Carlo Giovanni Colussi
Semi-Pro
I) Paris Pro, January 1-2, 1950 : apparently not a tournament won by Segura but perhaps a 4-man round robin event won by Kramer though it is not stated anywhere.
Here are some archives (written in italics) that I found in Google (with some characters unfortunately not deciphered) with my comments in bold :
'HE'S GOOD, BUT I WIN'
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Dec 29, 1949
Kramer, six- for Gonzales s I n c e the tour started in New York in late Octo- ... The q u a r t e t will sandwich dates Into the two days In Paris over the ...
This suggests that Kramer, Segura, Gonzales and Parker stayed two days in Paris.
… KRAMER; Wins by 6-3, 6-2, at Paris Net-- Gonzales Tops Parker
$3.95 - New York Times - Jan 2, 1950
PARIS, Jan. 1 (lP -Pancho Segura, the ambidextrous Ecuadorian tennis ... Gonzales, the 1949 United States amateur ?sing, trounced Frank Parker, 6-0, 6-3, ...
So apparently
On January 1, Segura d. Kramer 63 62 and Gonzales d. Parker 60 63
SEGURA DEFEATS KRAMER; Wins by 6-3, 6-2, at Paris Net-- Gonzales …
$3.95 - New York Times - Jan 2, 1950
Kramer and Parker teamed up I for a little revenge, downing Segura and ... Gonzales defeated Segura, 8-6, 11-9 and Kramer trounced Parker, 6-0, 6-0.
Then apparently still on January 1 (given that the paper was dated Jan 2 but I’m not sure at all) Gonzales d. Segura 86 119 and Kramer d. Parker 60 60
KRAMER BEATS GONZALES, 6-1, 6-3, IN PARIS
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
KRAMER BEATS. GONZALES, 6.1,. 6-3, ,IN PARIS. , Jan. 2 (A'). -Jack Kra-. mer handed Richard Gonzales an- other beating today, defeating his fellow ...
Kramer Beats Gonzales Again in Paris Duels
Pay-Per-View - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
Paris, Jan. 2. -- (AP.) -- Jnck [Cramer DJck Gonzalos licking today, (')ils Fellow Cnlirornlnn, 0-1. 0-3, In nn Indoor Ipnnl* Iwtoiv 0000 In Hie I'nlnln Ucs ...
KRAMER BEATS GONZALES, 6-1, 6-3, IN PARIS
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
In another match, Pancho Segura of Ecuador mas- tered Frankle Parker, 6-3, 8-6. Gonzales and Segura defeated Kramer and Parker in doubles, 7-9, 64, 6-2.
On January 2, Kramer b. Gonzales again (in Paris duels) 61 63 and Segura d. Parker 63 86
Was this Kramer’s beating of Gorgo really again in Paris ? It would therefore suggest that Kramer and Gonzales had met in Paris before January 2 (so probably on December 31)
Summary of my researches :
1949, December 26-28: Kramer, Segura, Gonzales, Parker played pro matches at Wembley
Then two days in Paris
1950, January 1 : Segura d. Kramer 63 62; Gonzales d. Parker 60 63
1950, January 1 ??? : Gonzales d. Segura 86 119; Kramer d. Parker 60 60
1950, January 2 : Kramer d. Gonzales 61 63; Segura d. Parker 63 86
I haven’t found any comment or result suggesting that the Segura-Kramer match on January 1 was a final of a 4-man tourney. After looking at the results right now I wonder if the Paris event was a round-robin affair held on two successive days (January 1-2, 1950) as the previous Wembley event (3 days), with each man playing 3 matches against the others.
If it’s true the final standings would be as follows :
1) Kramer 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 29 games won - 16 lost = 64,444% games won,
2) Segura 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 41 games won - 33 games lost = 55,405% games won,
3) Gonzales 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 35 games won - 30 lost = 53,846% won,
4) Parker 0 win, 3 losses.
Could anyone check and confirm the 1950 Paris results and scores and dates I have found (and the percentages I estimated) ? Thank you.
II) World Professional Indoor Philadelphia Inquirer Tournament, March 21-25 or 26, 1950
Kramer Drops Frank Kovacs
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 26, 1950
Gonzales earlier defeated Bob. by Riggs, 8-6, 10.8. Riggs will meet Kovacs tomorrow in the singles. Kovacs and Velby Van Horn upset, lop seeded Kramer and ...
GONZALES BEATS KRAMER IN PRO TENNIS FINAL - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)
Gonzales Upsets Kramer To Win Pro Net Crown - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)
Kramer Drops Frank Kovacs
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 26, 1950
dropped Frank Kovacs, 3-6, 3, 6-1, tonight to enter the finals of the $10000 Philadelphia In. ( WVorld Professlonal In- door Tennis Tournament. Kramer will ...
