Pro Kennex Laver Heritage Series Type C 93

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We have heard a lot about the Redondo, but has anyone out there used one of the Laver Heritage Type Cs? If so, would appreciate some impressions and how they compare to the Redondos...
 
leonardtay said:
We have heard a lot about the Redondo, but has anyone out there used one of the Laver Heritage Type Cs? If so, would appreciate some impressions and how they compare to the Redondos...
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I've heard it plays more solid than the Redondo. Have no direct experience.

Others please chime in.
 
i loved it! Want to try the redondo version though. I had just hit with my k90(really an n90 with a k90 PJ) and i decided to take the Type C Mid for a spin. it felt just as good as the wilson...nice heft and easy to move around. I'm a weak 5.0 player and i'm considering getting a redondo mid or two just to have cause i love PK and want to try the redondo version...
 
way more solid than the redondo...when PK sent me the redondo to switch to, I just couldn't do it. I think with a bit of lead you could get the redondo similar, though.

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I want to say that it feels like a Prestige but really, there's nothing to compare it to. I can switch easily between a PS85, Prestige, and the Type C without having to adjust too much. Heh, only reason I took that picture was because they were all cracked
 
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Terrific sticks. Like them better than the Redondo versions. Nice flex, big serves and buttery volleys. Better suited to a stronger player, IMHO, but maybe that's because I'm not good enough to use them properly!
 
I am a Redondo Mid user/lover/addict and have the Type C as well. The C is great in its own right but the added swignweight and stiffness made this frame feel/play very different than my Redondo. I feel that the C is much more crisp and has more pop than the Redondo and I could get away with less preparation/footwork. Serves and big groundstrokes were noticably "bigger" with the C. However, I felt it lacked the touch and feel that I only get with the Redondo. I felt no comfort issues with the Type C. In my opinion, both are great frames and will suit different players.
 
jm4121 said:
I am a Redondo Mid user/lover/addict and have the Type C as well. The C is great in its own right but the added swignweight and stiffness made this frame feel/play very different than my Redondo. I feel that the C is much more crisp and has more pop than the Redondo and I could get away with less preparation/footwork. Serves and big groundstrokes were noticably "bigger" with the C. However, I felt it lacked the touch and feel that I only get with the Redondo. I felt no comfort issues with the Type C. In my opinion, both are great frames and will suit different players.
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Good point. The redondo is definitely softer than the Type C but all in all, both are pretty similar besides the more solid feel of the type C. Both look sexy too, but just look at that classic grey/black =D
 
Thank you for all the feedback guys! I guess the Laver Type Cs being made up of graphite and kevlar should feel quite similar to the Wilson PS, N90s and K90s... toying with the idea of getting those that are on the big auction site at the moment. Any advise on that?
 
leonardtay said:
Thank you for all the feedback guys! I guess the Laver Type Cs being made up of graphite and kevlar should feel quite similar to the Wilson PS, N90s and K90s... toying with the idea of getting those that are on the big auction site at the moment. Any advise on that?
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You did read the comment in post #4 about them all being cracked, right?
 
my own fault. sorry I didn't make it clear :p

edit: sorry, just wanted to clarify some more--these rackets are freaking resilient. I once tried putting it against a wall and smashing it at the throat with my foot...bad idea =O
 
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The ones in the picture above look like 98 heads, and the ones on the big auction site are the 93 head size.

Of course, I was wrong once...many years ago...
 
skraggle said:
The ones in the picture above look like 98 heads, and the ones on the big auction site are the 93 head size.

Of course, I was wrong once...many years ago...
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no you're right...I'm not selling any rackets...what are you talking about haha I was talking about my own photo. They are indeed 98 heads. You've got some nice eyes there.

skraggle said:
Ummm...why?
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was cracked anyway (I was a pissed off teenager)

edit: wow I didn't even see those on the bay...so much confusion in this thread
 
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then this is one hell of a coincidence considering this is the first time ive ever been able to find a type c on **** and now there are 5 by the same person...im not bidding on them just in case!
 
