BLADE PRO 16x19 IsI am curious in what aspects this pro lab version is different from the retail one??
I am curious in what aspects this pro lab version is different from the retail one??
Its essentially Wilson's version of a Head Radical Pro. Think earlier, flexier versions like the youtek and prior. They made it to get Head players to switch.
The Radical Pro from those generation was a 100si head 16x19 and was quickly dropped by Head (Youtek and Microgel)
What PP probably meant to say was made to be similar to the older Radical Tour (specifically the LM Radical Tour)
No, I know what I said. The Radical Pro youtek was a 98 and was used by a decent amount of Pros. And yes, the Liquid Metal was also a prior version.
Tennis Warehouse - Head Youtek IG Radical Pro Racquet Review
www.tennis-warehouse.com
Yeah the H22 and H19 both appeared a to get Head players over to Wilson from their classic Radical and Prestige frames - the Flexpoint Radical Tour was 100sq in and made for Ferrero (and I guess an early forebear of the Speed/Gravity) which supplanted the LM Radical Tour which was a heavier LM Radical, and became the Microgel Radical Pro (to keep in line with the Extreme Pro) carried on with the 100sqin Ferrero derived frame, and then as Murray became the key Radical player (and Berdych who switched to a Youtek Radical with a 16x19 string pattern), the Rad Pro became a heavier Radical with a 16x19 string pattern to tie in with Berdych/Murray's frames starting with the Youtek IGThe Wilson H22 (2006 or earlier) was "released" BEFORE the Youtek IG Radical Pro (2012) to yes switch Radical Players.
The LM Radical (2003) was never released as a "Radical Pro" - Only the MP and Tour.
The First Rad Pro was the MG from 2007 - 100si 16x19. The Second Rad Pro was the Youtek (no IG in the name yet) from 2009. Also 100si 16x19... Finally with the 2012 Youtek IG model they made the Pro from the same mold as the MP - a 98.
The Wilson H22 (2006 or earlier) was "released" BEFORE the Youtek IG Radical Pro (2012) to yes switch Radical Players.
The LM Radical (2003) was never released as a "Radical Pro" - Only the MP and Tour.
The First Rad Pro was the MG from 2007 - 100si 16x19. The Second Rad Pro was the Youtek (no IG in the name yet) from 2009. Also 100si 16x19... Finally with the 2012 Youtek IG model they made the Pro from the same mold as the MP - a 98.
@gold325 is correct here on MG and YT rad pros being 100si (different molds because of the beam shape but same dimensions and drill IIRC). And in my experience blade pro and IG Rad pro are not that similar. Much different flex and feel, likely due to the pointed-oval beam shape on the IG rad vs a true box on the BP. BP is closest to older LM and FP head radicals for me, but who am I to say your experience is wrong…you feel whatever you feelNo, I know what I said. The Radical Pro youtek was a 98 and was used by a decent amount of Pros. And yes, the Liquid Metal was also a prior version.
Tennis Warehouse - Head Youtek IG Radical Pro Racquet Review
www.tennis-warehouse.com
@gold325 is correct here on MG and YT rad pros being 100si (different molds because of the beam shape but same dimensions and drill IIRC). And in my experience blade pro and IG Rad pro are not that similar. Much different flex and feel, likely due to the pointed-oval beam shape on the IG rad vs a true box on the BP. BP is closest to older LM and FP head radicals for me, but who am I to say your experience is wrong…you feel whatever you feel
I mostly popped in to back up @gold325 because the youtek rad pro was a 100…Yeah I mean I wasn't trying to get granular. My point is that it plays like an older Radical frame. The youtek reminds me of it due to the high SW and head heavy balance. Agree the feel is not the same. I understand that they made the H22 earlier to get Liquid metal and flexpoint players over to Wilson.
Mainly was just speaking in general to describe the differences from a regular blade. After the IG the radicals got a lot stiffer and the general characteristics of the frame changed a lot.
I was thinking about the model that I linked above, that’s why I mentioned it. It was a 98 with 62 ra and a 3 pts hl balance along with a high sw and strung weight of 323. Total beast of a frame. I owned one for a while and the blade pro always reminds me of it. Mercifully the sw on my blade pros are 333 or so. I think my head rad pro was easily in the 340s.I mostly popped in to back up @gold325 because the youtek rad pro was a 100…
Just saw you can not order from or ship to Europe .. bummer
You’re probably right. I’ll keep enjoying the regular 98’s with some extra weightHonestly man... its nothing that other worldly special or anything. The standard Blade is a more practical racket with better results for almost everyone.
