Prince Textreme Warrior 100

Well, I have finally had a chance to hit with all three of the Textreme Warrior 100's, the Warrior 100, 100T and 100L and have a few observations. I actually bought the Warrior 100 and tried it for a few matches and just could not find the consistency of my 100T Tour or 100P as I have noted in earlier posts. My go to racquet for the past year has been my 100T and more lately the 100P when the 100T seems too powerful in a match. Yesterday I spent two hours with the Warrior 100T and 100L and here is what I found. The Warrior 100T seems to work perfectly for my game. It seems to hit very much like the 100T but with slightly more power and for me at least, a bit more control on every shot. Even though it is lighter than the Warrior 100, the Warrior 100T has a similar weight to the 100T Tour. I found myself able to take a fast swing and generating a great enough amount of topspin to get the ball to drop just about anywhere on the court. It was amazing. This was strung with a Yonex Monopreme 130 string I wasn't familiar with and is a $4.75 syn gut so I don't think that was the reason for the performance. The 100L(lightest version) was similar but just a little too light for my taste. It did well but required a bit more concentration to put the ball where I wanted. The Warrior 100T just clicked for me where the regular(heavier) Warrior 100 had been inconsistent and would sail long from time to time(as I have heard from some other testers too). The beam on the 100T Warrior is slightly narrower than the regular Warrior but to the eye the rest looks much the same. All in all, after trying all the new Warrior 100's the T has seemed to work the best for my game( by a good margin) so if you get a chance give the Warrior 100T a demo. Might surprise you..it did me!
 
Beach said:
Well, I have finally had a chance to hit with all three of the Textreme Warrior 100's, the Warrior 100, 100T and 100L and have a few observations. I actually bought the Warrior 100 and tried it for a few matches and just could not find the consistency of my 100T Tour or 100P as I have noted in earlier posts. My go to racquet for the past year has been my 100T and more lately the 100P when the 100T seems too powerful in a match. Yesterday I spent two hours with the Warrior 100T and 100L and here is what I found. The Warrior 100T seems to work perfectly for my game. It seems to hit very much like the 100T but with slightly more power and for me at least, a bit more control on every shot. Even though it is lighter than the Warrior 100, the Warrior 100T has a similar weight to the 100T Tour. I found myself able to take a fast swing and generating a great enough amount of topspin to get the ball to drop just about anywhere on the court. It was amazing. This was strung with a Yonex Monopreme 130 string I wasn't familiar with and is a $4.75 syn gut so I don't think that was the reason for the performance. The 100L(lightest version) was similar but just a little too light for my taste. It did well but required a bit more concentration to put the ball where I wanted. The Warrior 100T just clicked for me where the regular(heavier) Warrior 100 had been inconsistent and would sail long from time to time(as I have heard from some other testers too). The beam on the 100T Warrior is slightly narrower than the regular Warrior but to the eye the rest looks much the same. All in all, after trying all the new Warrior 100's the T has seemed to work the best for my game( by a good margin) so if you get a chance give the Warrior 100T a demo. Might surprise you..it did me!
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that's interesting. im glad you like it, i just dont see myself being able to harness the power on that 100T.
 
I really wanted to like the regular Warrior 100, like I said I even purchased one before demoing(something I rarely do) but after trying three different sets of varying strings, all pretty much with the same result, it just didn't seem to work for me. Could be me, although the 100T Tour and 100P both work well for my style of play and that seems to be the same for a lot of other folks so I was left scratching my head as to why that first Warrior was so erratic. I was very pleasantly surprised to hit with the 100T Warrior though, seemed less powerful and way more predictable than the regular Warrior. Just a hunch, but I am suspecting the narrower beam helps tame it down. Beach
 
Prince actually rates the Warrior T high powered than the regular Warrior. I really don't think that 1 mm thinner beam is doing anything significant other than lowering the overall weight.
The lighter Warrior T is meant to be swung quickly and that is where the extra power comes from. If you are swinging it at a medium pace...the same as you swing the regular Warrior, then yes
it will play more controlled for you. Its also got lower swingweight and is 3 points less headlite. But don't overthink it...whatever works best for you is what's most important.
 