3 Californians Advance in Pro Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 22, 1950
Philadelphia. March 21 UP)-. Three Califor'nians-C h a m p I'o n Jack Kramer, ... 6-2, 6-1; Riggs eliminated Mitch Gorntoof Fort Lauderdale, Fla., 9-7, 6-2, ...
3 Californians Advance in Pro Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 22, 1950
Three Califor'nians-C h a m p I'o n Jack Kramer, Bobby Rlggs,~ and Carl Earn-won their way into the quarter-final round of the Philadelphia $10000 ...
Beavers Battle Wolfpack in NCAA Play-off
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 25, 1950
PHILADELPHIA. March 21 (A)-Top-seeded Jack Kramer of Los Angeles defeated eighth- seeded Carl Earn of Hollywood, Cal., 6-4, 6-4, tonight at the Arena to ...
Beavers Battle Wolfpack in NCAA Play-off
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 25, 1950
Segura Loses to Gonzales. PHILADELPHIA. March 21 (A)-Top-seeded Jack Kramer of Los Angeles defeated eighth- seeded Carl Earn of Hollywood, Cal., 6-4, 6-4, ...
So from the information above I can list the following results
F Gonzales d. Kramer 75 63 64
Riggs won the consolation match probably over Kovacs : I guess it was the 3rd place play-off.
S Gonzales d. Riggs 86 108 (probably in the semis), Kramer d. Kovacs 36 63 61
Q Gonzales d. Segura (probably in the quarters), Kramer (top seeded) d. Earn (8th seeded)
There was at least a round before the quarters because Kramer, Earn and Riggs (who d. Mitch Gornto, Jr 97 62) won at least a match before reaching the quarters
Given that Segura met Gonzales as early as the quarterfinals I guess that Segura was only 5th seeded in that March 1950 event.
Of course I would enjoy new results of that event
III) World Professional Indoor Philadelphia Inquirer Tournament, March 21-29, 1952
I found new results contradicting a little what I published some months ago :
March 21, 1952 : Kramer d. Kovacs 75 60; Gonzales d. Segura 62 64
March 22 : Segura d. Kramer 60 1513; Gonzales d. Kovacs 62 63
March 24 : Gonzales d. Kramer 63 64; Segura d. Kovacs 62 62
this was supposed to be the third round of the event : in fact it was the 3rd day of the competition and the conclusion of the first round robin affair when all the players had met each other once.
Then the dates, the results and the scores are less sure :
March 26 : Gonzales d. Kramer 64 64 ("Gonzales again whips Kramer"); Segura d. Kovacs 62 63
March (27 ??) : Kramer d. Kovacs 86 63
March 28 : Kovacs d. Gonzales 06 64 64 (score not sure ??); Kramer d. Segura 46 86 63 (or 63 57 86)
see below about the Kramer-Segura score however in another source (which I don’t remember anymore) I found the contradicting statement "Segura b. Kramer again"
Final standings :
1 Gonzales 5 wins - 1 loss
2 Segura & Kramer 3 wins - 2 losses each
4 Kovacs 1 win - 5 losses
IV) World Pro (inc. US Pro) Championships, Cleveland, May 30 - June 7, 1952
Q: Segura d. Al Doyle 62 75 / Budge d. Jack Rodgers 63 62 / Kovacs d. John ("Jack") March 62 75 (promoter and manager of the tournament) / Gonzales d. (in the quarters ??) John Howard
S: Segura d. Budge 6-0 6-3 6-2 / Gonzales d. Kovacs 6-3 6-3 6-3
F: Pancho Segura (ECU) - Pancho Gonzales (USA) 3-6 6-4 3-6 6-4 6-0
V) European Pro Tour, summer 1952
Segura Defeats Don Budge In Paris Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver - Jun 29, 1952
PARIS, June 28 (INS)--S i]NSi-rancho Spqura of Kruudnr wmi his second straight in Hip Paris Professional Tennis Ctiarnpionships ; Don HuJrc o( New York. ...
New Point System Set for Decathlon
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Jun 30, 1952
PARIS, June 29 (EP)-Jack Kra. mer defeated Don Budge today, 5-7, 6 0, 6-3, ... -Pancho Segura of Ecuador whipped Pancho Gonzales, 6.2, 6-2. ...
So
Paris, June 28, 1952 : Segura d. Budge
Paris, June 29, 1952 : Segura d. Gonzales 62 62 ; Kramer d. Budge 57 60 63
This is the first time that I find a Kramer result in 1952 apart from Philadelphia and Wembley.