I can definitely agree to this. Got a V8 16x19, Blade Pro 16x19 and was on a testing day with all the V9 versions...and ordered 2 of the 18x20´s since they played the best for me.Honestly man... its nothing that other worldly special or anything. The standard Blade is a more practical racket with better results for almost everyone.
Don't let these naysayers say nay at youYou’re probably right. I’ll keep enjoying the regular 98’s with some extra weight
Don't let these naysayers say nay at you
The Blade Pro is special, it has a very nice flexible feel, very pure and direct, good ol graphite sans marketing tech or wizardry.
Quite different from most other racquets out there now.
Will you play the best tennis with it?...I don't know, I don't know your level.
Can it be difficult to play with?..absolutely yes but, again, kind of depends your level and what your interest is in playing (having fun vs competing).
It is a very fun racquet.
I had the 16x19 for awhile but the power and launch angle was too much for my play style. (I don't hit enough topspin.)
I only modded with a leather grip and really liked it.
Isn't tennis supposed to be fun?He just told us he cant get it where he lives - so I really dont want to hype him up to get something that is not going to be easy to get for him anyway.
I use the Wilson Ultra Tour (same as UP v3, v4) which is also "special racket" - I could replace BP with UP in your description above and it would sound just as good - but would I recommend it to anyone who cant get it in their market knowing that there is a high chance of disappointment/ failure especially if paying well above market price? Nope.
usually the prostock racquet is very different than the regular, typically wider beam and heavier but you have to ask wilson. my experience with the Blade 98 v7 and BladePro 98 v7 was that the Prostock was heavier and had a wider beam, besides the gloss paint job, butI am curious in what aspects this pro lab version is different from the retail one??
Just to avoid confusion, Blade Pro is not a "pro stock" Blade. Actual pro stocks are not sold by the manufacturer to the public or retailers. There are actual pro stock Blades, but they are Blade molds (usually K-Blade), not H22 mold frames like the Blade Pro. The H22 and Blade mold produce entirely different racquets. And it makes no difference what the RA number is, the H22 mold racquet is always stiffer feeling than a pro stock or retail Blade. But yes Blade Pro is for sure a little heavier in SW and much stiffer feeling than the regular retail Blade 98. BP also has a little more power. There is no crossover appeal from Blade to Blade Pro IMO. Totally different frames.usually the prostock racquet is very different than the regular, typically wider beam and heavier but you have to ask wilson. my experience with the Blade 98 v7 and BladePro 98 v7 was that the Prostock was heavier and had a wider beam, besides the gloss paint job, but
it played a bit different that the regular.
for my game it made my shots more consistent and hit a heavier ball.
i got the BladePro 98 v8s without trying the regular.
the balance and weight was different than the v7s, and they play slightly different
its more than just the paintjob.
i heard the BladePro 98 v9s are stiffer and heavier, but i have no experience with them
i will have to get some to find out
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To further clarify, the Blade Pro is an H22 mold with a specific retail layup that is pretty stiff. There is additionally a prostock H22 that has various layups depending on who it is being produced for and are usually lower RA than the Blade Pro, but can be as stiff as the Blade Pro.Just to avoid confusion, Blade Pro is not a "pro stock" Blade. Actual pro stocks are not sold by the manufacturer to the public or retailers. There are actual pro stock Blades, but they are Blade molds (usually K-Blade), not H22 mold frames like the Blade Pro. The H22 and Blade mold produce entirely different racquets. And it makes no difference what the RA number is, the H22 mold racquet is always stiffer feeling than a pro stock or retail Blade. But yes Blade Pro is for sure a little heavier in SW and much stiffer feeling than the regular retail Blade 98. BP also has a little more power. There is no crossover appeal from Blade to Blade Pro IMO. Totally different frames.
most of the H22's on the site that sells such things seem to be around 62 (though probably unstrung so might be 60ish), TW list the BP at 61 but there are of course softer layups available for pros - but not a hugely profound difference at least by the numbersTo further clarify, the Blade Pro is an H22 mold with a specific retail layup that is pretty stiff. There is additionally a prostock H22 that has various layups depending on who it is being produced for and are usually lower RA than the Blade Pro, but can be as stiff as the Blade Pro.
This is really hard for me to believe. A 16x19 will always produce more power and spin compared to it's 18x20 counterpart. No exceptionsMaybe give the v9 blade pro 18x20 a try. I tried both and liked the blade pro 18x20 a lot more. Just so much more consistent and I didn't notice less power or spin