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hollywood9826 said:
Didn't know about profightdb, that's sounds awesome. My buddy is more into the old stuff as well and is the main reason he pays for wwe network I'll def pass that onto him.

I used to watch all that stuff as well, but for some reason when the current product is stale I lose interest in all of it.
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Yep, if you visit profightfb it makes it worth it bc then you aren't just randomly playing stuff just to play it hoping it'll be good. I can look up Macho Man for instance and click on 1992 and then I know exactly what dates/events to go to to be able to see matches I know i haven't seen 8-B
 
Hitman said:
Roman Reigns at WM.
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Please no. Id rather have them let Fiend win it back, and then just have competitive matches instead of every match being a boring squash fest.

I had been done with the Fiend, but for WWE to spend all the time, resources, and have him squash everyone under the sun to lose to Goldberg? In a way it resets the Fiend and lets him have matches with other guys that don't have to be squashes anymore.
Gberg also might have lost a tooth. He puts himself and his opponent in danger everytime he steps into the ring, but that also creates intrigue.

But at least we know 4 spears and half a jackhammer are greater than 12 stomps. What combination of Roman spears and superman punches would it take to beat the Fiend? I think 1 GBerg spear is like 1.8 Roman spears, and .5 jackhammers are like 5 superman punches. If my math is correct would Roman would need 8 spears and 3 superman punches to beat the Fiend.

Taker made an appearance and we got new tag champs. Also had another womens match, which is kind of a big deal. As far as the Saudi shows go this one wasnt too bad.

Feel sorry Richochet got fed to the beast just to make Brock look that much stronger and Drew looks that much stronger when he wins the belt. Brock and Richochet could have one heck of a match under different circumstances.
 
hollywood9826 said:
Please no. Id rather have them let Fiend win it back, and then just have competitive matches instead of every match being a boring squash fest.

I had been done with the Fiend, but for WWE to spend all the time, resources, and have him squash everyone under the sun to lose to Goldberg? In a way it resets the Fiend and lets him have matches with other guys that don't have to be squashes anymore.
Gberg also might have lost a tooth. He puts himself and his opponent in danger everytime he steps into the ring, but that also creates intrigue.

But at least we know 4 spears and half a jackhammer are greater than 12 stomps. What combination of Roman spears and superman punches would it take to beat the Fiend? I think 1 GBerg spear is like 1.8 Roman spears, and .5 jackhammers are like 5 superman punches. If my math is correct would Roman would need 8 spears and 3 superman punches to beat the Fiend.

Taker made an appearance and we got new tag champs. Also had another womens match, which is kind of a big deal. As far as the Saudi shows go this one wasnt too bad.

Feel sorry Richochet got fed to the beast just to make Brock look that much stronger and Drew looks that much stronger when he wins the belt. Brock and Richochet could have one heck of a match under different circumstances.
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The potential match ups are simple, Goldberg either against Cena or Reigns. They will likely go with Reigns, so they have the spear v spear match, and have Cena put over The Fiend that event also. Undertaker v AJ Styles is happening, though the booking was horrible.
 
Hitman said:
The potential match ups are simple, Goldberg either against Cena or Reigns. They will likely go with Reigns, so they have the spear v spear match, and have Cena put over The Fiend that event also. Undertaker v AJ Styles is happening, though the booking was horrible.
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That means Roman wins the belt again and I have to cancel my network subscription.
What can Cena do to put over the Fiend? An AA is already only half a jackhammer so what combination of 5 knuckleshuffles (5KSs) jumping shoulder butts (JSBs) and AAs will it take to beat the fiend?

Taker vs Styles is the beat chance Taker has to put on a good match. What a terrible set up though.
 
hollywood9826 said:
That means Roman wins the belt again and I have to cancel my network subscription.
What can Cena do to put over the Fiend? An AA is already only half a jackhammer so what combination of 5 knuckleshuffles (5KSs) jumping shoulder butts (JSBs) and AAs will it take to beat the fiend?

