting to release it. Maybe production schedule? Maybe just want to boost sales numbers in a certain quarter?
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
I didn't care too much for the Pure Aero. Pattern too open and they hit too loopy and spinny for me personally. Also felt really light to me. Super easy to play with though.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
I tried the 100T and 100P back to back yesterday and the 100P was noticeably more solid feeling on contact, while the 100T had a slightly "tinny" feel to it. This was with both in stock form.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
What makes you think that? I really look at the 100P as a 16x19 since the drill pattern is so open in the center. I hold it next to my DR98 (16x19) and there is zero difference in the spacing.
Sounds like you had one that is off spec. With the c330 swingweight it should feel solid through the ball - certainly the one i did, albeit it had a higher SW of about 338, which meant there was little difference between it and the tour version. both very solid, but loopy as you say. You need to commit to the shot and let the spin do its job. Sometimes easier said than done when you get tight...
RollTrackTake
Professional
Yeah, the Pure Aero with APDGT like swing weight was stable and solid. It reminds me of my Pro 1 but more forgiving and a little easier to swing around for a couple hours. I should buy 2 of these, sell everything else and call it a day. I haven't tried the 100P. Even if it's an open 18x20, Prince's track record leads me to believe a 16x18 will be forthcoming. There are players who won't even give an 18x20 a demo. I was one of them. Not to mention the picture on Prince's FB page of one of their ATP Pro's holding 16x18 racquet with a 100P/TT 95 paint job.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
Yes, I am happy with the 100P 18x20 and would probably prefer it to a 16x18 anyway. My best shot is probably my backhand slice, so I prefer a tighter pattern anyway. The 16x18 would probably hit too loopy for me personally, but your game is probably totally different from mine and if it's based around heavy topspin, the 16x18 would be better for sure.
RollTrackTake
Professional
You must have a nasty backhand slice if its your best shot! My backhand slice is mostly a defensive measure! Or to try stay neutral in a rally. And yes, semi-western grip. Heavy top spin FH and trying to put some more topspin on my 2HBH lately. I can create similar topspin using an 18x20 but 16x18's make it more effective for me. With the Steam 99S I was overcookin' it at times.
BillKid
Hall of Fame
What you say remind me a lot of my experience with the APD (2011 I think). My topspin OHBH was good but my forehand tended to sail long when hitting a full swing. I feel more confident now with my Graphene Radical mp. However I'm still looking for a frame that would provide me with a tad better feel and topspin. I have high hopes that Prince, which is my favorite brand, will make it.
I like frames strung around 335g so it felt light in my hand, I don't mind an almost even balance either so I could of added more lead to the head. The extra weight gave a more solid feel, also helped hit a heavier slice. Not sure the swingweight's as high as the figures state, but no problem generating a heavy ball. Also had no problem flattening out forehands. You don't need too much lead on these to make improvements.
Yep agree with that.
I prefer the 18x20 as well. I'm 56 and somewhat old school when it comes to playing. Mostly flat forehands and slice backhands. The 18x20 really drives the ball through the court. I also have a Tour 100 16x18 but found the ball flight too high and sitting up in my opponents court. With the 18x20 I am more accurate hitting approach shots and more consistent hitting flat serves.
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
Yep agree with that
except I like more headlight balance! TT100T, add leather grip and some lead...totally different frame.Prince recommends the new Warrior Response String for the Tex W 100.... Are their demos coming with this string? And do any of you have experience with it?Yep agree with that
I just had my first match with my new Tex W 100.... It will take time to get use to, especially since I am using Alpha Gut 2000 for the first time. I thing some of you poly players wanting to change to a multi should give this string a try... It definitely is muted and low on the power scale... Some of my shots ( normally out) were falling in, so I was confident to take bigger cuts... I will give more feedback after I play more... I'm surprised that the Tex Warrior 100 TW site still doesn't have any consumer reviews...
JohnBPittsburgh
Hall of Fame
I have only had limited court time recently 
I have Warrior Response in my Lightning 100 experiment frame. It seems to play well, but I got some string samples from Kirschbaum to try out, and put that in my Tex Warrior. IMO, most of the time string suggestions on racquets are to push their new line of strings, most of the time released around or at the same time of the frame. I usually get around to trying them, and sometimes it's a good fit. I think the Warrior Response string is going to appeal to someone who wants poly but can't handle the harshness associated with them. It's a thin poly wrapped in a PU coating (multi). It seems like it will work good in hybrids though, as it is really slippery feeling. My initial impressions of it are good, but it's in a foreign (to me) frame, so I don't want to give it a rave review just yet. If I have time, I am going to try it in my TT100T, as I know how that frame plays with a lot of different strings. I think it will be a perfect in a hybrid with Prince Tour XR, it will soften up XR, and both are very slippery. On my to do list.
I have Warrior Response in my Lightning 100 experiment frame. It seems to play well, but I got some string samples from Kirschbaum to try out, and put that in my Tex Warrior. IMO, most of the time string suggestions on racquets are to push their new line of strings, most of the time released around or at the same time of the frame. I usually get around to trying them, and sometimes it's a good fit. I think the Warrior Response string is going to appeal to someone who wants poly but can't handle the harshness associated with them. It's a thin poly wrapped in a PU coating (multi). It seems like it will work good in hybrids though, as it is really slippery feeling. My initial impressions of it are good, but it's in a foreign (to me) frame, so I don't want to give it a rave review just yet. If I have time, I am going to try it in my TT100T, as I know how that frame plays with a lot of different strings. I think it will be a perfect in a hybrid with Prince Tour XR, it will soften up XR, and both are very slippery. On my to do list.
