I've seen pagoo post quite a bit. I know what I'm talking about.
Now lets take a look at what actually pagoo posted vs what you quoted shall we ?
1. pagoo's post in Wim 16 SF :
you quoted :
This was one of the, if not the lowest points for Fed from when he won Wim 03.
With an injury filled season. His post was perfectly and I repeat perfectly justified.
2. pagoo's post in Jun 18th :
what you quoted :
that's a flat out misrepresentation of his actual post.
The thread name was : federers-body-parts-are-breaking-down-one-after-the-other."
pagoo's statement was again perfectly fine and justified.
3. the 3rd one :
this one you quoted fully.
AO 2016 SF vs djoko.
I'll agree this one was not justified. Given he was just flat out outplayed by djoko on his pet slam and it was more a case of coming out rusty in that semi vs djoko in the 1st 2 sets.
but probably the hangover from the previous 3 losses in imp. matches - Wim F, USO F and YEC F where he under-performed mentally vs djoko.
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you've made some decent posts, but some of your posts are going too far, IMO. So haven't really come to a conclusion there.
calling pagoo a fair-weather fan because of those posts isn't hyperbole, its flat out wrong.
and as far as your question goes (And what would you call supporting someone through their adversity?), the answer is : either a good fan or a fanatic
It isn’t very complicated, and you really need to listen to yourself.
His posts, and other people’s posts, where civil and expressed without malice and mud-slinging, are no less or more relevant than anybody else’s posts.
Is this really so difficult and complicated a standard to aspire to?
In a thread on clay, where some people want/think a player should do x or y, it should be fine to explore the subject. Trace it back to its origins and try to see where this usually gets out of hand.
Post Script
I should mention that I’m no different to you, and anyone else, in that I have my reasons for getting on the internet, and specifically a place like here. And my reasoning would be to discuss tennis, and what’s possible in tennis.
Conversations that indulge me in that pursuit are of more interest, but how many have even been allowed to flourish before someone rapidly comes along and cuts them short? Is there even one exchange here that explores what Federer is doing, or trying to do, and if that can work on clay?
So yep, I follow Federer not necessarily because he wins, but because to me he’s a unique sort of tennis prodigy, and has an extremely unique mindset in terms of what he believes he can do. I also like the arc of his career, in particular the lean years and how he continued to find the motivation to pick himself up.
The people that are also interested in such things, and facets of the game, those are the ones I would engage with organically.
I really don’t need for more people to tell me how awesome and great Federer is, I already know this. I don’t pat myself on the back each time he wins something.
I find more meaning and insight into personal growth in his losses, and how he responds to them.
)) is a fan that stands behind their player even when they disagree with their actions or when they have bad results. Hope you play RG Fedr. I really do. I'm still behind you if you don't.
Not you. Was 2014-2016 your best years as a Federer fan?