So Kramer's very temporary win-loss record in 1952 against the very best pro players is as follows :
Kramer vs Gonzales 0-3
Kramer vs Segura 1-1 (and not 0-2)
Kramer vs Budge 2-0
Kramer vs Kovacs 2-0
and Segura's against Gonzales is 2-5
and Gonzales' against Kovacs is 2-1
Here are some archives (written in italics) that I found in Google (with some characters unfortunately not deciphered) with my comments in bold :
'HE'S GOOD, BUT I WIN'
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Dec 29, 1949
Kramer, six- for Gonzales s I n c e the tour started in New York in late Octo- ... The q u a r t e t will sandwich dates Into the two days In Paris over the ...
This suggests that Kramer, Segura, Gonzales and Parker stayed two days in Paris.
… KRAMER; Wins by 6-3, 6-2, at Paris Net-- Gonzales Tops Parker
$3.95 - New York Times - Jan 2, 1950
PARIS, Jan. 1 (lP -Pancho Segura, the ambidextrous Ecuadorian tennis ... Gonzales, the 1949 United States amateur ?sing, trounced Frank Parker, 6-0, 6-3, ...
So apparently
On January 1, Segura d. Kramer 63 62 and Gonzales d. Parker 60 63
SEGURA DEFEATS KRAMER; Wins by 6-3, 6-2, at Paris Net-- Gonzales …
$3.95 - New York Times - Jan 2, 1950
Kramer and Parker teamed up I for a little revenge, downing Segura and ... Gonzales defeated Segura, 8-6, 11-9 and Kramer trounced Parker, 6-0, 6-0.
Then apparently still on January 1 (given that the paper was dated Jan 2 but I’m not sure at all) Gonzales d. Segura 86 119 and Kramer d. Parker 60 60
KRAMER BEATS GONZALES, 6-1, 6-3, IN PARIS
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
KRAMER BEATS. GONZALES, 6.1,. 6-3, ,IN PARIS. , Jan. 2 (A'). -Jack Kra-. mer handed Richard Gonzales an- other beating today, defeating his fellow ...
Kramer Beats Gonzales Again in Paris Duels
Pay-Per-View - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
Paris, Jan. 2. -- (AP.) -- Jnck [Cramer DJck Gonzalos licking today, (')ils Fellow Cnlirornlnn, 0-1. 0-3, In nn Indoor Ipnnl* Iwtoiv 0000 In Hie I'nlnln Ucs ...
KRAMER BEATS GONZALES, 6-1, 6-3, IN PARIS
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Jan 3, 1950
In another match, Pancho Segura of Ecuador mas- tered Frankle Parker, 6-3, 8-6. Gonzales and Segura defeated Kramer and Parker in doubles, 7-9, 64, 6-2.
On January 2, Kramer b. Gonzales again (in Paris duels) 61 63 and Segura d. Parker 63 86
Was this Kramer’s beating of Gorgo really again in Paris ? It would therefore suggest that Kramer and Gonzales had met in Paris before January 2 (so probably on December 31)
Summary of my researches :
1949, December 26-28: Kramer, Segura, Gonzales, Parker played pro matches at Wembley
Then two days in Paris
1950, January 1 : Segura d. Kramer 63 62; Gonzales d. Parker 60 63
1950, January 1 ??? : Gonzales d. Segura 86 119; Kramer d. Parker 60 60
1950, January 2 : Kramer d. Gonzales 61 63; Segura d. Parker 63 86
I haven’t found any comment or result suggesting that the Segura-Kramer match on January 1 was a final of a 4-man tourney. After looking at the results right now I wonder if the Paris event was a round-robin affair held on two successive days (January 1-2, 1950) as the previous Wembley event (3 days), with each man playing 3 matches against the others.
If it’s true the final standings would be as follows :
1) Kramer 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 29 games won - 16 lost = 64,444% games won,
2) Segura 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 41 games won - 33 games lost = 55,405% games won,
3) Gonzales 2 wins - 1 loss, 4 sets won - 2 lost, 35 games won - 30 lost = 53,846% won,
4) Parker 0 win, 3 losses.
Could anyone check and confirm the 1950 Paris results and scores and dates I have found (and the percentages I estimated) ? Thank you.
II) World Professional Indoor Philadelphia Inquirer Tournament, March 21-25 or 26, 1950
Kramer Drops Frank Kovacs
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 26, 1950
Gonzales earlier defeated Bob. by Riggs, 8-6, 10.8. Riggs will meet Kovacs tomorrow in the singles. Kovacs and Velby Van Horn upset, lop seeded Kramer and ...
GONZALES BEATS KRAMER IN PRO TENNIS FINAL - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)
Gonzales Upsets Kramer To Win Pro Net Crown - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver (Pay-Per-View)
Kramer Drops Frank Kovacs
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 26, 1950
dropped Frank Kovacs, 3-6, 3, 6-1, tonight to enter the finals of the $10000 Philadelphia In. ( WVorld Professlonal In- door Tennis Tournament. Kramer will ...
