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PROTENNIS63 said:
It is not bad. I play with poly so cannot tell you how it feels but it is similar to NRG2 and NXT but much cheaper.
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thanks, i'm trying to find a nice multi strings with decent life span. my gf is a bit picky with these strings so here i am looking for them. on the other hand, i'm going to test out that blue gear strings just ordered some and hope it comes to my liking!
 
After searching thru this huge thread, it appears that I should try 5% lower tension on Big Ace if I try it out 1st time, compared to my normal tension with synthetic gut mono (nylon of course).

Do you experienced BA users agree ?

Thanks,
FD
 
5% to 7% sounds about right compared with syn gut. BA is quite soft. Have you used poly's in the past?
 
Man, I tired Big Ace[full job at 57/55 lbs] a few days ago and I must say that those strings are one of the best strings I have ever tried.
Softer than I would've liked but they gave decent pop and pretty good pocketing and control. Might consider buying a reel.
 
fastdunn said:
thanks. yeah i have used polys, mostly luxilons 5%-10% lower tension. 5% on luxilons felt pretty stiff for me.
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I have been playing with alu again lately and BA is much much softer than alu. For comparison, if I was running BA at 55 mains whereas I would do the alu mains at 53 or 52.

J: I have not tried the Kbaum but I do remember there was a thread a few weeks back on a similar issue. The end result I felt was that the K-baum was good but not maybe worth the $ difference. Did you ever find a red syn gut?


Here's that link BTW:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=180368
 
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Just tried out my BA 17/ST 17 today. Aside from having the ST bleed on the ball, I loved it! Now I just need to put the check down for durability. I think that the BA 17 is what I loved so much about it. It's noticeably more playable than the 16.
 
PED said:
I have been playing with alu again lately and BA is much much softer than alu. For comparison, if I was running BA at 55 mains whereas I would do the alu mains at 53 or 52.

J: I have not tried the Kbaum but I do remember there was a thread a few weeks back on a similar issue. The end result I felt was that the K-baum was good but not maybe worth the $ difference. Did you ever find a red syn gut?


Here's that link BTW:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=180368
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Yeah I'm just using the laserfibre for the crosses. It's good stuff. I played with that and the titan for awhile and found that I preferred the crisper feel of using the Laserfibre. The titan just got too soft and mushy for me.

I've tried the Pro Line II way in the past, all I remember is that I liked it much much more than the Tecnifibre red code. The reviews seem so good I thought I would try one more, before I settled on big ace, but I don't know if a string could be worth twice as much as big ace I guess. Those reels are expensive and it seems like you can't get a 1.20 reel for pro line II either...so are you saying you felt the pro line II was superior you just weren't sure if it was worth the cost?
 
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I think the pro line was good and a lot of people liked it more, BUT that it was not good enough to justify the expense over BA.

On another note, I have been using alu rough mains in the PST I got from you and also the aerostorm and that's a great main for that stick. I don't know if you have tried alu mains in your storm but I think you would really like them. I prefer them in the thin beam Babs but not the thicker beams like pdr or apdc.
 
Babb said:
Just tried out my BA 17/ST 17 today. Aside from having the ST bleed on the ball, I loved it! Now I just need to put the check down for durability. I think that the BA 17 is what I loved so much about it. It's noticeably more playable than the 16.
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Try the Micro. If you like the 17 over the 16, you may really love 1.15mm of BA goodness.
 
PED said:
I think the pro line was good and a lot of people liked it more, BUT that it was not good enough to justify the expense over BA.

On another note, I have been using alu rough mains in the PST I got from you and also the aerostorm and that's a great main for that stick. I don't know if you have tried alu mains in your storm but I think you would really like them. I prefer them in the thin beam Babs but not the thicker beams like pdr or apdc.
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Doesn't ALU go dead really quickly though?
 
^^I don't seem to have as big of a problem with the alu going dead as others do. I also have my mains at 50 so maybe that helps a bit.
 
TennisandMusic said:
Doesn't ALU go dead really quickly though?
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I don't know if ALU goes dead any faster then any other poly. IMO when it goes dead there is no doubt about it, It is like someone turned the switch to the "OFF" position. One day you play with it is is fine and the next it is completely dead.
I had a similar feeling the other day when I took my Dunlop MFIL 200 16X19 out of my bag. It was strung with BG 1.25 and PSGD 17g. It just felt completely different and I could tell immediately that is was going dead. It lasted about 6 hours. I have since restrung with BG1.28 and Titan.
 