Taker vs Styles is the beat chance Taker has to put on a good match. What a terrible set up though.
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Yes, the idea all along was to put the belt back on Reigns. Cena said he wants to put more talent over, so as the rumors rise of him facing The Fiend, it is likely he will do the job to him.
 
hollywood9826 said:
Please no. Id rather have them let Fiend win it back, and then just have competitive matches instead of every match being a boring squash fest.

I had been done with the Fiend, but for WWE to spend all the time, resources, and have him squash everyone under the sun to lose to Goldberg? In a way it resets the Fiend and lets him have matches with other guys that don't have to be squashes anymore.
Gberg also might have lost a tooth. He puts himself and his opponent in danger everytime he steps into the ring, but that also creates intrigue.

But at least we know 4 spears and half a jackhammer are greater than 12 stomps. What combination of Roman spears and superman punches would it take to beat the Fiend? I think 1 GBerg spear is like 1.8 Roman spears, and .5 jackhammers are like 5 superman punches. If my math is correct would Roman would need 8 spears and 3 superman punches to beat the Fiend.

Taker made an appearance and we got new tag champs. Also had another womens match, which is kind of a big deal. As far as the Saudi shows go this one wasnt too bad.

Feel sorry Richochet got fed to the beast just to make Brock look that much stronger and Drew looks that much stronger when he wins the belt. Brock and Richochet could have one heck of a match under different circumstances.
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Toothless Aggression!
 
Randy Orton would be the current mvp. His mind is in that place again.

I see Moxley won the AEW title.

I guess some Fiend fanboys think Cena owes him one since Cena killed all his momentum way back when at Wrestlemania. But now that you look in hindsight and how Bray has gone since then. Blaming Cena would get launched out of court, your honour. I'm glad Cena will be at Wrestlemania in a real match this year. Let's hope they can make it a good one. Knowing Fiend history, I would doubt it. Cena being involved should make it at least watchable. Wow, it sounds like I'm being hard on Fiend. I'm not, you all know yourself about his ability to have crap matches.
 
hollywood9826 said:
That means Roman wins the belt again and I have to cancel my network subscription.
What can Cena do to put over the Fiend? An AA is already only half a jackhammer so what combination of 5 knuckleshuffles (5KSs) jumping shoulder butts (JSBs) and AAs will it take to beat the fiend?

Taker vs Styles is the beat chance Taker has to put on a good match. What a terrible set up though.
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Styles is on a more noticeable decline now. Not doubting that it could be a good match but I'm not all that hyped for it. Do agree that this would be the best chance to get a good match out of the Undertaker. Let's hope.
 
hollywood9826 said:
Please no. Id rather have them let Fiend win it back, and then just have competitive matches instead of every match being a boring squash fest.

I had been done with the Fiend, but for WWE to spend all the time, resources, and have him squash everyone under the sun to lose to Goldberg? In a way it resets the Fiend and lets him have matches with other guys that don't have to be squashes anymore.
Gberg also might have lost a tooth. He puts himself and his opponent in danger everytime he steps into the ring, but that also creates intrigue.

But at least we know 4 spears and half a jackhammer are greater than 12 stomps. What combination of Roman spears and superman punches would it take to beat the Fiend? I think 1 GBerg spear is like 1.8 Roman spears, and .5 jackhammers are like 5 superman punches. If my math is correct would Roman would need 8 spears and 3 superman punches to beat the Fiend.

Taker made an appearance and we got new tag champs. Also had another womens match, which is kind of a big deal. As far as the Saudi shows go this one wasnt too bad.

Feel sorry Richochet got fed to the beast just to make Brock look that much stronger and Drew looks that much stronger when he wins the belt. Brock and Richochet could have one heck of a match under different circumstances.
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I'm just laughing now because I listened to Big Dave review the show. Then he gets to start talking about Ricochet in WWE.


''He really needs to get out of there right now. ''
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I thinks the same set of guys that are doing all the videos in some store as well. Overall they ain't bad for what I am assuming are just fans.
 