Jonack said:
Can any of you compare the 100p to the Tex Warrior? JohnB: have you hit with both?
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I am currently demoing both the TW100 and TT100P along with the older Prince Tour 16x18 and 18x20. Ill keep this brief and stick to just the Textremes here because I am going to do a full comparison in another thread.

I was lusting for the TW100 when it was first released and was mildly interested in the 100P. Now that i have them in hand, my interests have now reversed. I've been enjoying the TW100 but am enamored with the 100P.

The TW100 has a ton of power on tap and is very maneuverable but does not standout at anything in particular, nor does it have any dealbreaker weaknesses. Its best trait is gobs of on tap power to put away a winner. It serves above average but lacks some plowthrough. Its main weakness is a little loss of stability when on defense against a big hitter, in particular returning a heavy serve

The 100P is just awesome - a solid serve, great groundstrokes from both sides and at least as good on defense as any 11.5 racquet is supposed to be. Its a little heavier yet a little more headlight than Warrior so both are maneuverable but with a slightly different balance.

Both are capable of decent spin, but neither are spin monsters. In my hands the more stable 100P with its solid plow fosters confidence, while the extra power potential of the Warrior begs you to play more agressively

More detailed comparo review including the older tour coming to a new thread soon. Stay tuned...
 
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392Hemi said:
The TW100 has a ton of power on tap and is very maneuverable but does not standout at anything in particular, nor does it have any dealbreaker weaknesses. Its best trait is gobs of on tap power to put away a winner. It serves above average but lacks some plowthrough. Its main weakness is a little loss of stability when on defense against a big hitter, in particular returning a heavy serve

The 100P is just awesome - a solid serve, great groundstrokes from both sides and at least as good on defense as any 11.5 racquet is supposed to be. Its a little heavier yet a little more headlight than Warrior so both are maneuverable but with a slightly different balance.
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Have you added any weight yet to the TW100? I have one on the way - got a great deal and couldn't pass it up. Should be here late next week.

On my 100P I added 3g at 12 and an overgrip. Planning on getting the TW100 to a similar spec with a leather grip, overgrip and the same 3g of lead. On my 107 I added maybe 2.5g of lead at 12 - that's all I had on hand.
 
jonestim said:
Have you added any weight yet to the TW100? I have one on the way - got a great deal and couldn't pass it up. Should be here late next week.

On my 100P I added 3g at 12 and an overgrip. Planning on getting the TW100 to a similar spec with a leather grip, overgrip and the same 3g of lead. On my 107 I added maybe 2.5g of lead at 12 - that's all I had on hand.
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No I'm just demoing it for a week. i loved everything about the 107 except the huge beam. The beam on the TW is just narrow enough but Im not sure I can reel in the power. I think am leaning towards the 100P. I'm going to take the next few days to sort it out
 
392Hemi said:
No I'm just demoing it for a week. i loved everything about the 107 except the huge beam. The beam on the TW is just narrow enough but Im not sure I can reel in the power. I think am leaning towards the 100P. I'm going to take the next few days to sort it out
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I definitely prefer the 100P over the TW 100. Of all the textreme frames, the Warrior was my least favorite. Even after stringing it with poly in the 57-60 lb range, I still couldn't dial in on my groundstrokes. The combination of thicker beam and an open 16x18 pattern was just too erratic. I also didn't care for the rounder head shape. There's just something about the Warrior's head shape that causes a compromised in the throat area making it less stable. The 100P is just more solid all around. Even with the difference in string pattern, I honestly don't notice that much of a spin difference between the two (mind you, I don't hit with a lot of spin to begin with), but the difference in control is night and day.
 
100p is really nice and I've been hitting them for a few months. Strung mine is 328g, which is exactly where I like my racquets these days. I really like the bevel feel of leather, but hen I put a leather grip on it it bumped it up to 340. I have played that heavy before but wanted to get away from. It makes it really head light as well. I could also use a tad more launch angle off it, but have adjusted pretty well.

I have had the 107 for about 6 months and in certain situations the power is great, but is overkill sometimes. It is also the first racquet I have used that looking at it makes me feel like an old man. Shallow, I know....

