Pro stock racquets accidentally sent from TW?

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Wow, this is amazing...
I ordered 2 microgel radicals from TW a while ago, but I did it in the wrong grip size.
The new pallets just came in today, so I took the old ones off.

Then I saw the TGK code, and thought, hey, might as well google it.

It's a TGK 231.1.

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that's a flexy, closed pattern prostock radical?

Did I somehow luck out, or do I just suck at searching?

Pics will be up in a few minutes.

Can't wait to see what's under the other one...
 
Don't quote me on this but from what i know is that on head pallets they all have the tgk code. if you have a prostock frame the code would be in the throat. like i said don't quote me but from what i know all retail frames have the codes on the pallet
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Don't quote me on this but from what i know is that on head pallets they all have the tgk code. if you have a prostock frame the code would be in the throat. like i said don't quote me but from what i know all retail frames have the codes on the pallet
Buzz.

Kill.
 

dr325i

Legend
Don't quote me on this but from what i know is that on head pallets they all have the tgk code. if you have a prostock frame the code would be in the throat. like i said don't quote me but from what i know all retail frames have the codes on the pallet
Yep, the MG/YT PJ's all have the TGK codes on the hairpin that correspond to the Pro codes showing that the mold is the same.
The Pro stock rackets DID have the code inside throat until recently -- the latest batch comes with the retail specs on it and will be almost impossible to tell the difference...
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Yep, the MG/YT PJ's all have the TGK codes on the hairpin that correspond to the Pro codes showing that the mold is the same.
The Pro stock rackets DID have the code inside throat until recently -- the latest batch comes with the retail specs on it and will be almost impossible to tell the difference...
Rats, so no prostock I guess?
 

BobFL

Hall of Fame
Wow, this is amazing...
I ordered 2 microgel radicals from TW a while ago, but I did it in the wrong grip size.
The new pallets just came in today, so I took the old ones off.

Then I saw the TGK code, and thought, hey, might as well google it.

It's a TGK 231.1.

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that's a flexy, closed pattern prostock radical?

Did I somehow luck out, or do I just suck at searching?

Pics will be up in a few minutes.

Can't wait to see what's under the other one...
Well, I can tell you one thing for sure - you won't be getting pro stock frames by "accident" ;)

Yeah, retail frames do come with TGK codes. There is no mystery about that. Imo, TGKs are no better in any way than retail sticks. They do come in lighter form to be customized to match desired specs...
 
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dgoran

Hall of Fame
As I always use to say...

Prostock head = retail counterpart minus some weight for you to customize it. no magic.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
I searched for like an hour about prostocks so I wouldn't make this post and look like an idiot.

Guess I missed something.

Dang, I was already trying to see how much I could get for it. It could probably pay for my string for a while.
And the other one didn't have it on the pallet, haha, so I thought it did somehow get mixed in.
 
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hrstrat57

Hall of Fame
I searched for like an hour about prostocks so I wouldn't make this post and look like an idiot.

Guess I missed something.

Dang, I was already trying to see how much I could get for it. It could probably pay for my string for a while.
Don't feel like you are an idiot. I didn't know that codes were on the hairpin of all Head china sticks until I got schooled on this forum last week......

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dgoran

"As I always use to say...

Prostock head = retail counterpart minus some weight for you to customize it. no magic"

The TGK pro stock are not magic because they are not built by 1000 year old Austrian half dragon half men in the secret mountain forest factory like the PT's are.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
Wow!!!! I have been hunting for months (and I refuse to pay $25 for 2 pcs of plastic)

The solution is probably hunt down some broken frames and part em out.
He sold 'em for about $35 shipped I think, not too bad. That was for two sets.

I understood there was a markup, but I thought it was worth it considering that shipping on 2 broken 1/2 size racquets would probably be about that with the cost of the racquet in it.
Also that I'd probably hurt 'em getting them off.
 

HiroProtagonist

Professional
lol, are you sure???
Oh ya a Pro could totally lead this up and play w it lol.

No but really the Redondo actually does seem like a close to pro stack racquet as it comes very very head light, perfect for customizing, and its 100% Graph. so no fake racquet tech gimmicks, just MHO
 

yuth

Rookie
I think that is not prostock. I have PT10 in flexpoint pj. It is very differrence in term of feeling. PT10 is very good racquet for me.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Wow, this is amazing...
I ordered 2 microgel radicals from TW a while ago, but I did it in the wrong grip size.
The new pallets just came in today, so I took the old ones off.

Then I saw the TGK code, and thought, hey, might as well google it.

It's a TGK 231.1.

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that's a flexy, closed pattern prostock radical?

Did I somehow luck out, or do I just suck at searching?

Pics will be up in a few minutes.

