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hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Too many guys to keep happy and keep involved. Then between NXT and a couple of the bigger 205ers they got even more. How do you keep them all in the mix and happy?

I honestly feel they got too much talent in the fold. Let some of them go and if they catch fire in AEW or ROH or wherever try to bring them back. I'm hoping AEW works because I think the business needs competition.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Too many guys to keep happy and keep involved. Then between NXT and a couple of the bigger 205ers they got even more. How do you keep them all in the mix and happy?

I honestly feel they got too much talent in the fold. Let some of them go and if they catch fire in AEW or ROH or wherever try to bring them back. I'm hoping AEW works because I think the business needs competition.
Lack of competition killed the wrestling star. :p So much talent but no real stars because they can afford to rinse and repeat everything leaving everybody on the same level. That might be a slight exaggeration but not really hyperbole. At least in the classic sense of what a star is.

I'm going to support AEW. haha Well, at least for the first show that is coming to ITV box office. Going to order it and see how it all looks.
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
So many promotions today. Many of the guys in WWE are 10-15 yr vets from Indy shows. Not sure that they fit the family friendly WWE.

But they sure fit in at NXT!
 
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Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
YAY :D It's finally happening. As usual with me today and my fandom, it's all about nostalgia.

''One of the most legendary lost matches will finally be widely distributed. A 1986 tryout match between Bret Hart and Tom Magee led to the latter being hired to WWF and thought to be the next big star. However, the wrestler wound up disappointing the front office in subsequent matches and fizzled out shortly thereafter.
WWE will air the match, alongside a documentary called “Holy Grail: The Search for WWE’s Most Infamous Lost Match” on the WWE Network directly following WWE RAW on Monday, May 13.

WWE.com posted the following, announcing the broadcast as well as providing some background about the match:

One of the greatest mysteries in sports-entertainment history has been found and you’ll be able to see it along with a documentary explaining the story on WWE Network after Raw on Monday.
On Dec. 6, 1986, Bret “Hit Man” Hart faced Tom Magee in an untelevised tryout match in Rochester, New York. After the bell sounded and Magee’s hand was raised, he was labeled the next Hulk Hogan, but since the bout was untelevised, footage became lost over time … until today.
VHS tape traders tried in vain to chase down the cassette of Hart vs. Magee for three decades to no avail, but it was recently discovered as part of “Hit Man’s” tape library and is available Monday after Raw on WWE Network. Check out this classic match and get the full story on how the tape was discovered, what happened to Tom Magee, and much more by watching Holy Grail: The Search for WWE’s Most Infamous Lost Match, streaming Monday after Raw.
Excited to finally check it out?''
 

Ronaldo

Talk Tennis Guru
YAY :D It's finally happening. As usual with me today and my fandom, it's all about nostalgia.

''One of the most legendary lost matches will finally be widely distributed. A 1986 tryout match between Bret Hart and Tom Magee led to the latter being hired to WWF and thought to be the next big star. However, the wrestler wound up disappointing the front office in subsequent matches and fizzled out shortly thereafter.
WWE will air the match, alongside a documentary called “Holy Grail: The Search for WWE’s Most Infamous Lost Match” on the WWE Network directly following WWE RAW on Monday, May 13.

WWE.com posted the following, announcing the broadcast as well as providing some background about the match:

One of the greatest mysteries in sports-entertainment history has been found and you’ll be able to see it along with a documentary explaining the story on WWE Network after Raw on Monday.
On Dec. 6, 1986, Bret “Hit Man” Hart faced Tom Magee in an untelevised tryout match in Rochester, New York. After the bell sounded and Magee’s hand was raised, he was labeled the next Hulk Hogan, but since the bout was untelevised, footage became lost over time … until today.
VHS tape traders tried in vain to chase down the cassette of Hart vs. Magee for three decades to no avail, but it was recently discovered as part of “Hit Man’s” tape library and is available Monday after Raw on WWE Network. Check out this classic match and get the full story on how the tape was discovered, what happened to Tom Magee, and much more by watching Holy Grail: The Search for WWE’s Most Infamous Lost Match, streaming Monday after Raw.
Excited to finally check it out?''
Does WWE have thee loser leaves town match in Memphis between Randy Savage v The King, Jerry Lawler?
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame

Nikki Cross is normal now
**In my most PO's Vince Voice"

DAMNIT.

