Problem: Repeated cross strings

bobtodd

Rookie
New to stringing and I repeated the 2nd and 3rd cross strings from the head. Question: Should I not worry about it and just play until it needs restrung? or Cut it out and restring? Thanks for any suggestions.

Volkl Cyclone Tour Mains/IsoSpeed Axon Multi 16 crosses
 
likely to have no impact on playability.
may be a problem if you play a tournament and the opponent raises it as a (legitimate) issue.
 
you put 2 strings through the same hole on both the 2nd and 3rd crosses?

I don't even know how that mistake could be made without being extremely drunk :P
 
Not a big deal if not used in ITF or USTA play. I assume that you strung the 2nd and 3rd crosses w/o any weaving. Just check the string above and go the other way next time.
 
Thanks, I'll use it until it breaks. FYI, it was just a weaving issue not putting the same string in the same grommet. I need better lighting in the garage.
 
If you mean you missed a weave (2nd and 3rd cross follow the same over/under pattern) then the racquet is no longer legal (for USTA/competitive play). It'll probably have little/no effect on playability as others have said.
 
Sounds to me like the second and third crosses are ran in the same. The first and fourth are ran the same and the second and third are the same. I would redo it. If one of your prospective clients see it not good. If it is a client's racket even worse.
 
Thanks, I'll use it until it breaks. FYI, it was just a weaving issue not putting the same string in the same grommet. I need better lighting in the garage.

With experience, you would FEEL that mis-weave happening without needing to SEE it. You could miss a weave in the corner and not notice, but not an entire row. It would be easy to feel the lack of resistance to the weave and the ease with which the string would slide after it was installed.

Making a mistake is one thing...finishing a string job with a mistake in it is entirely different.

Just for personal use, I'd leave it...at least until you couldn't sleep at night because of it ;)
 
With experience, you would FEEL that mis-weave happening without needing to SEE it. You could miss a weave in the corner and not notice, but not an entire row. It would be easy to feel the lack of resistance to the weave and the ease with which the string would slide after it was installed.

Making a mistake is one thing...finishing a string job with a mistake in it is entirely different.

Just for personal use, I'd leave it...at least until you couldn't sleep at night because of it ;)

I used it tonight and it was fine. However, I need to change the tension set-up so I will probably restring it this weekend. I just started stringing and I'm only stringing my racquets until I get more efficient and no mistakes. Thanks for the positive input.
 
Ahh I understand now. :)


I have only ever had 1 string job where I did a misweave, a double misweave actually which is why I didn't catch it at the end of the row, and I just played with it until I broke the strings.

I think after you misweave one you watch your work more closely and it usually isn't a problem again.
 
My first try, I forgot to weave all of the cross strings. Still, it took me a couple of hours on my X-2, but thought to myself that stringing was so simple...LOL
 
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It was my first try, and I guess I just got really excited and since you don't weave the mains, just did the crosses the same way. Afterwards, something just didn't look and feel right.
 
weave one ahead, will help.

also, start over or under everytime for crosses on outer mains (pick one), i try to start "under" so the last grommet insert is from "over" (easier, IMO).

Chances are you won't miss two weaves and the over/under is a quick self-check as you go.
 
weave one ahead, will help.

also, start over or under everytime for crosses on outer mains (pick one), i try to start "under" so the last grommet insert is from "over" (easier, IMO).

Chances are you won't miss two weaves and the over/under is a quick self-check as you go.

That could have been the cause of (or contributed to) the OP's trouble. If you always start under (or over) and there are skips it won't work. And whether you end up with the last cross going over the last main or not depends on the skips and whether or not you're using an ATW pattern.

EDIT: Imagine what will happen if you have a 16x19 racket and you're stringing with an ATW pattern and you start over 6RM in the throat and start over 6LM at the head.
 
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That could have been the cause of (or contributed to) the OP's trouble. If you always start under (or over) and there are skips it won't work. And whether you end up with the last cross going over the last main or not depends on the skips and whether or not you're using an ATW pattern.

EDIT: Imagine what will happen if you have a 16x19 racket and you're stringing with an ATW pattern and you start over 6RM in the throat and start over 6LM at the head.

Yeah, when one is new to stringing, blindly following rules of thumb is a bad thing. While tbuggle did make the (subtle) distinction of "on the outer mains," this only truly makes sense when you've either sat and thought about the process, or have made mistakes like OP did following blind rules of thumb.

It's hard to realize that there's a gap that needs to be closed (in terms of knowledge) once you've bridged the gap, though. For instance, taking the advice at face value, how the heck do you GET to the outermost main? There's generally 2-3 strings that AREN'T on the outside mains prior to getting there. How do you choose/decide to weave those mains? Simplest rule is to just check the previous string IMO, works in all situations, which is important to a new stringer.
 
Yes DD I would agree with that, sometimes you go over the outer main string and sometimes you go under the outer main string so that you end up with the last cross going over the over the last main which more often than not is not the outermost string. It all depends on the pattern and the skips and it only makes sense when you sit and think about what you are going to be doing.
 
right on fellas, my bad. i did generalize based on my pea brain.

but i did say OUTER MAINS!!!

Don't worry, I saw it ;) I just know from trying to teach others that these rules of thumb are only useful when the entire picture is understood.

Side note: never take stringing lessons from me, it takes forever to get anything done.
 
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