Soonerfan1590 said:
then this is one hell of a coincidence considering this is the first time ive ever been able to find a type c on **** and now there are 5 by the same person...im not bidding on them just in case!
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lol if you don't take them I will...I actually just bought two on TW. Haven't been able to find them since my pk rep flaked out when they went under. That guy on the bay has 0 feedback though...=X
 
or actually 93 if you have that too...i have a 98 that ive been using for the last year. Believe it or not i found it! Nobody claimed its so i gave it a go and found despite all the racquet research i did, the one racquet that works for me is one that i find, ha. Anyways its pretty beat up now so i need to get backups. I guess 98 or 93 would be fine. I searched your sn and find that you are pretty much the bomb with transactions!
 
Soonerfan1590 said:
or actually 93 if you have that too...i have a 98 that ive been using for the last year. Believe it or not i found it! Nobody claimed its so i gave it a go and found despite all the racquet research i did, the one racquet that works for me is one that i find, ha. Anyways its pretty beat up now so i need to get backups. I guess 98 or 93 would be fine. I searched your sn and find that you are pretty much the bomb with transactions!
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Thanks, Sooner. I try to be a good guy to deal with. The Type C I have left (once had 6 of them) is a 5/8, so it doesn't look like I can help you out...glad to hear you found a stick you like so much, though.
 
hey skraggle, dont count me out on that type c even though its a 5/8th. I know there is a big difference in the grip size but still for some reason grip size never really had that big of an effect on my game. Is there any chance that you may hold it for a while for me, I dont exactly need it right away but definitly within the next month.
 
Soonerfan1590 said:
hey skraggle, dont count me out on that type c even though its a 5/8th. I know there is a big difference in the grip size but still for some reason grip size never really had that big of an effect on my game. Is there any chance that you may hold it for a while for me, I dont exactly need it right away but definitly within the next month.
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or just change the pallet from an old type C 4 3/8
 
Soonerfan1590 said:
is changing a pallet hard?
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I'd say it depends on your luck. ;) I just used a flat screwdriver to slowly "lever" them out.

My Redondo's original pallets came out easy. After reinstalling them, they were "impossible" to remove in one piece. I probably stuck them back way too tightly. (And I did not commit the same mistake with the replaced pallets.)

One thing, if you change to smaller-grip pallets, you'll run into the big-butt problem. (Yes, I'm saying this on purpose.) Not so much of a deal. You can use duct tape to increase just the butt end of the pallet to fit the buttcap into.

However, you'll have a very "flared butt" after that, esp. after going two sizes smaller, from 5/8 - 3/8. :shock:

If possible, try to get the right-sized butt cap too.
 
Soonerfan1590 said:
hey skraggle, dont count me out on that type c even though its a 5/8th. I know there is a big difference in the grip size but still for some reason grip size never really had that big of an effect on my game. Is there any chance that you may hold it for a while for me, I dont exactly need it right away but definitly within the next month.
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I can't really hold it, as I'm selling off the rest of my collection and want to get it over with. But if it's still around when you're ready, I'll be more than happy to send it your way!
 
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anirut said:
I'd say it depends on your luck. ;) I just used a flat screwdriver to slowly "lever" them out.

My Redondo's original pallets came out easy. After reinstalling them, they were "impossible" to remove in one piece. I probably stuck them back way too tightly. (And I did not commit the same mistake with the replaced pallets.)

One thing, if you change to smaller-grip pallets, you'll run into the big-butt problem. (Yes, I'm saying this on purpose.) Not so much of a deal. You can use duct tape to increase just the butt end of the pallet to fit the buttcap into.

However, you'll have a very "flared butt" after that, esp. after going two sizes smaller, from 5/8 - 3/8. :shock:

If possible, try to get the right-sized butt cap too.
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Do you mean there are pallets available for Type C or Redendo? You know where I can get one?

Thanks
David
 
i too have 5/8 Ki5 PSEs and i prefer 3/8. I found that taking off the leather and just using two overgrips can thin it down enough to be ok...
 
Thanks! Do you have this racquet?

How does it play?

I just picked up a brand new one (mid) for $85 and I'm looking forward to stringing it up and hitting with it soon.

BTW, what string and tension would you recommend for this racquet?