She was so freaking good playing the lunatic. They way they injected her into the Gargano Alestair thinking in NXT made that story percolate for that much longer. Great character, great in ring worker, similar to Asuka in the looks department like sometimes she is hot, sometimes just cute, and other times kinda nasty. Super intriguing either way. There's another one they re gonna ruin. She will kill it in AEW :)
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Taker and GBerg no thanks.

Raw was good and for the most part made sense. Sami with the briefcase would be great.

Still on the fence about face miz.

Sane nikki cross no thanks. But being in cahoots with Alexa makes it seem OK for now.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Taker and GBerg no thanks.

Raw was good and for the most part made sense. Sami with the briefcase would be great.

Still on the fence about face miz.

Sane nikki cross no thanks. But being in cahoots with Alexa makes it seem OK for now.
Sami should definitely win :)
Im a Taker stan and a Zaddyberg stan, and was excited to see them both wrestle. But each other? Can't imagine how you can make that a quality match, that would have been difficult in 1999. They both need a smaller opponent. Taker/Styles or Taker/Elias/Rollins/Black would make more sense.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I was all in on taker back in the day. Bought a long black trench coat and everything.

Them to together = bad. Taker is just losing the battle with father time and I'm still waiting on a good Gberg match. He was an INDY darling before such a thing existed. Show up get your high spots in, leave, get paid. Story telling be damned.

Taker alestair could be really good. Alestair has those sorta dark undertones that would play nicely with the whole taker persona.
And if anyone could coax a good match outta GBerg I would put my money on Ricochet.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
I was all in on taker back in the day. Bought a long black trench coat and everything.

Them to together = bad. Taker is just losing the battle with father time and I'm still waiting on a good Gberg match. He was an INDY darling before such a thing existed. Show up get your high spots in, leave, get paid. Story telling be damned.

Taker alestair could be really good. Alestair has those sorta dark undertones that would play nicely with the whole taker persona.
And if anyone could coax a good match outta GBerg I would put my money on Ricochet.
Yeah Taker can go with the right opponent but they are killing him with this HHH/Cena/Goldberg stuff. Just give him someone remotely athletic, sheesh! lol. A match with Aleister would be gold. Or at least silver :p
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Pretty ho hum Smackdown. Matches were OK but didn't really build up MITB any. Did an early set up for an Andrade run with the IC belt (please do that WWE).

Until the end when Sami and KO demolished Kofi and Woods. Setting up Sami to win the case and have no idea who will cash it in on is a great play. Then Kofi fought them off and New Day stood tall in the ring. Old school psychology that meant he loses the belt at next PPV. I don't see that happening, but also wouldn't be that surprised if KO wins the belt so he can drop it to Roman in a few months.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
Good for AEW. Ill be curious to see how the stats they tend to show will work. Apparently they are supposed to keep a tally of Wins and Losses. And somehow track damage done and other things. Time will tell if that matters.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Good for AEW. Ill be curious to see how the stats they tend to show will work. Apparently they are supposed to keep a tally of Wins and Losses. And somehow track damage done and other things. Time will tell if that matters.
I'm doing NJPW on that game I play now. I could never pull a name out of the blue and give him a title match after he has lost majority of his matches. Of course, there can be exceptions. I know it is sports entertainment but the sports part, winners/losers record etc. WWE don't follow that philosophy and it hurts them.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
AEW got the TV Deal with TNT. you can watch PPV on Bleacher report live for 50 bucks, apparently cable companies will offer for 60.