I'm hoping that the W100 with leather and a little lead - modded to 330g, 330 sw - fits in between the two. If not, I can sell it for what I paid.
 
If it makes you feel any younger the TW107 is more like a 103" ;). I'm sure I'll be getting a 100P and am going to keep playing the Warrior 100 and see where I get with it.
 
jonestim said:
100p is really nice and I've been hitting them for a few months. Strung mine is 328g, which is exactly where I like my racquets these days. I really like the bevel feel of leather, but hen I put a leather grip on it it bumped it up to 340. I have played that heavy before but wanted to get away from. It makes it really head light as well. I could also use a tad more launch angle off it, but have adjusted pretty well.

I have had the 107 for about 6 months and in certain situations the power is great, but is overkill sometimes. It is also the first racquet I have used that looking at it makes me feel like an old man. Shallow, I know....

I'm hoping that the W100 with leather and a little lead - modded to 330g, 330 sw - fits in between the two. If not, I can sell it for what I paid.
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If it helps you to become less conscious about headsize, I rarely ever check out my opponent's racquet unless the color is so bright or obnoxious looking like the Pure Aero or the Head Extreme. Otherwise, racquet head size never catch my attention nor do I care about what my opponents use.
 
I don't care what my opponents think about it. It is more about me facing age and mortality. The only other 107 (although a T model) is in the hands of a guy 20+ years my senior. I've read too much talk tennis crap about OS racquets as well. I just need to get over it.
 
jonestim said:
Have you added any weight yet to the TW100? I have one on the way - got a great deal and couldn't pass it up. Should be here late next week.

On my 100P I added 3g at 12 and an overgrip. Planning on getting the TW100 to a similar spec with a leather grip, overgrip and the same 3g of lead. On my 107 I added maybe 2.5g of lead at 12 - that's all I had on hand.
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Why did you add lead to your 100P? Was it missing something stock for you? I have it stock and think its perfect. Were you trying to get more pop out if it or just wanted to up the swingweight or make it less headlite?
 
JackB1 said:
Why did you add lead to your 100P? Was it missing something stock for you? I have it stock and think its perfect. Were you trying to get more pop out if it or just wanted to up the swingweight or make it less headlite?
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A tad more power. I'm also using a thin string that is a couple grams lighter than a lot of folks and no dampener on this racquet. I may be playing with a similar swingweight with the lead that someone with a 16g string and dampener has with no lead.
 
I still enjoy hitting with it...and I just added silicone to it. Taking it out tomorrow (along with 4 other frames I siliconed, including the TT95, TT100T, TT100L, TX151P) I like the Warrior strung with Black Shark 17 and Max Power 17. Pro Line 2 is decent, but I think I strung it too low and it was a little launchy. 52lbs seems perfect for a low power poly for me to feel like I have control. Once I brought it up to my specs, it was like a little more powerful TT100T. Textreme + Silicone is awesome. Textreme + blutack is also fantastic. (I am not attributing the feel to the Textreme, I just meant the Textreme line). The entire Textreme line is also very easy to use IMO and forgiving (the TT95 once you lower the tension and add a little weight in the hoop...but that's again, just my opinion). The only string I haven't tried in the Warrior is synthetic Gut or a multi. I will get around to it, but with a full stroke, I think it needs a control string. (John Isner seems to be doing well with it)
 
The 100T could fit my game better, but on twu theyr rate the sweetspot of this one really smaller than the regular warrior 100, what do you think about this ? Is there a huge difference of stability between 100 and 100T?
 
The biggest difference between the 2 is the feel. The warrior is crisp and whereas the 100p is soft. The dwell and ball pocketing is very obvious on the 100p and gives you an ultra smooth ride. If you have arm issues then the 100p is like heaven. The tighter pattern makes the 100p changing direction slightly better but the warrior has a more forgiving stringbed as 18x20 patterns tend to have a dead zone towards the edges. I feel first serves go to the 100p - just a bigger and heavier ball. Second serves to the warrior but not by a huge margin. Topspin off the ground is about the same (to me anyway - but i hit a flatter ball). I favour the warrior at net. I demoed the 2 side by side for about 2-3 sessions and could not decide which one to go with as I liked both very much and would have been happy to close my eyes or flip a coin to decide. In the end i took the warrior for that extra bit of speed around the court and that extra bit of forgiveness off a more open pattern.
 