Rob, I know what you mean. I was playing the other day and got out my apdc with 1.28 BG mains and could tell they were "done". Kinda like spoiled milk.
 
ChrisNC said:
Try the Micro. If you like the 17 over the 16, you may really love 1.15mm of BA goodness.
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Durability is an issue and I can't restring all the time. If durability weren't an issue, I'd definitely be using the 1.15 mm... and at least the 18 gauge.
 
I have a babolat PDR and just bought blue gear hybrided with crosses of titan.

Ive always strung at 64 on my Head FXP Prestige Mid so I want to string it again at 64. I mean, it is a babolat so its power should keep me going even though the bed would be very stiff right?

Reccommendations?
 
DashaandSafin said:
I have a babolat PDR and just bought blue gear hybrided with crosses of titan.

Ive always strung at 64 on my Head FXP Prestige Mid so I want to string it again at 64. I mean, it is a babolat so its power should keep me going even though the bed would be very stiff right?

Reccommendations?
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It depends on what string you have used in the past. If you used synthetic gut than drop your tension on the BG mains down to around 60 and keep the crosses at 64 and see how it feels.

When I first had my PD I had PSGD in it at 60lbs and when the weather warmed up it became a rocket launcher sending balls everywhere but in the court. I used a poly hybrid in my k95 teams before and quickly went back to it in the PD so that I could regain my control without losing my mind. I am now happy with my BG 1.28 in the mains at 56 and Titan syn gut in the crosses at 59. This setup also feels easier on my arm than the pro hurricane/psgd hybrid I used in the past.
 
Just got back from a hitting session with my Son. I still can't get over how much more ball speed, spin and overall ball action that my son is getting using BG. He is using BG1.25/ psgd 17g. Each time we have hit, I can't get over the difference this setup makes over his last setup of Kirschbaum Super Smash Spiky 1.25. When he is ready for restringing, I'll hook him up with BG 1.28/Titan.
 
PED said:
The BA 1.22 seems to be a good compromise as far as playability vs durability.
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PED, Latest update: BG 1.28 @ 52 ( up from 50 ) and Titan @ 56. Like this slightly better. feels a little more crisp. Awesome in the Extreme. The spin of the 1.28 is better than the 1.25.
 
robkat said:
Just got back from a hitting session with my Son. I still can't get over how much more ball speed, spin and overall ball action that my son is getting using BG. He is using BG1.25/ psgd 17g. Each time we have hit, I can't get over the difference this setup makes over his last setup of Kirschbaum Super Smash Spiky 1.25. When he is ready for restringing, I'll hook him up with BG 1.28/Titan.
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Rob, after reading those comments, I'm going to keep my son far away from BG, he's hard enough to beat already ;)

I played at lunch today with BA 117/SF. The feel is awesome but I am looking forward to getting my apdc back tonight with BG128/Titan.

Wayne, I went 54/56 BG/Titan in my aero. I know that combo will work and want the tighter crosses now with the heat rising. Do you think you will go higher ever on the mains in the Extreme? I am not sure what I'll do with BG in the PDR with it's 71 stiffness? Weren't you surprised at just how much more action you can get off of the 1.28?
 
PED said:
Rob, after reading those comments, I'm going to keep my son far away from BG, he's hard enough to beat already ;)

I played at lunch today with BA 117/SF. The feel is awesome but I am looking forward to getting my apdc back tonight with BG128/Titan.