I have zero hopes Cena vs Fiend will be any good. Its comical the amount of people upset they put the strap on GBerg. One article flat out said the powers that be feel that all the momentum was gone from the Fiend and they had to do it save the mania title match. I agree that the Fiend was done, but they should have seen that coming from a mile away and not had to do a last second GBerg squash to try to save the mania match. Fiend/Bray/Husky just has a track record of not delivering on the biggest stages. In the Fiends case it had more to do with booking squash matches then I think the guys actual ability to have a match.

Big surprise Moxley won the AEW belt. WWE has been losing my attention to the point where I might just cancel network regardless after mania. AEW has done nothing to steal me away either. Might just be another phase where I need to take a break from wrestling.

Although I am seriously considering in a month when I finish college to improve my fitness and start training to have some matches. I'm getting ready to turn 40 in April and what better way to combat a midlife crisis. Maybe if actual do it I wont be so critical of the product and be able to enjoy it more.
 
Another series of dark side of the ring will be coming. One of the episodes will be 2 parts. They are guessing it will be the Benoit tragedy. Here are the episodes. ''Worlds strongest man'' Dino Bravo is the most interesting to me.

  • Brawl For All
  • The Benoit Tragedy
  • Dino Bravo
  • New Jack
  • Herb Abrams
  • Owen Hart
 
Saudi arabia is putting on a nice event, great stage and i like those pillars around the ring

Great first match, rtruth is a legend. Always liked him on diva's, guy is really funny
 
Truth is probably an HoFer. They don't push black that much to begin with and he has stood the test of time. And its not like the bar is set real high for HoF anyway (cough...Koko...cough).

Richochet is getting buried. The Rowan cage reveal was almost as bad as the Henry and Young hand baby.

I feel like raw did some good things. The Heyman, Lesnar, Drew segment was great. The stuff with Orton and Phoenix was also great. AJ using Takers folded arms pin was good.

I don't like Street Profits, but to build the KO Seth feud having KO screw Seth and Murphy out of the tag belts makes sense. And the Skinny Street profit guy is good enough so they are not a total waste of Air Time.
I also kinda like how they are having real matches for 24/7 title, but the comedy aspect of the random scenes was also entertaining.
 
hollywood9826 said:
Truth is probably an HoFer. They don't push black that much to begin with and he has stood the test of time. And its not like the bar is set real high for HoF anyway (cough...Koko...cough).

Richochet is getting buried. The Rowan cage reveal was almost as bad as the Henry and Young hand baby.

I feel like raw did some good things. The Heyman, Lesnar, Drew segment was great. The stuff with Orton and Phoenix was also great. AJ using Takers folded arms pin was good.

I don't like Street Profits, but to build the KO Seth feud having KO screw Seth and Murphy out of the tag belts makes sense. And the Skinny Street profit guy is good enough so they are not a total waste of Air Time.
I also kinda like how they are having real matches for 24/7 title, but the comedy aspect of the random scenes was also entertaining.
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Was on the post wrestling podcast for their raw review. The co-host (Wai Ting) was so hyped for the Randy Orton promo. Calling it the best he has heard so far this year and really putting over the performances from both of them, was a bit lost for words to describe Orton's greatness. Had to watch it after that. It all checks out. I enjoyed it. Orton is always capable of being on fire. His match with Edge might be the one I'm caring for the most and Edge hasn't even been around.

Had a look at AJ vs Black as well. Quite interesting. Just because of how Black has been booked so far. I wouldn't expect him to beat AJ, although an Undertaker bell distraction can always come into play. Wouldn't say a loss hurts AJ going into it or anything. I'm long past the technical data stage of wrestling fandom. :p
 
Poisoned Slice said:
Was on the post wrestling podcast for their raw review. The co-host (Wai Ting) was so hyped for the Randy Orton promo. Calling it the best he has heard so far this year and really putting over the performances from both of them, was a bit lost for words to describe Orton's greatness. Had to watch it after that. It all checks out. I enjoyed it. Orton is always capable of being on fire. His match with Edge might be the one I'm caring for the most and Edge hasn't even been around.

Had a look at AJ vs Black as well. Quite interesting. Just because of how Black has been booked so far. I wouldn't expect him to beat AJ, although an Undertaker bell distraction can always come into play. Wouldn't say a loss hurts AJ going into it or anything. I'm long past the technical data stage of wrestling fandom. :p
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I like that term technical data. Not sure anyone cares about that. AEW said they were going to make data available and all that stuff. What has came of that?