Hi,

I agree with most of what tata has said.


I do not see huge differences neither. Ok, the 100P is even more flexible. But the Warrior is not stiff at all. Feels a little more crisp, but I find it very comfortable. Also, even though pattern might indicate this, control is not much better with the 100P and spin not much better with the Warrior. The Warrior is slightly more maneuverable and also more forgiving, slice I think better with the 100P, power easier with the Warrior. I like in general more the Warrior. Actually I switched to it (coming from a Duel G 97).
But the 100P is a nice racquet. Actually, I think that the TExtreme line is very, very nice (tested or played some with several of them...)
 
The TW100 is a tweener's fantasy. It's strength is it's lack of weakness and great usability. Advanced players may not like it due to it's lowish base weight, avg plowthrough, and 16x18 string pattern. There really is nothing to bash on the TW100 since the players using it are going to be around intermediate level anyway. I really like it, and I'm waiting for another Prince sale.
 
I recently strayed from the TW100 and had picked up a new ProKennex Q+5 Pro 310, hoping for a bit more control. After 2 months, I realized I was playing with a great racquet that was just a bit too hefty for me. I am back with my TW100 and never been more happy with it.

I had gone through trying several of the Textremes, including the 100P, TT100T, TW107, and TT95, but the TW100 is the best for me
 
tata said:
The biggest difference between the 2 is the feel. The warrior is crisp and whereas the 100p is soft. The dwell and ball pocketing is very obvious on the 100p and gives you an ultra smooth ride. If you have arm issues then the 100p is like heaven. The tighter pattern makes the 100p changing direction slightly better but the warrior has a more forgiving stringbed as 18x20 patterns tend to have a dead zone towards the edges. I feel first serves go to the 100p - just a bigger and heavier ball. Second serves to the warrior but not by a huge margin. Topspin off the ground is about the same (to me anyway - but i hit a flatter ball). I favour the warrior at net. I demoed the 2 side by side for about 2-3 sessions and could not decide which one to go with as I liked both very much and would have been happy to close my eyes or flip a coin to decide. In the end i took the warrior for that extra bit of speed around the court and that extra bit of forgiveness off a more open pattern.
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Thank you tata for the very detailed answer. I beleive the TW100 is my answer for a little more power and ball speed, without loosing the confort.
 
edelp said:
Hi,

I agree with most of what tata has said.


I do not see huge differences neither. Ok, the 100P is even more flexible. But the Warrior is not stiff at all. Feels a little more crisp, but I find it very comfortable. Also, even though pattern might indicate this, control is not much better with the 100P and spin not much better with the Warrior. The Warrior is slightly more maneuverable and also more forgiving, slice I think better with the 100P, power easier with the Warrior. I like in general more the Warrior. Actually I switched to it (coming from a Duel G 97).
But the 100P is a nice racquet. Actually, I think that the TExtreme line is very, very nice (tested or played some with several of them...)
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I used the Tour G97 as well, that has being my prefered racquet profile untill now: Dunlop 300 tour, Pure Strike, Pure Control, Prince tour 100P etc. Time to look for extra power!

kingp1ng said:
The TW100 is a tweener's fantasy. It's strength is it's lack of weakness and great usability. Advanced players may not like it due to it's lowish base weight, avg plowthrough, and 16x18 string pattern. There really is nothing to bash on the TW100 since the players using it are going to be around intermediate level anyway. I really like it, and I'm waiting for another Prince sale.
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All the prince textremes have this aspect, no real weakness and not a top strike, everything little above average.

392Hemi said:
I recently strayed from the TW100 and had picked up a new ProKennex Q+5 Pro 310, hoping for a bit more control. After 2 months, I realized I was playing with a great racquet that was just a bit too hefty for me. I am back with my TW100 and never been more happy with it.

I had gone through trying several of the Textremes, including the 100P, TT100T, TW107, and TT95, but the TW100 is the best for me
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I was just using a Ki5 315 right after a bad TE and GE episode (thank to luxilon 4G!) strung with a soft multi, it is a dream racquet in terms of confort, while you are able to handle its weight.
 