Thanks again for your time and input. :)
 
Pro Kennex Heritage Type C (Laver) 98

Hey guys,

Is anyone else still using this racquet regularly?

I acquired 3 of them recently and found they play really solid & stable. Stock they are 12.3oz. Mine are 4 3/8 grips with 2 overgrips on all of them and now they are approx. 13ozs and I'm guessing 9-10 pts HL.

Amazingly my arm is still attached to my body with this weight. I mostly play doubles right now so I'm able to last 3 sets without any problem. But it might become an issue in singles play this spring.

I really like this stick because it seems to have both touch and power (especially at net). Maybe the 80% graphite and 20% kevlar. The racquet has just the right amount of flex in the right places. I'm able to use drop volleys as well as strong put aways in doubles with it. I had a problem with the updated Redondo edition when in quick exchanges at the net. Either there was to much flex or the make-up of the racquet was holding it back. I couldn't put the ball away. Maybe in the hands of a better player it wouldn't be an issue.

I seem to be holding serve much more consistently as well. I don't know if its the weight and balance that might be a perfect fit so I'm not double faulting as much. But I've also noticed I'm hitting a heavier ball. I get really good kick & slice with it. I may not be able to get a lot of racquet head speed as with lighter racquets but oh well.

I'm still trying to find the best string and tension. All of my racquets are strung with Wilson NXT and Sensation 16's around 61-62lbs.

Thanks.
 
When they first came out I was looking to switch to a heavier frame from Prince TT Rebel. At the time, ended up goin w/ Prince Diablo close in weight to the Laver C(93mid) but couldn't generate power w/ the flex. First impression when hitting was that it played similar to a prestige but it had a classic wilson prostaff composition(kevlar/graphite) and a way softer flex that you can't get with your typical prostaff. Fills in a void for those who like the kevlar/graphite feel of a classic wilson but do not like the high stiffness. Laver C is buttery w/ great feel especially w/ a poly/multi or full multi but not as much feel as the Redondo that I now use but the Laver is a meatier racket well suited for a heavy game that won't get pushed around so long as you can handle the weight.
 
For those who have this racquet, can you please confirm the stringing pattern?

18 x 20 Skip M 8,10

Tie off 7B, 5T

?

Thanks a bunch:)
 
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Jack & Coke said:
Thanks! Do you have this racquet?

How does it play?

I just picked up a brand new one (mid) for $85 and I'm looking forward to stringing it up and hitting with it soon.

BTW, what string and tension would you recommend for this racquet?

Thanks again for your time and input. :)
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They're great sticks, just a little too demanding for me. One of the best serve and volley sticks I've ever touched. I still keep one around to hit with for fun.

Had 8 at one point. The MP is also a very nice stick.

With the tight pattern, I really liked a 17 gauge string, and liked playing it with Legend gut the most, with Iso-Speed second and good old PSGD third. I strung them at 60 for the gut, and 57 for the rest.

Enjoy the nice purchase!
 
Thanks..

Funny thing now.. I've spoken to two different people now who say that the Redondo and this Laver are the same racquet, but just different name and pj.

Is that true?

Same specs?

Same feel on the court?

Anyone compare the two?

thanks :)
 
From a construction procress point of view, what exactly is "layup"?

I've read this term before, but don't fully understand it. Is it how the layers of graphite and fiberglass are put sandwiched and glued together?

thanks
 
Redondo vs Type C Laver (93)

I enjoyed the Laver so much I bought the Redondo without question. Big mistake, if you're basing a buy decision on the Laver don't go there. You can have my Redondo, cheap. 4 5/8, used very little and I do mean that.
 
mltaylor said:
Hey guys,

Is anyone else still using this racquet regularly?

I acquired 3 of them recently and found they play really solid & stable. Stock they are 12.3oz. Mine are 4 3/8 grips with 2 overgrips on all of them and now they are approx. 13ozs and I'm guessing 9-10 pts HL.

Amazingly my arm is still attached to my body with this weight. I mostly play doubles right now so I'm able to last 3 sets without any problem. But it might become an issue in singles play this spring.

