cyanide43

Rookie
Changed the title to more accurately reflect the post.

Original post content:
"Hi. Like many of us in this forum I have become very interested in the gear the pros use and how it is different from our own.

I am a former division 1 player, so I have seen a pretty high level of play and realized it's still massively different from the way the pros hit. Part of that is physique and dedication to the game, but a big part of it is players using racquets built to their games. These racquets are massively different compared to the retail frames which are built for "everyone". Not only have I observed this difference at school, but I have also observed this difference while working and customizing racquets at a tennis academy in Florida.

I am in the process of compiling as many pro specifications as possible into a spreadsheet for comparison (in no way is this a finished product). I have also included relevant links and definitions for those that are new to the racquet specification game in adjoining tabs.

The long and short of it? Customization makes a huge difference to high level players and the way they play. There's a distinct lack of knowledge of specs and what they mean to the rising ITF junior, collegiate player, or even player on futures circuit and I'm hoping to bridge that gap with this and a few other projects.

Let me know if you might have any other players specifications you may want me to add that you are aware of, corrections to make, or any other comments. Keep in mind this is still a work in progress.

Thanks!"
 
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dr325i

Legend
A few notes:
1) Novak is using the PT113B1
2) Verdasco I believe is using 16x19 which would be the PT113B2
3) I don't think Goffin is using the H22?
 

SavvyStringer

Professional
Kyrigos Tension 2017 was 55
Sock string 2017 was alu rough with a 36 tension
Lauren Davis at Volvo 55/53 if I remember correctly
Jamie Murray VS/TB 16L 44-46 in 2017 (changed tensions each day)
Donald Young HyperG 16L/ HG17 55 in 2017

Great list. I'm not perfectly certain why everyone cares so much but cool to look at none the less.

Edit: Annisamova no specs but it’s an external cortex puredrive like the black ones at 55 with rpm
 
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moon shot

Hall of Fame
This is a great collection of string tensions that I've been using to update my listings.
You may already be aware but string logs like that often list what the frame is painted as since for the stringer that is an easy way to identify what they are working on.
 

am1899

Hall of Fame
Cool list.

I would disagree a bit with the conclusions on SW:

It does seem that most pros are over 330 SW. But not all. And that, IMHO, calls this statement into question: “Having a high swingweight is critical to playing at the highest level.” Maybe it’s critical for some. But there’s a few pros out there playing very light, and doing pretty well.
 

cyanide43

Rookie
@CiscoPC600 Yep, will continue to maintain it as best I can. Not sure if I should include a section for just string and string tension (for Shapo, for example) as that's not really too much information into their racquet spec.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
@CiscoPC600 Yep, will continue to maintain it as best I can. Not sure if I should include a section for just string and string tension (for Shapo, for example) as that's not really too much information into their racquet spec.
Perhaps it could be it's own tab for just those players where that's all we have; I know it's many people here are always curious about those two things. Also we know he plays with some form of the SV95.
 

cyanide43

Rookie
Some updates:

1. I've created a new spreadsheet for the pros' strings and racquet models only. It can be found by scrolling to the bottom of the racquet specs spreadsheet or here's a link.

The idea is keeping a list of players here for as long as we don't have further information about their racquet setups. It can also be used for more detailed string changes over the years while overall weight, balance, and swingweight setups do not change.

However, maintaining such a list would be difficult as a one man job as the pros change and update strings and tension more often than they do racquet specs. I would be willing to let other people edit and update this sheet alongside me as long as they follow the set patterns. You can private message me or post here if you have interest in being able to contribute.

2. I've added a formal area to submit corrections. The original post now has a link.

3. I've added a page detailing all of the major customization services (WIP). This link is also available from the "about" tab of the spreadsheet.

4. Finally, I've created a Discord chat for relevant discussion on customization.
 
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CiscoPC600

Professional
Sweeeet, I'll take a look at it this weekend. Thanks for all your work and I'd be glad to help. I'm a setup junkie so having all this data collected on one sheet is awesome.
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
Some updates:

1. I've created a new spreadsheet for the pros' strings and racquet models only. It can be found by scrolling to the bottom of the racquet specs spreadsheet or here's a link.

The idea is keeping a list of players here for as long as we don't have further information about their racquet setups. It can also be used for more detailed string changes over the years while overall weight, balance, and swingweight setups do not change.

However, maintaining such a list would be difficult as a one man job as the pros change and update strings and tension more often than they do racquet specs. I would be willing to let other people edit and update this sheet alongside me as long as they follow the set patterns. You can private message me or post here if you have interest in being able to contribute.

2. I've added a formal area to submit corrections. The original post now has a link.

3. I've added a page detailing all of the major customization services (WIP). This link is also available from the "about" tab of the spreadsheet.

4. Finally, I've created a Discord chat for relevant discussion on customization.
Like what @CiscoPC600 said, thanks for the work in organising collecting all these info in one place.
 

whorng

Rookie
In the comments of this youtube video, Michelle from TW roasts Mike Cranston, "Actually, I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong this time. Zverev helped develop this racquet and is using the Pro to his spec. Not a paint job. Sure, other pros endorse other lines, but Zverev is using Gravity. Just so you have it right for next time :) Michelle, TW"
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
In the comments of this youtube video, Michelle from TW roasts Mike Cranston, "Actually, I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong this time. Zverev helped develop this racquet and is using the Pro to his spec. Not a paint job. Sure, other pros endorse other lines, but Zverev is using Gravity. Just so you have it right for next time :) Michelle, TW"
I'm not sure "Pro to his spec" really means he's using a retail model with a little lead. If it's not a retail model Gravity is is really a Gravity.
 

jackcrawford

Professional
I'm not sure "Pro to his spec" really means he's using a retail model with a little lead. If it's not a retail model Gravity is is really a Gravity.
Good point. If it is just the lightest of the production model hairpins that then have his custom grip attached, and a little lead/silicone to come up to his specs, it's a Gravity. If it's the same layup but very light and has lots of weight added, that would be a Gravity Pro Stock. If it is a different layup available only to select pros, then it is not a Gravity. I believe Michelle, so I think it is the first option.
 

moon shot

Hall of Fame
I was checking the pictures yesterday with a friend and we confirmed that Alexander Zeverev is using a gravity. Check the grommet at 6 o'clock and you will see its clearly the same design as retail gravity instead of IG speed mp he was using
I’m not familiar enough with speed grommets but you will also find it appears to be unique at the lowest part of the beam.

I also wonder if the grommets from later speeds would fit the IG he was playing with under other paint jobs. It seems he went from clear to black grommets some time ago.
 

Jster

Professional
@CiscoPC600 already there under the "mirror" tab

@Jster under the mirror tab of tsitsipas the source that gave the specs said it was an H22:
Thank you for the photos. It further confirms that it is not a H22:)

There is no way for a h22 (18x20) to have a even more special drilling pattern aka 7t and 9t skipped for the mains.
So.... LOL

On top of that, 90% H22 and H19 sponsored users( wilson global) are more likely above 30/ former Head players. No reasons for Tsitsipas to use a fake head mold racquet at all.
 
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cyanide43

Rookie
How many layers of lead tape does Murray have at the top of the handle?
Lead underneath the handle is only a single layer deep as not to disturb the shape of the bevels of the handle too much.

As far as the amount, it's not about how much each frame has, but whether the amount gets the frame to his desired weight. Each frame may have a different amount of weight.
 
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