62 yr old geezer here. I put all my other rackets in the attic. I am really liking PTW100. I am going to try some 19 & 18 gauge poly strung on a Neos 1000 at 52/55 in a couple of them tomorrow.
 
FV_Br said:
after 14 months with the TT100P, decided to go for a ride with the TW100. Let's see what happens!!!
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That was just about my timeline. Started with the TT100P in late October 2015 and moved to the TW100 in mid January of this year. The only thing I miss is my backhand slice. It stayed a lot lower with the 100P and I could cause some trouble with it. With the TW100 it floats and I try not to hit it all that often.

I am a lot more confident with my 1hbh and some days I have run around my forehand to hit it. I was never all that confident with my 1hbh with the 100P - it hit flatter didn't have the margins I needed on that wing.

With the 100P I would slice 80%+ of my backhand shots, whether defense or not. With the TW100, if not hitting defensively I will hit topspin almost exclusively.


Serves are more consistent (more spin) and seem to be a bit faster with the TW100.

Forehand is loopier and does not have the same placement, but I can be more consistent and stay in rallies longer aiming for larger targets.

Volleys are suspect for me no matter what, so I'm not going to comment on that.
 
jonestim said:
That was just about my timeline. Started with the TT100P in late October 2015 and moved to the TW100 in mid January of this year. The only thing I miss is my backhand slice. It stayed a lot lower with the 100P and I could cause some trouble with it. With the TW100 it floats and I try not to hit it all that often.

I am a lot more confident with my 1hbh and some days I have run around my forehand to hit it. I was never all that confident with my 1hbh with the 100P - it hit flatter didn't have the margins I needed on that wing.

With the 100P I would slice 80%+ of my backhand shots, whether defense or not. With the TW100, if not hitting defensively I will hit topspin almost exclusively.


Serves are more consistent (more spin) and seem to be a bit faster with the TW100.

Forehand is loopier and does not have the same placement, but I can be more consistent and stay in rallies longer aiming for larger targets.

Volleys are suspect for me no matter what, so I'm not going to comment on that.
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First set played yesterday with the TW100. I couldn't dial with the serve but could see easy adaption. Forehand was equivalent to the 100P, 1HBH was much better than 100P, slices were totally uncontrolled! This is a guy I usually win easier, Ialso won, but it wasn't that easy, I had to break 2 serves when it was 3x5 to win by 7x5.
 
FV_Br said:
First set played yesterday with the TW100. I couldn't dial with the serve but could see easy adaption. Forehand was equivalent to the 100P, 1HBH was much better than 100P, slices were totally uncontrolled! This is a guy I usually win easier, Ialso won, but it wasn't that easy, I had to break 2 serves when it was 3x5 to win by 7x5.
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It does take some getting used to from the 100P. I threw 6 grams of tungsten tape in the throat and added a leather grip to get the weight up a bit. After a few months of using Prince Tour XC 17 - I still have half a reel - I have been experimenting with strings. I had a wow moment when I threw in Hyper G 17 @45. That's pretty much bagged out and I'm going to try it in 18g at a little higher tension. I have both Cyclone and Cyclone Tour in my other two right now. I like the cyclone when I'm hitting out, but if I get at all tentative I do better with the Tour.

This is one of the few racquets that I have had that I haven't disliked a string job yet - the other being the Diablo Mid. It seems to react well with just about anything.
 
FV_Br said:
after 14 months with the TT100P, decided to go for a ride with the TW100. Let's see what happens!!!
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owned both of these in the past year, found the P not quite spinny enough (especially on serve) and perhaps a bit underpowered, the TW too erratic and difficult to control, solved all those problems with an Angell 100 RA 63
 
ollinger said:
owned both of these in the past year, found the P not quite spinny enough (especially on serve) and perhaps a bit underpowered, the TW too erratic and difficult to control, solved all those problems with an Angell 100 RA 63
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I tried the Angell 100 with ra70, but that wasn't comfortable as people say here for my elbow.
 
Back to the game after a break for total heal of a tennis elbow start generated by the Angel with RA70.