Wayne, I went 54/56 BG/Titan in my aero. I know that combo will work and want the tighter crosses now with the heat rising. Do you think you will go higher ever on the mains in the Extreme? I am not sure what I'll do with BG in the PDR with it's 71 stiffness? Weren't you surprised at just how much more action you can get off of the 1.28?
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As the summer heat in Az. tops 100+ I would think that over the summer I might try the 54-55 range. The extreme has a stiffness of 68 so above that might cause some joint pain in this old body. I was amazed how much more bite I got from the 1.28 vs. 1.25. Just ordered a reel and gave a buddy that ownes a tennis shop near by my 1.25 set's that I had. He is going to order some for his shop.
 
ok... had a long hit today with the PT63 BG/BA combo in my BB11. (i have been favoring my other set-up)... All i can say is, i found a shot i never could execute, until now with the BG/BA rig!

it's that whippy forehand shot that puts spin on the ball and curls it inward... now i love hitting loopy/whippy forehands, but never could get that action where the ball turns/sclices in!!! (only just topspin) it's adicting! i would hesitate for a sec in order to run down a shot and WHIP that sucker and watch it curl... like a bowling ball, just hanging on the gutter...then, snap!

OH, Blue Gear!!! What have you done?!!!! :)
 
jcstennis said:
wao...

have you crossed NRG with a Blue Gear main???
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JCS, Yes I have, BG seems to cut through the multi, though while it was in it played well really seemed to make the ball stay in the string bed a little longer and softened the string bed. I went to a solid core with PSGD then Titan. A buddy gave me a set of K Gut to try as well. Next time or should I say next week when I restring might throw the K Gut into a couple of them.
 
jcstennis said:
ok... had a long hit today with the PT63 BG/BA combo in my BB11. (i have been favoring my other set-up)... All i can say is, i found a shot i never could execute, until now with the BG/BA rig!

it's that whippy forehand shot that puts spin on the ball and curls it inward... now i love hitting loopy/whippy forehands, but never could get that action where the ball turns/sclices in!!! (only just topspin) it's adicting! i would hesitate for a sec in order to run down a shot and WHIP that sucker and watch it curl... like a bowling ball, just hanging on the gutter...then, snap!

OH, Blue Gear!!! What have you done?!!!! :)
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I love how you put my username in front of the hybrid. Makes me feel special lol!

That hybrid was great and the BB11 racquet plays great as well. Glad I am not the only one who did this poly/poly hybrid.
 
wao said:
JCS, Yes I have, BG seems to cut through the multi, though while it was in it played well really seemed to make the ball stay in the string bed a little longer and softened the string bed. .
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WAO, how much softer is the NRG compared to titan in the BG hybrid. I've never tried that, but a guy on another stringing thread feels that 18G NRG plays as well as almost anything out there.

As an aside, my son is still using the aluR/titan hybrid in his PST. He was down 1-6 today in the deciding tiebreaker and came back to win 8-6. He was dealing out some serious hurt with that setup. I figured he was done but he told me later that he had nothing to lose so he just went for it.
 
wao said:
JCS, Yes I have, BG seems to cut through the multi, though while it was in it played well really seemed to make the ball stay in the string bed a little longer and softened the string bed. I went to a solid core with PSGD then Titan. A buddy gave me a set of K Gut to try as well. Next time or should I say next week when I restring might throw the K Gut into a couple of them.
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KGut, an expensive sacrifice... but if it was a free-be, than it may be a good experiment! I have a half set of BG and a half of X1.... hmmm, i wonder what i will do with those two??? :)
 
PED said:
WAO, how much softer is the NRG compared to titan in the BG hybrid. I've never tried that, but a guy on another stringing thread feels that 18G NRG plays as well as almost anything out there.

As an aside, my son is still using the aluR/titan hybrid in his PST. He was down 1-6 today in the deciding tiebreaker and came back to win 8-6. He was dealing out some serious hurt with that setup. I figured he was done but he told me later that he had nothing to lose so he just went for it.
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PED... NRG, i have posted before... if i could afford to re-string with NRG everyday, i would! It has some complex characteristics as multi's go... it seems to do everything right... i have only played the 16 and 17g.. preferring the 17g. :)
 
PROTENNIS63 said:
I love how you put my username in front of the hybrid. Makes me feel special lol!