I really like this stick because it seems to have both touch and power (especially at net). Maybe the 80% graphite and 20% kevlar. The racquet has just the right amount of flex in the right places. I'm able to use drop volleys as well as strong put aways in doubles with it. I had a problem with the updated Redondo edition when in quick exchanges at the net. Either there was to much flex or the make-up of the racquet was holding it back. I couldn't put the ball away. Maybe in the hands of a better player it wouldn't be an issue.

I seem to be holding serve much more consistently as well. I don't know if its the weight and balance that might be a perfect fit so I'm not double faulting as much. But I've also noticed I'm hitting a heavier ball. I get really good kick & slice with it. I may not be able to get a lot of racquet head speed as with lighter racquets but oh well.

I'm still trying to find the best string and tension. All of my racquets are strung with Wilson NXT and Sensation 16's around 61-62lbs.

Thanks.
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where can I buy couple of these? thanks
 
From: http://www.prokennex.com.sg/products/tennis/heritage.html (2005)

ProKennex Heritage Series Racquets


ProKennex Heritage Type C Racquet

Control oriented racquets that are solid yet maneuverable. Thin beam, 93 sq. inch and 98 sq. inch head sizes, the Type C racquets are best suited to advanced players looking for a classic feeling racquet.


ProKennex Heritage Type R Racquet

A player's racquet with the right credentials to become an instant classic. 100 sq. inch headsize, standard length, 57 flex (RDC), 11.7 ounces strung, and 4 points head light.


ProKennex Heritage Type S Racquet

Designed for players seeking a unique mix of traditional feel and control in a maneuverable, lighter swinging package. Awarded TENNIS Magazine's Editor's Choice. Features a 100 sq. inch head size, standard 27 inch length frame and has a strung weight of 11.2 ounces.


ProKennex Heritage Type SX Racquet

Great control-oriented 'tweener, and TENNIS Magazine's Editor's Choice. Extended length provides good heft without compromising mobility. 100 sq. inch head size. 27-1/2 inches long. 11.4 ounces.
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Type C details:

ProKennex Heritage Type C Racquet
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Mid-size Characteristics: features thin straight beam, 93 sq. inch head size and leather grip, offering a serious player's stick delivers a solid performance for players with long fast swings combination of a 12.4 ounce static weight and an 8 points head light balance make the Type C both maneuverable and stable in play on longer strokes Type C is easy to accelerate through the ball while there is plenty of feel to be had for slower placement shots best suited to faster swinging 4.0+ level players

Midplus Characteristics: a classic, control oriented racquet for player who likes the feel of a Midplus head size the straight beam and tight string pattern offers plenty of control and feel at just over 12 ounces strung, the Type C 98 is solid and comfortable at impact, even on off-center hits
a versatile racquet for net rushing, all-court or baseline players best suited to medium to fast swinging 4.0+ level players

Mid-size Specifications:
(strung/unstrung)


Head Size: 93 sq. in. / 600 sq. cm
Length:27 inches / 69 cm
Weight:12.4oz / 352g 11.8oz / 335g
Balance:8pts Head Light 12pts Head Light
Swing Weight:330 300
Stiffness:60
Beam Width:20mm Straight Beam
Composition:80% Ultra High Modulus Graphite / 20% Kevlar
Power Level:Low
Swing Speed:Fast
Grip Type:Leather
String Pattern:18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 8T,10T,8H,10H
Two Pieces, No shared holes
String Tension:55 - 68 pounds

Mid-plus Specifications:
(Strung / Unstrung)

Head Size: 98 sq. in. / 632 sq. cm
Length:27 inches / 69 cm
Weight:12.3oz / 349g 11.8oz / 335g
Balance:8pts Head Light 12pts Head Light
Swing Weight:332 300
Stiffness:57
Beam Width:20mm Straight Beam
Composition:80% Ultra High Modulus Graphite / 20% Kevlar
Power Level:Low
Swing Speed:Fast
Grip Type:Leather
String Pattern:18 Mains / 20 Crosses
Mains skip: 8T,10T,8H,10H
Two Pieces, No shared holesString Tension:55 - 68 pounds</SPAN>
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