Alestair you would assume still has to look strong so Anderson and Gallows would probably eat some black masses before. AJ it don't matter he could lose 10 matches in a row and after one springboard 450 splash and everyone is back on board.

I think Ricochet is the same despite essentially getting squashed into oblivion since the rumble he could beta Andrade next week for the US belt and it would be like nothing ever happened. Some guys need the hype and build up to stay relevant singles guys, but I think Ricochets talent transcends that.
 
JBL is latest inductee into HoF. Some were speculating that it would be APA. But having JBL solo is a good play, its let Ron give the induction speech and leaves open the possibility for APA.

I usually don't got too worked up about HoF stuff, because its simply who they like or who has a good rehab story for the wellness policy. But to induct the NWO without Bischoff but include XPac is dumb. This not a knock on XPac work, because at time I enjoyed watching him, but he just don't feel like hes NWO to me.

If you were ask me who the NWO members were and to rank them in importance it would be. I dont count NWO Sting despite him being the 4th or 5th longest tenured member

Hollywood Hogan
Kevin Nash
Scott Hall
Eric Bischoff
Viscous and Delicious Buff Bagwell & Scott Norton
The Giant
Vincent
XPac
Konnan
Mrs. Elizabeth (She lied about a GBerg sexual assault to get him escorted out of the building, not something I think they would do today)
After that it really just the part timers.
 
hollywood9826 said:
JBL is latest inductee into HoF. Some were speculating that it would be APA. But having JBL solo is a good play, its let Ron give the induction speech and leaves open the possibility for APA.

I usually don't got too worked up about HoF stuff, because its simply who they like or who has a good rehab story for the wellness policy. But to induct the NWO without Bischoff but include XPac is dumb. This not a knock on XPac work, because at time I enjoyed watching him, but he just don't feel like hes NWO to me.

If you were ask me who the NWO members were and to rank them in importance it would be. I dont count NWO Sting despite him being the 4th or 5th longest tenured member

Hollywood Hogan
Kevin Nash
Scott Hall
Eric Bischoff
Viscous and Delicious Buff Bagwell & Scott Norton
The Giant
Vincent
XPac
Konnan
Mrs. Elizabeth (She lied about a GBerg sexual assault to get him escorted out of the building, not something I think they would do today)
After that it really just the part timers.
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Crazy how it all worked out for Xpac. Imagine if WCW did not fire him. Yeah, 20+ years later thoughts, but who does Tripper get to be a member of DX? Recruiting him first was a key part of that famous segment on Raw after Wrestlemania 14. The segment to show that Triple could do it without Shawn Michaels. Xpac was also hyped after Hogan said he couldn't cut the mustard, Jack. All really fell into place perfectly for them to get the New Age Outlaws in later on in the show. I was so hyped for Xpac. lol
 
Bazler better win this belt at mania, but I'm afraid its nothing but another win for Becky. They have basically destroyed the entire Raw women's division in an attempt to keep Becky looking strong and not boring. If Bazler cant beat her who on the Horizon can? Can Charlotte lose to Rhea and still feel worthy of a title shot? Maybe Rhea can lose and come over and be a threat to Becky. That's the main reason I think Bazler win art mania then might lose by SummerSlam to Becky again.

Overall chamber was pretty good. Bryan vs Gulak was a great freaking match to the surprise of no one. And the street profits had a crappy match to the surprise of no one. The bigger street profit guy is just not good. He is not big enough to be the Stevie Ray power guy type to go opposite the skinny guy like so many good tag teams. But he is also not good enough by himself to transcend the fact that he is not big enough. Profits are the champs so get used to that. I knew Rollins and Murphy wouldn't last long with the belts just because Rollins has other fish to fry.

New IC champ as well, kinda shocked at who it was and how it went down though. But Im not mad at it either, Braun as champ was fine as well and I'm sure he may get it back soon (maybe at mania even) probably in a cage or cell match.
 
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