That hybrid was great and the BB11 racquet plays great as well. Glad I am not the only one who did this poly/poly hybrid.
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i may try it again... so far it has really held up... i will definitely tension the BA cross a little less than i did, maybe the same as the BG... i tensioned the BA 2lbs more than the BG and though it works, i really don't think i am getting the most out of the BA (or at least what i am familiar with when playing BA)... solid feel, nice "metallic whomp' sound (???) :), killer spin, and a lively (springy) bed.
 
guys, i found a really good combo that works. yonex super tour 850 for multi and Kirschbaum proline2 for poly. It took about 30 minutes to break in but once it did, it was great. Power, control and spin, it had it all
 
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I'm using Blue Gear 16g in my stick (PS85) for the first time strung @ 48 lbs and man, them's is some tight shizzums!! Not that it's giving me arm problems, but I don't have the cupping sensation I so crave. I'll have to admit though, BG's giving me some ridiculous spin on my serve. I'm thinking I need to go to a 17g or possibly string even looser. I'm also planning to hybrid and see where that takes me.
 
Pleasantly surprised!!!

I just an intense hitting session this evening with Big Ace 17g (lime) in one of my PDR's at 59lbs. I am having a tough time deciding if I want to go back to Topspin CyberPower. :?

My hitting partner is a strong NTRP 5.5 (former College player) and I am 4.5. My playing style is grinding topspin all courter. I hit with a full western and 1hbh. My hitting partner told me my shots were heavier and had more depth than with the CyberPower strung racquets.

Overall, I felt like I had more control and the ball didn't fly out as much. I had plenty of pop on flat serves, kick, and slice serves were a joy to hit. I could dial in my groundies and slice with ease.

I didn't have any arm or shoulder pain. I think I will continue to use it as a full string job.

I think I have found a replacement for my old Topspin PolyPolar.
 
Griff, I agree with you on the BA. I've got the BA 1.17 mains in my PDR and that's a great string in that stick. I don't know why, but I do like BA just a little better over CP.
 
BigGriff said:
Overall, I felt like I had more control and the ball didn't fly out as much. I had plenty of pop on flat serves, kick, and slice serves were a joy to hit. I could dial in my groundies and slice with ease.
I think I have found a replacement for my old Topspin PolyPolar.
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I agree. I also find too many balls flying out. a lot of power and less control.
 
wao said:
As the summer heat in Az. tops 100+ I would think that over the summer I might try the 54-55 range. The extreme has a stiffness of 68 so above that might cause some joint pain in this old body. I was amazed how much more bite I got from the 1.28 vs. 1.25. Just ordered a reel and gave a buddy that ownes a tennis shop near by my 1.25 set's that I had. He is going to order some for his shop.
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I had a MG Extreme in fall 2007 and could not handle the stiffness w/ any polys, but I was also stringin em at 55/58--now I wish I would have stayed wtih my current tensions of 52ish--much better. One setup I loved in the Extreme was a reverse setup PED put me on--Titan mains/Big Ace crosses!! Very nice feel, spin, comfort-but durability was not very good--but I was using 17g Titan mains and durablility would be better w/ 16g mains. I ended up w/ around 6 hrs before the mains snapped.
 
BA 1.22/Titan 1.30 @ 52/55

Had a chance to play some with a freshly strung stick setup w/ lime yellow BA 1.22 mains and Titan crosses @ my normal tension of 52/55. This was league match so I wasn't sure I was going to play with this stick, but hit w/ a teammate about 30 min before my match and really liked the feel, comfort, spin and pop I was getting--so I stuck with it my entire match and didn't even pick up the BG frames:) (for the record I won 1 and 5 singles). I am by no means giving up totally on BG--I will always have atleast one stick setup with BG hybrid, however, the BA/Titan is very, very nice. Not as much insane action as BG, but it is a better all around string, especially at the net. Volleys are much better than the BG, and I was at the net alot last night playing pretty agressive since my opponent was a fast as lightning backboard!!! Serves were nice and powerful and groundies contained plenty of spin and control. ALSO, the lime yellow/grey hybrid is SICK looking:twisted:

As for BG, it is really great for about the first 2-3 hrs when it is nice and fresh, but as others have mentioned and I am starting to realize, the latter stages of BG (hrs 4-10) are pretty different w/ less spin, feel, etc--it just seems to go dead:confused: Don't get me wrong, a freshly strung BG 1.28 is plain nasty, I'm just glad I will also have the BA as well!

ROBKAT--what tension(s) is your son using w/ the BG/PSGD 17g--I have thought about this as a cross.

GRIFF--I also have been a fan and previous user of Cyberpower, interesting to see you liked the BA over it (atleast for now). Guess your going to have to get the "Pro Supex" logo setup on your info section!!:)
 
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