I'm assuming that price comes down for the PPVs after dropping 10 a month on the WWE network all these years it will be tough for a lot of people to spend an extra couple hundred dollars a year to watch. They have two more event s scheduled in June and July also. 50 bucks a month wont cut it.

Since I don't have cable and I don't know the first thing about BR Live I still have to figure out how I can even get the AEW PPVs.
Does this BR Live have an Xbox app and I can order it through that?
If I have to jump through too many hoops I ain't gonna bother with it, but I would like to at least like get this first one to see what they do.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
It is £15 over here. Pretty much the standard price for PPV. Feels strange to be ordering a wrestling PPV. I was still so much of a WWE diehard back when TNA was starting etc. This other wrestling does not exist mode. Now I'm more willing to try and sample the other delights. :p
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Trying to get myself hyped for tonight like it is 2011 or something. What an awesome card it was.

Got my green groceries with me to up the ante.

I'm going with Drew McIntyre for the money in the bank win.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Flashback to Marc Mero returning back in 1997 with new gimmick. PowerSlam was not impressed.

''He came out, displaying the charisma you have come to expect from Michael Cole.''

PowerSlam magazine was life. (1991-2014) Non kayfabe and I enjoyed their humor. Internet killed the magazine star. I had them all.


Lacey taps. Booo.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Cash in!! Crowd on fire.

Charlotte wins the smackdown title from Becky and then the cash in. Bayley is the queen of smackdown. Becky is half the man she used to be and Lacey is wonderful. Scenes.
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
Entertaining segment from Elias leads to good old fashioned squash match.

I have to be cynical once tonight. Smart booking. :p

Styles vs Rollins. :love:
 

Poisoned Slice

Bionic Poster
I'm glad I gave WWE a chance. Don't know if I lightened up over the weekend or something. AEW turn next week. Excite. Back to being jaded tomorrow.

I hear that Samoa Joe and Rey Mysterio match was set to go longer. Joe suffered broken nose and they called audible to end it there and then. Joe looked like full scary movie villain with the blood. Post match was tasty.
 
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hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
I get Brock coming back, not a big fan of entering in the middle/end of the match though. I get him cashing in real quick on whatever show he wants to win a belt. Sorry Kofi its probably yours.
I know becky wasn't going to have both belts after it. My friends and I were talking and while we never mentioned Bayley we expected whoever won the MITB case to cash in and win after Beckys two matches.
Not sure where they go with Miz and Shane. Miz keeps beating the crap outta Shane and gets beat very cheaply. But he keeps losing what the end game?

Joe and Rey was perfect if it was supposed to go longer and they changed I think it was for the better. Build that thing up. Joe is one the best guys they got. Him and KO get the promo skills and the ring skills.
 

hollywood9826

Hall of Fame
NXT was pretty decent Saturday night.

Started off Street Profits vs Outliers (Moss and some Dan Matha guy) managed by some other guy that was TNA Straus or something. Matha is a big MFer and was pretty decent generating heat teams was bascailly put together to see what he can do. Profits won when the skinny guy attempted a cross body, matha caught him and the not skinny profit rolled him up and the ref counted three while both guy were pinning him. Weird ending but Matha got to complain that it took guys and fans booed him more. Again he is a big MFer. And the skinny street profit guy is the real deal. The not skinny street profit guy literally only has a job because of the skinny guy.

Next was Punishment Martinez vs Keith Lee. match was decent Keith tried a hurincana but didn't quite jump long enough and he landed on head kinda funny I htough he was hurt but they pressed on. Finsh came by both men exhausting themselves, Lee hit a headbutt and knocked himself out, matrinez KO'd fell on top of him to get the win. It was a pretty good match.

Bazler vs Catanzaro was next. Bazler did really good to carry that match, Kacy got a few pieces of offense in but is generally really bad. She is so freaking small the ropes do not move and her body makes no sound when hitting the ring. I bet she doesn't weigh 80 lbs. Bazler choked her out and held it long to get some cheap heat.