3 Californians Advance in Pro Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 22, 1950
Philadelphia. March 21 UP)-. Three Califor'nians-C h a m p I'o n Jack Kramer, ... 6-2, 6-1; Riggs eliminated Mitch Gorntoof Fort Lauderdale, Fla., 9-7, 6-2, ...
3 Californians Advance in Pro Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 22, 1950
Three Califor'nians-C h a m p I'o n Jack Kramer, Bobby Rlggs,~ and Carl Earn-won their way into the quarter-final round of the Philadelphia $10000 ...
Beavers Battle Wolfpack in NCAA Play-off
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 25, 1950
PHILADELPHIA. March 21 (A)-Top-seeded Jack Kramer of Los Angeles defeated eighth- seeded Carl Earn of Hollywood, Cal., 6-4, 6-4, tonight at the Arena to ...
Beavers Battle Wolfpack in NCAA Play-off
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 25, 1950
Segura Loses to Gonzales. PHILADELPHIA. March 21 (A)-Top-seeded Jack Kramer of Los Angeles defeated eighth- seeded Carl Earn of Hollywood, Cal., 6-4, 6-4, ...
So from the information above I can list the following results
F Gonzales d. Kramer 75 63 64
Riggs won the consolation match probably over Kovacs : I guess it was the 3rd place play-off.
S Gonzales d. Riggs 86 108 (probably in the semis), Kramer d. Kovacs 36 63 61
Q Gonzales d. Segura (probably in the quarters), Kramer (top seeded) d. Earn (8th seeded)
There was at least a round before the quarters because Kramer, Earn and Riggs (who d. Mitch Gornto, Jr 97 62) won at least a match before reaching the quarters
Given that Segura met Gonzales as early as the quarterfinals I guess that Segura was only 5th seeded in that March 1950 event.
Of course I would enjoy new results of that event
III) World Professional Indoor Philadelphia Inquirer Tournament, March 21-29, 1952
I found new results contradicting a little what I published some months ago :
March 21, 1952 : Kramer d. Kovacs 75 60; Gonzales d. Segura 62 64
March 22 : Segura d. Kramer 60 1513; Gonzales d. Kovacs 62 63
March 24 : Gonzales d. Kramer 63 64; Segura d. Kovacs 62 62
this was supposed to be the third round of the event : in fact it was the 3rd day of the competition and the conclusion of the first round robin affair when all the players had met each other once.
Then the dates, the results and the scores are less sure :
March 26 : Gonzales d. Kramer 64 64 ("Gonzales again whips Kramer"); Segura d. Kovacs 62 63
March (27 ??) : Kramer d. Kovacs 86 63
March 28 : Kovacs d. Gonzales 06 64 64 (score not sure ??); Kramer d. Segura 46 86 63 (or 63 57 86)
see below about the Kramer-Segura score however in another source (which I don’t remember anymore) I found the contradicting statement "Segura b. Kramer again"
Final standings :
1 Gonzales 5 wins - 1 loss
2 Segura & Kramer 3 wins - 2 losses each
4 Kovacs 1 win - 5 losses
IV) World Pro (inc. US Pro) Championships, Cleveland, May 30 - June 7, 1952
Q: Segura d. Al Doyle 62 75 / Budge d. Jack Rodgers 63 62 / Kovacs d. John ("Jack") March 62 75 (promoter and manager of the tournament) / Gonzales d. (in the quarters ??) John Howard
S: Segura d. Budge 6-0 6-3 6-2 / Gonzales d. Kovacs 6-3 6-3 6-3
F: Pancho Segura (ECU) - Pancho Gonzales (USA) 3-6 6-4 3-6 6-4 6-0
V) European Pro Tour, summer 1952
Segura Defeats Don Budge In Paris Tennis Tourney
Pay-Per-View - Hartford Courant - ProQuest Archiver - Jun 29, 1952
PARIS, June 28 (INS)--S i]NSi-rancho Spqura of Kruudnr wmi his second straight in Hip Paris Professional Tennis Ctiarnpionships ; Don HuJrc o( New York. ...
New Point System Set for Decathlon
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Jun 30, 1952
PARIS, June 29 (EP)-Jack Kra. mer defeated Don Budge today, 5-7, 6 0, 6-3, ... -Pancho Segura of Ecuador whipped Pancho Gonzales, 6.2, 6-2. ...
So
Paris, June 28, 1952 : Segura d. Budge
Paris, June 29, 1952 : Segura d. Gonzales 62 62 ; Kramer d. Budge 57 60 63
This is the first time that I find a Kramer result in 1952 apart from Philadelphia and Wembley.
So Kramer's very temporary win-loss record in 1952 against the very best pro players is as follows :
Kramer vs Gonzales 0-3
Kramer vs Segura 1-1 (and not 0-2)
Kramer vs Budge 2-0
Kramer vs Kovacs 2-0
and Segura's against Gonzales is 2-5
and Gonzales' against Kovacs is 2-1
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