Can't wait to see what's under the other one...
Every single solitary HEAD racquet has a engineering code. It is also no coincidence that many "Pro Stock" share the exact same engineering code as retail.:shock:
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Is it just me, or does the prestige mid in the photo (yuth's) have 237.2 written on it?
It does. Which means it is different than a MG Prestige Mid with TGK237.1.
TGK237.2 is a MG Prestige Mid with 16x19 string pattern that was not sold to the public although TW got a few in.
TGK237.1 is just a garden variety MG Prestige Mid.
 
Yep, the MG/YT PJ's all have the TGK codes on the hairpin that correspond to the Pro codes showing that the mold is the same.
The Pro stock rackets DID have the code inside throat until recently -- the latest batch comes with the retail specs on it and will be almost impossible to tell the difference...
So Dr325i, the mold is the same but the materials are different when comparing the Prostock TGK vs Retail?
 

Elwood

Rookie
hrstrat57:

I have a Radical that is 4 1/2 and I wanted to make it 4 3/8. Do you have 4 3/8 to trade?
 
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hrstrat57

Hall of Fame
Wow!!!! I have been hunting for months (and I refuse to pay $25 for 2 pcs of plastic)


I have a Radical that is 4 1/2 and I wanted to make it 4 3/8. Do you have 4 3/8 to trade?
I don't have any 4 3/8 Head racquets sorry, but thanks for asking.
 

marosmith

Professional
The materials supplied for ProStock TGK and inline manufacture is identical in qulaity and comes from the same supply channel.
My understanding was that pro stocks are all graphite so they would not have the microgel, or D30 etc...

Am I wrong?
 

anukkapol

New User
it is a retail stick.
I am not quite sure why the code says 237.2 and is a 18x20...
I saw the PT10 up on top, but I can assure you it is not a PT10...
so it's just a retail youtek prestige midplus and not the same as tgk237.2 that TW had for sale a while ago, right? (TW's tgk237.2 was a microgel panitjob anyway)
 

LPShanet

Banned
My understanding was that pro stocks are all graphite so they would not have the microgel, or D30 etc...

Am I wrong?
An interesting conundrum. I'll answer your question with a question: do you think the OTC Ti Prestiges had titanium in them? Did the OTC i series really have "intelligence"? VSBabolat will have to confirm this, but I would say that the answer is that the difference between OTC and pro stock these days is mostly at the finishing stages, where the final weights, etc. are determined, rather than in the layups.
 

pyrokid

Hall of Fame
An interesting conundrum. I'll answer your question with a question: do you think the OTC Ti Prestiges had titanium in them? Did the OTC i series really have "intelligence"? VSBabolat will have to confirm this, but I would say that the answer is that the difference between OTC and pro stock these days is mostly at the finishing stages, where the final weights, etc. are determined, rather than in the layups.
Haha the Ti rad actually did have a little chunk of titanium in it, but it did nothing to the performance. maybe added a gram or two.
People say they can feel D30 though, and when I hit with it I could tell the stiffness was pretty dynamic. At least in the youtek radicals.
No idea on microgel though. Interested to find out.
 

LPShanet

Banned
Haha the Ti rad actually did have a little chunk of titanium in it, but it did nothing to the performance. maybe added a gram or two.
People say they can feel D30 though, and when I hit with it I could tell the stiffness was pretty dynamic. At least in the youtek radicals.
No idea on microgel though. Interested to find out.
I won't comment on D30 or any "current" technology, but the titanium in all of Head's racquets was purely cosmetic, as your comments suggest. They didn't even decide whether to call them "titanium" until after the designs were complete and production was underway. Two other questions worth asking: if the technologies are so advanced, then why do they disappear every two years? (In other words, if Microgel were a real breakthrough, why wouldn't they leave it in all future frames, such as the YouTek?). Also, Prince had a series of racquets in the early 90's (e.g. the Vortex) that claimed to do exactly what 3DO is now doing over 15 years later. Their thermoplastic viscoelastic polymer was their answer to 3DO. The racquet was not a classic...
 
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pyrokid

Hall of Fame
I won't comment on D30 or any "current" technology, but the titanium in all of Head's racquets was purely cosmetic, as your comments suggest. They didn't even decide whether to call them "titanium" until after the designs were complete and production was underway. Two other questions worth asking: if the technologies are so advanced, then why do they disappear every two years? (In other words, if Microgel were a real breakthrough, why wouldn't they leave it in all future frames, such as the YouTek?). Also, Prince had a series of racquets in the early 90's (e.g. the Vortex) that claimed to do exactly what 3DO is now doing over 15 years later. Their thermoplastic viscoelastic polymer was their answer to 3DO. The racquet was not a classic...
I'm just interested to know if the microgel is actually built into the layup.

It would be nice if it was actually not present at all, because then my OCD mind could be at rest knowing that I have a pure frame.
 

nighttenis

New User
don`t know about microgel or LM, but i know from a friend who got to test a few Youtek`s from head, that they do have some D30, shown better when he smashed the racket with a hammer :D


btw, does LM realy has a liquid metal, i`m not a head tester so won`t break mine :)
 
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