Strung the TW100 with Head Velocity at 48 lbs. Backhands are a dream, I am getting serves in but not with the same power I used to have with the 100P. Forehands are on the disaster side.

Anyone experienced the same and fixed that problem with weight distribution over the frame?
 
FV_Br said:
Back to the game after a break
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Don't you think that's why you don't play well?
Before you stopped did you enjoy the TW100?
If I were you I would focus on recovering my timing and footwork before experimenting with my racquet.
Not blaming you, we are all the same, trying to fix our stroke with lead tape or a new racquet.
 
BillKid said:
Don't you think that's why you don't play well?
Before you stopped did you enjoy the TW100?
If I were you I would focus on recovering my timing and footwork before experimenting with my racquet.
Not blaming you, we are all the same, trying to fix our stroke with lead tape or a new racquet.
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You are totally right, I am still playing and getting back slowly, but is always good to know what other people in a similar situation did, just in case.
 
n8dawg6 said:
i would think the tw100 would be a rocket launcher with a multi at 48 lbs
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I totally agree. @FV_Br, this frame has a lot of power I think, and is more headlight than other "tweeners", so quite easy to accelerate. The hint on the stroke is fine, clear, but I played this with gut/poly, multi and full poly and now with poly I am at 53lbs. With multi you should do at least the same. It is a launcher if not, a little bit bad or late or whatever in the stroke and the ball flies miles...
But nice frame for sure!
 
Needs a copoly or poly for me. A full bed of synthetic gut even ay 58lbs still didn't feel 100% safe. If I am to go 60lbs then I might as well invest in a copoly at a lower tension. The stock string which was warrior response worked well.
 
edelp said:
I totally agree. @FV_Br, this frame has a lot of power I think, and is more headlight than other "tweeners", so quite easy to accelerate. The hint on the stroke is fine, clear, but I played this with gut/poly, multi and full poly and now with poly I am at 53lbs. With multi you should do at least the same. It is a launcher if not, a little bit bad or late or whatever in the stroke and the ball flies miles...
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Coming back from a tennis elbow episode kept me away from Poly or hibrids, starded with a full bed of multi with 10% less tension than my targe, what is 52 to 54. Head Velocity does not have all the power of other multis, but keeps the comfort.

Yesterday I played 2 sets doubles, went really well compared to other days.
 
FV_Br said:
Coming back from a tennis elbow episode kept me away from Poly or hibrids, starded with a full bed of multi with 10% less tension than my targe, what is 52 to 54. Head Velocity does not have all the power of other multis, but keeps the comfort.

Yesterday I played 2 sets doubles, went really well compared to other days.
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After 2 hours of play velocity starts moving all around and becomes unplayable. Test 4 times already. Any other sugestion for multis that do not muve that much?
 
FV_Br said:
After 2 hours of play velocity starts moving all around and becomes unplayable. Test 4 times already. Any other sugestion for multis that do not muve that much?
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I'm done with multis because they don't last long enough. My favorite arm friendly setup is Ashaway Monogut ZX in the mains and Babolat Origin in the crosses. I started playing with the Beast O3 98.
 
Ramon said:
I'm done with multis because they don't last long enough. My favorite arm friendly setup is Ashaway Monogut ZX in the mains and Babolat Origin in the crosses. I started playing with the Beast O3 98.
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Tried that, 50 lbs and it is uncontrolable as well.
 
Ramon said:
You could try increasing the tension. I used a similar setup on the Prince Tour 98 ESP, and I strung that one up at 66 pounds and it was still comfortable.
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I am thinking about using Senstation at 52 or 54, or even mixing it with a soft poly on the cross.
 
FV_Br said:
I am thinking about using Senstation at 52 or 54, or even mixing it with a soft poly on the cross.
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I tried multi mains with poly crosses before. If you hit with any kind of pace or spin at all, the crosses will saw thru the mains in about 3-5 hours.
 
FV_Br said:
After 2 hours of play velocity starts moving all around and becomes unplayable. Test 4 times already. Any other sugestion for multis that do not muve that much?
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Isospeed Professional Classic, low powered, I love this string as a cross with Gut main - but can also work well as a FB. Only multi so far that does not move around for me in an open pattern racquet. Cheap too.
 
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