Kushida vs Gulak submission match was next. decent match kushida won. Weird having no pin fall attempts though.

Lorcan and Burch vs Oreilly and Strong. these guys work great together and the match was freaking awesome. Some late interruption casued a distraction and Orcan scored a cheap roll up. Terrible house show finish, felt like a tv match (more on his later).

Shirai and Laree vs Shafir a Duke were next Bazler in stree4t clothes was standing on ramp watching. match was going OK shira was set up for the moonsault on Duke and bazler puller out. sharia then moonsaulted to the outside on bazler. DQ was called brawling consumed outside with bazler and shirai mixing it in the crowd. Another TV style finish.

Triple threat for NA Title Velveteen vs Cole vs Riddle. riddle flings his slippers in the stands and the staff collect them up. Booooo lets the fans keep the shoes man. make some chepo original bros slippers the throw of into the crowd. Great match weird ending. Cole hit a couple superkicks on Riddle then shining wizard went for the cover dream dropped the elbow on both but then jumped over riddle to pin cole. Protecting riddle a little too much on that one. but the match was great and Velveteen is over AF.

Later found out they were taping a few of the matches for TV. Orcan/Burch vs Era. Kushida vs Gulak, and womes tag matches were taped. which explains the endings in the two matches to build up a fued.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
NXT was pretty decent Saturday night.

Started off Street Profits vs Outliers (Moss and some Dan Matha guy) managed by some other guy that was TNA Straus or something. Matha is a big MFer and was pretty decent generating heat teams was bascailly put together to see what he can do. Profits won when the skinny guy attempted a cross body, matha caught him and the not skinny profit rolled him up and the ref counted three while both guy were pinning him. Weird ending but Matha got to complain that it took guys and fans booed him more. Again he is a big MFer. And the skinny street profit guy is the real deal. The not skinny street profit guy literally only has a job because of the skinny guy.

Next was Punishment Martinez vs Keith Lee. match was decent Keith tried a hurincana but didn't quite jump long enough and he landed on head kinda funny I htough he was hurt but they pressed on. Finsh came by both men exhausting themselves, Lee hit a headbutt and knocked himself out, matrinez KO'd fell on top of him to get the win. It was a pretty good match.

Bazler vs Catanzaro was next. Bazler did really good to carry that match, Kacy got a few pieces of offense in but is generally really bad. She is so freaking small the ropes do not move and her body makes no sound when hitting the ring. I bet she doesn't weigh 80 lbs. Bazler choked her out and held it long to get some cheap heat.

Kushida vs Gulak submission match was next. decent match kushida won. Weird having no pin fall attempts though.

Lorcan and Burch vs Oreilly and Strong. these guys work great together and the match was freaking awesome. Some late interruption casued a distraction and Orcan scored a cheap roll up. Terrible house show finish, felt like a tv match (more on his later).

Shirai and Laree vs Shafir a Duke were next Bazler in stree4t clothes was standing on ramp watching. match was going OK shira was set up for the moonsault on Duke and bazler puller out. sharia then moonsaulted to the outside on bazler. DQ was called brawling consumed outside with bazler and shirai mixing it in the crowd. Another TV style finish.

Triple threat for NA Title Velveteen vs Cole vs Riddle. riddle flings his slippers in the stands and the staff collect them up. Booooo lets the fans keep the shoes man. make some chepo original bros slippers the throw of into the crowd. Great match weird ending. Cole hit a couple superkicks on Riddle then shining wizard went for the cover dream dropped the elbow on both but then jumped over riddle to pin cole. Protecting riddle a little too much on that one. but the match was great and Velveteen is over AF.

Later found out they were taping a few of the matches for TV. Orcan/Burch vs Era. Kushida vs Gulak, and womes tag matches were taped. which explains the endings in the two matches to build up a fued.
1. abt ur earlier post, yessss Joe is everything :)
2. Idk if im going to be able to contain myself watching Matt Riddle live o_O BRO!

 
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